"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
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Has anyone noticed that the liberal responses in this thread all took a
very dim view of our troops in spite of the fact the average age of the
troops is close to 30 years and at least 1/3 have college degrees.

My point is well proven.

The point on the top of your head is well-proven.

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On May 3, 11:29 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
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On May 3, 9:01 pm, Dave wrote:
On 3 May 2007 18:29:28 -0700, Joe said:

While spoiled brats like BB wasted daddys money barely flunking out
of Harvard, these guys became officers in the military and earned
degrees while they served.

While BB was hurling spitballs at a blackboard, these guys, and gals
were hurling off a carrier's in 300 million dollar aircrafts.

Now why don't you tell us how you really feel? g

We have a Navy commander's boat here in the marina, a Navy blue
Sabre 426. It makes BB's cracked keel little C&C boat look like
trash.

Joe

If he's got a Sabre, he must be intelligent. g

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A much more intelligent choice than a cracked C&C. And IMO they do
not let "idiots" become mission commanders on the shuttle.

Joe

On May 4, 6:12 am, Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 3 May 2007 20:04:01 -0500, Dave wrote:

On Thu, 03 May 2007 20:11:11 -0400, Charlie Morgan said:

Yes. I can't speak to the Army, but I well recall several ET petty officers
I had working for me aboard ship who had IQs in the 140 to 160 range, and
were definitely not "ignorant kids." And that wasn't even the destroyer
Navy.

I think its obvious to anyone with an IQ over 80 that we are talking about NOW,
not 30 years ago.

I'll admit my recent contacts with military types have been limited to the
marine reservist down the hall, who came back from Iraq a few months ago,
and an army general who recently retired and became CEO of a client.

That's a pretty tiny sample group.

So let me ask you the question I asked BS. How many of those "kids" do you
know?

I get to talk to at least a few every day. I also get to talk to kids who will
grow up without one of their parents, bereaved spouses and siblings, and parents
who have lost kids.

CWM

Sure you do sock puppet..Your a liar, it's easy to tell.

If not prove it.

And I'm not talking about you going to the airport and spitting on
the troops as they arrive back from a tour in Iraq.

Joe

On May 3, 11:28 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"katy" wrote in message

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Dave wrote:
On 3 May 2007 13:01:50 -0700, "Capt. Rob" said:

Our troops are generally ignorant kids.

And how many of them do you know?

I concur on that...many of the individuals that live in the apartemnt
complex we're in are military...between 25-35 years old...I've spoken to
many, male and female in the past 18 months and none of them struck me as
naive, ignorant or inherently stupid. Most were quite conversant, very
polite, and seemingly competent.

I don't think most of them are ignorant or stupid. Many of them have limited
options, and reasonably thought that joining the military would be a way out
of poverty. They were right and they were wrong. A lot of them are dying for
no good reason.

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I guess Tilman had no other options huh?

Most enlisted people, and officers can find better paying jobs than
the military. You may think defeating evil is not a good reason to
die, but I assure you that is not the way they feel. Again like Rob &
BB you can not make an educated assestment of military people, because
you have not served. The only thing you know is what Rosie and Moore,
and Ms Pepsi types spoon feeds you.

Joe

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
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We are indeed winning.

It is the Democrats that are telling our troops, "You have failed, you
cannot get the job done".

Our troops voluntarily go into danger and all Democrats can tell them is
that they are a disappointment to Americans.

I am not disappointed with our troops. They are doing an outstanding job
and getting it done with limited resources and manpower.

God Bless America.

I'm not disappointed either, but they're not getting much done. Please
show us where a main-stream Democrat has said they're a disappointment.
You can't. That's just the right-wing nut in you talking.

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Two personal attacks directed by you against me in one thread.

John Kerry has said the troops are a disappointment. Here you go:

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/wa...th _bush_gop/

"If you don't do well in school, you get stuck in Iraq."

SMACKDOWN!!!!!

"Joe" wrote in message
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On May 3, 11:28 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"katy" wrote in message

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Dave wrote:
On 3 May 2007 13:01:50 -0700, "Capt. Rob" said:

Our troops are generally ignorant kids.

And how many of them do you know?

I concur on that...many of the individuals that live in the apartemnt
complex we're in are military...between 25-35 years old...I've spoken
to
many, male and female in the past 18 months and none of them struck me
as
naive, ignorant or inherently stupid. Most were quite conversant, very
polite, and seemingly competent.

I don't think most of them are ignorant or stupid. Many of them have
limited
options, and reasonably thought that joining the military would be a way
out
of poverty. They were right and they were wrong. A lot of them are dying
for
no good reason.

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I guess Tilman had no other options huh?

Look up the definition of the word "most" and get back to us.

Most enlisted people, and officers can find better paying jobs than
the military.

I doubt that it's true for "most" enlisted people, but please feel free to
provide the statistics.

The rest is right-wing ranting, which I've deleted.

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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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"Bob Crantz" wrote in message
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We are indeed winning.

It is the Democrats that are telling our troops, "You have failed, you
cannot get the job done".

Our troops voluntarily go into danger and all Democrats can tell them is
that they are a disappointment to Americans.

I am not disappointed with our troops. They are doing an outstanding job
and getting it done with limited resources and manpower.

God Bless America.

I'm not disappointed either, but they're not getting much done. Please
show us where a main-stream Democrat has said they're a disappointment.
You can't. That's just the right-wing nut in you talking.

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Two personal attacks directed by you against me in one thread.


Huh???? I only see one.

The word disappointment does not appear in the article. Looks like you're
having reading problems.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 4 May 2007 12:12:11 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

Most enlisted people, and officers can find better paying jobs than
the military.

I doubt that it's true for "most" enlisted people, but please feel free to
provide the statistics.

You really think military pay's that high?

Oh, I forgot. You don't believe there are jobs in the economy other than
flipping burgers.


Huh? I'm saying that military pay is not very high, but a lot of the
enlisted have few viable options. Do you dispute this? If so, feel free to
show the stats that can find better jobs, but would rather not.

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On May 4, 2:54 pm, Dave wrote:


As I see it, your claim says more about your attitude than it says of the
abilities of the service men and women.

BINGO! It lost Kerry the election. Everybody saw what a 2 faced liar
pompas ass momma's boy he was. Robbie, Jon, and BB are the same
types.

Joe

"Dave" wrote in message
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On Fri, 4 May 2007 12:34:31 -0700, "Capt. JG"
said:

Huh? I'm saying that military pay is not very high, but a lot of the
enlisted have few viable options. Do you dispute this? If so, feel free to
show the stats that can find better jobs, but would rather not.

You've got this backwards, Jon. Your the one asserting that those serving
their country have no viable options. That puts the burden of proof on
you.

As I see it, your claim says more about your attitude than it says of the
abilities of the service men and women.


No I don't. Joe asserted that "Most enlisted people, and officers can find
better paying jobs than the military."

I asked him to show us those stats.

I'm asserting that most enlisted (not officers) have a limited ability to
find viable options, and in addition, the pay isn't good.

As I see it, you're attitude is what got us into a war of choice.

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