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"Capt. Rob" wrote:

The Drivesaver is not meant to protect your shaft, it protects the
transmision and engine. Once again something you may have heard of
but
know nothing about.

Wrong agaiin, Martin. I spoke to the folks at Drivesaver

Sure you did Bob, whatever you say Bob....


Ignorance is reversable, but stupidity, alas is forever.

Cheers
Marty

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* Capt. Rob wrote, On 7/11/2007 9:01 AM:
You keep making this claim, but the fact is the average wind in your
area is stronger than most parts of the country.



Jeff, with all due respect, are you claiming that the LIS has higher
winds during the sailing season? Average winds might be high if you
count January and February, but the July August period can be
downright dead.

Yes, I'm claiming that. Specifically, the wind measured a La Guardia
a few miles from your slip is near the top of the list for sailing
areas near a major city, even for July and August. Boston is actually
at the top of the list. You have cited the LGA wind as being
representative of your area.

http://lwf.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/...d/avgwind.html

This has been a good year so far, but I have friends
who went to the Jersey Shore because winds here were too light for
their Tartan 37 and Pearson Wanderer.

The wind in Atlantic City is considerably lighter than NY. Of course,
there is no "inside" sailing at AC, anyone there (or in other NJ
ports) would go offshore for sailing, and that's different weather.
The issue your friend has is that your area is too far removed from
real sailing grounds.

Once your horizon is further than line of sight, you want better
access to open water. Don't worry, it took 20 years of daysailing
before my horizons broadened; you're still young so it may yet happen
to you while you can still handle a line.

In fact we had a fellow with a
Triton who left our club two weeks ago for that reason and I think
we've been hit by good winds this season. That's because I bought a
vessel perfect for these local conditions.

Yes, your boat is perfect for someone who neither races nor cruises,
and never leaves you local protected area.

I love full keel boats, but at least a 3rd of the time I see them here
they are under power and for good reason.

Indeed, that's the case for most boats that travel.

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* Capt. Rob wrote, On 7/11/2007 9:25 AM:
Fouling something hard enough to bend a shaft while leaving the
marina
doesn't speak well for your seamanship or the construction quality of
your boat.



You're right! I should've had my forward looking sonar aimed right at
the surface, as whatever it was did not appear at the surface even
after we hit it.


No, you should not have been going faster than you reaction time would
allow you to throttle back or go into neutral, especially if you were
still near the marina.

This is yet another case like your hitting a rock and then claiming
everyone does it. Snagging a line is fairly common; wrapping it so
tight you bend a shaft is more likely incompetence. Doing it inside
the marina is pretty stupid!

Our shaft was not made by Beneteau, but clearly it
must have been inferior French steel!

So, your claiming that someone other than Beneteau took the proper
shaft out of you boat and put in an inferior replacement??? Shouldn't
a survey catch that?

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On Jul 11, 8:25 am, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Fouling something hard enough to bend a shaft while leaving the
marina
doesn't speak well for your seamanship or the construction quality of
your boat.

You're right! I should've had my forward looking sonar aimed right at
the surface, as whatever it was did not appear at the surface even
after we hit it. Our shaft was not made by Beneteau, but clearly it
must have been inferior French steel!

RB
35s5
NY

Did you get SeaTow to haul you back to the dock, or Tow-boats US?

Joe

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"Capt. **** Head" wrote in message
oups.com..
..



I spoke to the folks at Drivesaver and they
claim that shaft damage is less likely with their
drivesaver. They
also claim that ANY incomponent sailor can damage
anything.



they could tell just from talking to you on the phone?

no surprise there.

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"Joe" wrote in message
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RB
35s5
NY

Did you get SeaTow to haul you back to the dock, or
Tow-boats US?


I May-Dayed the coasties and they called SeaTow.

RB
355s55
NY

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No, you should not have been going faster than you reaction time
would
allow you to throttle back or go into neutral, especially if you were
still near the marina.


According to the head mechanic, the damage was instant and the
decoupling also instant. Throttling back wasn't going to hurt or help.
I shut the engine down. Thier verdict: A semi-submerged log or timber
of some sort


Snagging a line is fairly common; wrapping it so
tight you bend a shaft is more likely incompetence. Doing it inside
the marina is pretty stupid!


I did not hit a line.


So, your claiming that someone other than Beneteau took the proper
shaft out of you boat and put in an inferior replacement???
Shouldn't
a survey catch that?


Nope. I was making light of your comment regarding build quality.
Especially not knowing what we hit, how it engaged the prop and so on.
You can do what we did: Guess. The head mechanic probably knows more
about such things than you do. He said there was no way we could have
avoided it and we were barely turning 2000 RPM. When our tow boat came
around they said something hard bumped their boat, but they couldn't
see it. But knowing what happened they arrived with the big Yamaha
tilted halfway up.



RB
35s5
NY

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Did you get SeaTow to haul you back to the dock, or Tow-boats US?



The beauty of working with my club is that I made a quick call and
they brought us to the travel lift using the service boat.



RB
35s5
NY

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Wrong agaiin, Martin. I spoke to the folks at Drivesaver



Sure you did Bob, whatever you say Bob....



Spoke to Mark over there, Martin. You're welcome to call him up and
check up on it, hear what he has to say. I've sold 4 of the
Drivesavers thus far and the breakaway point CAN save a shaft from
damage, especially when fouling lines. Period.
Call and talk to them about it.

Do you want me to explain EXACTLY how the drivesaver can save a
sailboat shaft? My guess is that even YOU will be able to understand
the physics.


RB
35s5
NY

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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Wrong agaiin, Martin. I spoke to the folks at Drivesaver



Sure you did Bob, whatever you say Bob....



Spoke to Mark over there, Martin. You're welcome to call him up and
check up on it, hear what he has to say. I've sold 4 of the
Drivesavers thus far and the breakaway point CAN save a shaft from
damage, especially when fouling lines. Period.
Call and talk to them about it.

Do you want me to explain EXACTLY how the drivesaver can save a
sailboat shaft? My guess is that even YOU will be able to understand
the physics.


Tell us how it saved yours!

Rubber is a spring like material that returns to its original shape. So how
does this absorb energy?

If you really believe rubber or springs absorb energy then you must also
believe that ice coolers stay cool by absorbing the heat that impinges on
them.

Explain the physics, please!

Tell us!

You stupid dolt!!!

Mooooooo-hoooooooo-haaaaaaaaa-haaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!