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Sorry about the camera work, but it was a great evening sail. We dropped
the anchor in a small cove at 9:57 PM. Spent a beautiful night under the
stars.

Ol' Thom, the ending of this video is for you
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-cdn9HrU-BA

Scout



Nice... you might want to consider stowing the fenders, rather than
having them hanging. Also, the lazy sheet should probably be eased a bit
more, as it might distort the clew.

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Jon (and Joe)
Other than aesthetics, is there any practical value to stowing the fenders
onboard? I know this doesn't look as nice, but I hate to give up any space
onboard for them. I could leave them permanently tied to the dock
(floating). I am essentially lazy when it comes to the small stuff, but, I
am always willing to listen to good advice!

It's both an asthetic issue and a practical issue. Asthetically, it makes
you look like a lubber. :-) Practically, they're easy to lose when hanging.

It looks like you used a clove hitch (with extra turns) or possibly I can't
see the round turn with the two half hitches. Clove hitches can come undone
fairly easily.

Also, are you saying I should let the mainsail carry the boom? I haven't

No... I was talking about the jib sheets... specifically the sheet not under
load. I think lazy jacks were a boon to sailors who sail short-handed. I
prefer the Dutchman system, but either serve a useful purpose. It's not
unusual for Lazy Jacks to foul or snag battens when the sail is raised.
Coming down, they usually work fine.

actually tried that yet; I adjusted the lazy jacks to lift the boom enough
to clear the dodger. I've never used lazy jacks before; I do like them and
the roller furler too since I often sail shorthanded. Neal mentioned the
lazy jacks fouling the sail and I can see some contact there, although it
doesn't seem to have affected performance in any significant way. If I
have to buy a new mainsail sooner than later, I guess I can live with
that, but I doubt it.
Also, I can see getting used to adjusting the jib will take some practice.
It just doesn't look right, although the sails were full and according to
the gps, we hit 6.8 mph later that same night with 15 mph winds. The jib
sheets got tangled a bit. And, I don't quite have the hang of using the
self-tailing winches yet (it seems easier to pull the jib sheets by hand
than it is to crank the winch (sharing one handle).
Scout

I have self-tailers, but only use them if I have crew or I know I'm not
going to do much tacking/jibing. I only use a winch handle when my or my
crew's timing is off or it's a big boat and we need to jibe in high winds.
Remember, you can always get the helmsman to head up briefly to help you
trim in a sheet.




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No... I was talking about the jib sheets... specifically the sheet not
under load. I think lazy jacks were a boon to sailors who sail
short-handed. I prefer the Dutchman system, but either serve a useful
purpose. It's not unusual for Lazy Jacks to foul or snag battens when the
sail is raised. Coming down, they usually work fine.

ahh, thanks Jon, now I see what you mean.

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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No... I was talking about the jib sheets... specifically the sheet not
under load. I think lazy jacks were a boon to sailors who sail
short-handed. I prefer the Dutchman system, but either serve a useful
purpose. It's not unusual for Lazy Jacks to foul or snag battens when the
sail is raised. Coming down, they usually work fine.

Jon and Scotty,
My jib sheets run through a block on an adjustable runner. Under what
conditions would I adjust the block forward and when would I set it at the
furthest aft setpoint?

Also, I saw what you mean about the lazy jacks snagging the battens with the
very first raise of the mainsail.
Scout

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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No... I was talking about the jib sheets... specifically the sheet not
under load. I think lazy jacks were a boon to sailors who sail
short-handed. I prefer the Dutchman system, but either serve a useful
purpose. It's not unusual for Lazy Jacks to foul or snag battens when the
sail is raised. Coming down, they usually work fine.

Jon and Scotty,
My jib sheets run through a block on an adjustable runner. Under what
conditions would I adjust the block forward and when would I set it at the
furthest aft setpoint?

Typically, the bigger the jib, the further back the fairlead. You want the
sheet to "point" at the middle of the luff of the sail. In lighter wind or
sailing downwind (this is a nuance adjustment in my opinion and sometimes
not worth the effort), you can move the fairlead forward a small amount to
increase the twist of the jib.


Also, I saw what you mean about the lazy jacks snagging the battens with
the very first raise of the mainsail.
Scout

Yeah, they're great for capturing the sail on the way down. Going up, you
have to experiment with adjusting them to get it right. I've never been able
to get them to the point of never fouling the battens, and I didn't want to
hassle with it if I'm by myself.


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I have self-tailers, but only use them if I have crew or
I know I'm not
going to do much tacking/jibing.

Huh? Why?

I only use a winch handle when my or my
crew's timing is off or it's a big boat and we need to
jibe in high winds.
Remember, you can always get the helmsman to head up
briefly to help you
trim in a sheet.

Why?


SV

"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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I have self-tailers, but only use them if I have crew or
I know I'm not
going to do much tacking/jibing.

Huh? Why?

Mostly because it's easier to not have to get the sheet in the self-tailer.
It's a lot easier to just put the line on a cleat just behind the winch.

I only use a winch handle when my or my
crew's timing is off or it's a big boat and we need to
jibe in high winds.
Remember, you can always get the helmsman to head up
briefly to help you
trim in a sheet.

Why?

Ego.


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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Mostly because it's easier to not have to get the sheet in
the self-tailer.
It's a lot easier to just put the line on a cleat just
behind the winch.


Wha? What kind of STs do you have? Before I make ready to
come about, I wrap the lazy sheet around the winch body and
through the self tailing part. How hard is that?

SBV

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Mostly because it's easier to not have to get the sheet in
the self-tailer.
It's a lot easier to just put the line on a cleat just
behind the winch.


Wha? What kind of STs do you have? Before I make ready to
come about, I wrap the lazy sheet around the winch body and
through the self tailing part. How hard is that?

SBV




Using a cleat is easier for me. For one thing, it's closer to the helm. And,
I don't have to unwrap it. I don't have a full cleat hitch on the cleat, so
I can do it with one quick motion.

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