miles wrote:... Tell us what right you have personally been affected by
losing.


For one, I now need a passport to go to Canada that I have to buy and
another there is a lot of silence about how much improper snooping and eves
dropping that has been done on John Q Public last several years.


THAT'S IT ??????
A passport....how completely outrageous.
And .............SILENCE !!!
Oh my God, silence, how terrible.
Silence about something that may not even have happened...........terrible
!!!!

Go count how many leaves you have in your springs.



--
JerryD(upstateNY)

On Wed, 16 May 2007 12:15:22 GMT, SnoMan wrote:

This is so lame, you have lost more rights then you realize during the
last 6 years. It may be years more before the full loss and impact of
the this from past 6 years is completely understood. They have been
waving the flag telling you it is for your own good while they have
been taking them away last 6 years.



Would you care to tell me what 'rights' I have lost in the last 6+
years?

Dean

The ONLY rights anyone has are those for which he's willing to die.





























"Wilbur Hubbard" wrote in message
...
Bill Of Rights to be Pared Down To A Manageable Five

May 14, 2007

WASHINGTON, DC-Flanked by key Democrat members of Congress, House
Speaker Nancy Pelosi approved Monday a streamlined version of the Bill of
Rights that pares its 10 original amendments down to a "tight,
no-nonsense" five.
As supporters looked on, Pelosi signed the "Bill Of Rights Reduction
And Consolidation Act of 2007."
A Democratic initiative that went unopposed by congressional Democrats,
the revised Bill of Rights provides citizens with a "more manageable" set
of privacy and due-process rights by eliminating five amendments and
condensing and/or restructuring five others. The Second Amendment, which
protects the right to keep and bear arms, was the first on chopping block.
Calling the historic reduction "a victory for Blue State America,"
Pelosi promised that the new document would do away with "constitutional
impediments to Democrat government power."
"It is high time we reaffirmed our commitment to this living document
and enduring symbol of American ideals," Pelosi said. "By making the Bill
of Rights a tool for progress instead of a hindrance to political power,
we honor the true spirit of our nation's forefathers."
The Fourth Amendment, which long protected citizens' homes against
unreasonable search and seizure, was among the eliminated amendments. Also
stricken was the Ninth Amendment, which stated that the enumeration of
certain Constitutional rights does not result in the abrogation of rights
not mentioned.
"Quite honestly, I could never get my head around what the Ninth
Amendment meant anyway," said new House Majority Leader Harry Reid
(D-Nev.), one of the leading advocates of the revised Bill of Rights. "So
goodbye to that one."
Amendments V through VII, which guaranteed the right to legal counsel
in criminal cases, and guarded against double jeopardy, testifying against
oneself, biased juries, and drawn-out trials, have been condensed into
Super-Amendment V: The One About Trials which grants equal rights to
terrorists.
Attorney General Alberto Gonzales criticized the slimmed-down Bill of
Rights as "another liberal power grab."
"Go up to the average citizen and ask them what's in the Bill of
Rights," Gonzales said. "Chances are, they'll have only a vague notion.
They just know it's a set of rules put in place to protect their
individual freedoms from government intrusion, and they assume that's a
good thing, but Democrats, as usual, think the American people are
clueless dolts who can't count to ten so the fewer the Amendments the
better."
Pelosi responded sharply to critics who charge that the Bill of Rights
no longer safeguards certain basic, inalienable rights. "We're not taking
away personal rights; we're increasing personal security and cleaning up
the house," Pelosi said. "By allowing for greater government control over
the particulars of individual liberties, the Bill of Rights will now offer
condensed personal freedoms whenever they are deemed appropriate and
unobtrusive to the activities necessary to effective operation and
expansion of the federal government."
Pelosi added that, thanks to several key additions, the Bill of Rights
now offers protections that were previously lacking, including the right
to be protected by soldiers quartered in one's home (Amendment III), the
guarantee that activities not specifically delegated to the states and
people will be carried out by the federal government (Amendment VI), and
freedom from Judeo-Christianity and anti-Democrat Party speech (Amendment
I).
According to U.S. Sen. Harry Reid (D-Nev.), the original Bill of Rights,
though well-intentioned, was "seriously outdated."
"The United States is a different place than it was back in 1791," Reid
said. "As visionary as they were, the framers of the Constitution never
could have foreseen, for example, that our government would one day
attempt to jail alleged terrorists indefinitely without judicial review.
There was no such thing as suspicious Middle Eastern immigrants back then.
These aspiring world citizens who have every right to tax supported
lawyers and speedy trials and writs of habeas corpus."
"Any machine, no matter how well-built, periodically needs a tune-up
to keep it in good working order," Speaker Pelosi said. "Now that we have
the bugs worked out of the ol' Constitution, she'll be purring like a
kitten for the upcoming 2008 elections - just in time to consolidate
Democratic power."
"Ten was just too much of a handful," Pelosi added. "Five civil
liberties are more than enough."
President Bush promises a veto.

Wilbur Hubbard