On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:40:52 -0700, Joe
wrote:



Loads attached to your bow limit 99% of your control to the
tow,,unless you have flanking rudders or cort nozzles, and again never
seen a sea-tow boat up close but I doubt it.


Just a guess.

Well it was as good as ...if not better than Jon's guess..

The incidents of runaways I've seen they waited for a tight circling
boat to run out of gas, or came alongside and a braveheart jumped
aboard and killed the motor.
I never even heard of prop tangling until you mentioned it, but it
seems like a good idea, because it's hand-off.
Got no idea how to best do it, but tying to a runaway just doesn't
seem like a good idea.
Probably nobody has done this twice, and it might be an on-the-spot
call how to handle it.
I just googled a bit and watched this. Pretty cool.
www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwWaALdeuLM
So maybe the best bet is to call this kid to catch it.

--Vic

On Jul 12, 9:18 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:40:52 -0700, Joe
wrote:

Loads attached to your bow limit 99% of your control to the
tow,,unless you have flanking rudders or cort nozzles, and again never
seen a sea-tow boat up close but I doubt it.

Just a guess.

Well it was as good as ...if not better than Jon's guess..

The incidents of runaways I've seen they waited for a tight circling
boat to run out of gas, or came alongside and a braveheart jumped
aboard and killed the motor.
I never even heard of prop tangling until you mentioned it, but it
seems like a good idea, because it's hand-off.
Got no idea how to best do it, but tying to a runaway just doesn't
seem like a good idea.
Probably nobody has done this twice, and it might be an on-the-spot
call how to handle it.
I just googled a bit and watched this. Pretty cool.www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwWaALdeuLM
So maybe the best bet is to call this kid to catch it.

--Vic

Had the helsman of the seatow boat turned away from the circling boat
instead of trying to go with it he would have been fine, taking the
load directly aft and keeping it there. Watch it again and you see he
starts to then decides to try to get alongside...big mistake as he did
not have any slack , moving the load directly abeam causing the boat
to be tripped.

Good story on You Tube.

Joe

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On Jul 12, 9:18 pm, Vic Smith wrote:
On Thu, 12 Jul 2007 14:40:52 -0700, Joe
wrote:

Loads attached to your bow limit 99% of your control to the
tow,,unless you have flanking rudders or cort nozzles, and again never
seen a sea-tow boat up close but I doubt it.

Just a guess.

Well it was as good as ...if not better than Jon's guess..

The incidents of runaways I've seen they waited for a tight circling
boat to run out of gas, or came alongside and a braveheart jumped
aboard and killed the motor.
I never even heard of prop tangling until you mentioned it, but it
seems like a good idea, because it's hand-off.
Got no idea how to best do it, but tying to a runaway just doesn't
seem like a good idea.
Probably nobody has done this twice, and it might be an on-the-spot
call how to handle it.
I just googled a bit and watched this. Pretty
cool.www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwWaALdeuLM
So maybe the best bet is to call this kid to catch it.

--Vic

Had the helsman of the seatow boat turned away from the circling boat
instead of trying to go with it he would have been fine, taking the
load directly aft and keeping it there. Watch it again and you see he
starts to then decides to try to get alongside...big mistake as he did
not have any slack , moving the load directly abeam causing the boat
to be tripped.

Good story on You Tube.

Joe



I like the idea of snagging the prop... seems like that would just about do
it.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:41:48 -0000, Joe
wrote:



Had the helsman of the seatow boat turned away from the circling boat
instead of trying to go with it he would have been fine, taking the
load directly aft and keeping it there. Watch it again and you see he
starts to then decides to try to get alongside...big mistake as he did
not have any slack , moving the load directly abeam causing the boat
to be tripped.

I watched it again a few times, and it's hard to tell. Might be they
had made a number of failed passes and he thought they failed again
and was coming around for another pass. Then the slack came out
and pulled the stern back, which made the bow go opposite before
he turtled. Tricky. These guys were amateur onlookers who did a good
deed. None of them were wearing a PFD as far as I can see.
I didn't hear any sound on that link.

--Vic

On Jul 12, 11:27 pm, Vic Smith
wrote:
On Fri, 13 Jul 2007 02:41:48 -0000, Joe
wrote:



Had the helsman of the seatowboatturned away from the circlingboat
instead of trying to go with it he would have been fine, taking the
load directly aft and keeping it there. Watch it again and you see he
starts to then decides to try to get alongside...big mistake as he did
not have any slack , moving the load directly abeam causing theboat
to be tripped.

I watched it again a few times, and it's hard to tell. Might be they
had made a number of failed passes and he thought they failed again
and was coming around for another pass. Then the slack came out
and pulled the stern back, which made the bow go opposite before
he turtled. Tricky. These guys were amateur onlookers who did a good
deed. None of them were wearing a PFD as far as I can see.
I didn't hear any sound on that link.

--Vic

I hope this guy of the runaway boat gets jail time, perhaps even
death. Yet he had a set court date to July 19th but apparently DEP is
still under the investigation of what happened. It's obviously not
that hard to tell what happened here just by looking at the video and
of the aftermath. However in any case, this guy should be punished
for what he has done.

~Jon T.