http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z_Wk8Dz2n8

On May 1, 8:07 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 1 May 2007 18:57:04 -0600, "Bob Crantz"
scribbled thusly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z_Wk8Dz2n8

One small bomb for Tehran
One giant leap backward for mankind.

Did wonders for Japan.

Doolittle's a bit tame for Amajahitler we need Major Kong!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcW_Ygs6hm0

Joe



Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.

OzOne wrote in message ...
On 1 May 2007 18:57:35 -0700, Joe scribbled
thusly:

On May 1, 8:07 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 1 May 2007 18:57:04 -0600, "Bob Crantz"
scribbled thusly:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9z_Wk8Dz2n8

One small bomb for Tehran
One giant leap backward for mankind.

Did wonders for Japan.

Doolittle's a bit tame for Amajahitler we need Major Kong!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcW_Ygs6hm0


Different times and Japan was the agressor....you are the agressor
this time....maybe Tehran is working on the same solution that you
used.

Heh, heh. The difference is that Japan hadn't developed nukes, and we only
had a few. Tehran could conceivably come up with a few low-yield devices,
but we literally have thousands of the big-yield strategic nukes, many of
which are still on the noses of ICBMs. Sort of like attempting to beat off
a pack of lions with a wet noodle.

Max

OzOne wrote:
On Wed, 02 May 2007 03:52:14 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:


Heh, heh. The difference is that Japan hadn't developed nukes, and we only
had a few. Tehran could conceivably come up with a few low-yield devices,
but we literally have thousands of the big-yield strategic nukes, many of
which are still on the noses of ICBMs. Sort of like attempting to beat off
a pack of lions with a wet noodle.

Max


So now you have a lunatic in charge, MAD has been resurrected?

Hardly MAD, Oz. Worst Iran could do ATM is pop a nuke or 2 on the lines of the
Nagasaki/Hiroshima bombs. BFD. Dunno about you but I've been on ground zero in
NM and the Monte Bellos where nukes were tested in the 40s & 50s, and there
are a lot of people currently living in those 2 Japanese cities as well.

OTOH Iran could turn into a glass lake. No MAD about it, since Iran hasn't the
capacity to inflict significant damage.

If someone popped a nuke on Canberra, I might be prepared to let it slide,
provided parliament was sitting at the time, but if it was any other city in
Australia, I'd be in the glass lake mindset.

As for the USA starting things with Iran, I suspect you've gotten your
knowledge of history from SBS or the ABC, not by any serious reading of
history. But I could be wrong, you might actually know better and are just
stirring the possum. Either way I don't have the time to bother, and you've
shown little stomach for an argument on facts rather than polemics, so....

Back to the ship. One new transducer fitted, one to go. I got over being
surprised over how a 2 day job takes at least 10 the moment you put a ship in
a dry dock back in the last century. However, I haven't gotten over being
****ed off about it. Garden Island is a great spot though, and I'm enjoying
wandering about looking at all the historic buildings. Photography is still
banned in a lot of places there.

PDW

On May 2, 7:10 pm, PDW wrote:
OzOne wrote:
On Wed, 02 May 2007 03:52:14 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:

Heh, heh. The difference is that Japan hadn't developed nukes, and we only
had a few. Tehran could conceivably come up with a few low-yield devices,
but we literally have thousands of the big-yield strategic nukes, many of
which are still on the noses of ICBMs. Sort of like attempting to beat off
a pack of lions with a wet noodle.

Max

So now you have a lunatic in charge, MAD has been resurrected?

Hardly MAD, Oz. Worst Iran could do ATM is pop a nuke or 2 on the lines of the
Nagasaki/Hiroshima bombs. BFD. Dunno about you but I've been on ground zero in
NM and the Monte Bellos where nukes were tested in the 40s & 50s, and there
are a lot of people currently living in those 2 Japanese cities as well.

OTOH Iran could turn into a glass lake. No MAD about it, since Iran hasn't the
capacity to inflict significant damage.

If someone popped a nuke on Canberra, I might be prepared to let it slide,
provided parliament was sitting at the time, but if it was any other city in
Australia, I'd be in the glass lake mindset.

As for the USA starting things with Iran, I suspect you've gotten your
knowledge of history from SBS or the ABC, not by any serious reading of
history. But I could be wrong, you might actually know better and are just
stirring the possum. Either way I don't have the time to bother, and you've
shown little stomach for an argument on facts rather than polemics, so....

Back to the ship. One new transducer fitted, one to go. I got over being
surprised over how a 2 day job takes at least 10 the moment you put a ship in
a dry dock back in the last century. However, I haven't gotten over being
****ed off about it. Garden Island is a great spot though, and I'm enjoying
wandering about looking at all the historic buildings. Photography is still
banned in a lot of places there.

PDW

Why's photography banned?

Joe

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Wed, 02 May 2007 03:52:14 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:


Heh, heh. The difference is that Japan hadn't developed nukes, and we
only
had a few. Tehran could conceivably come up with a few low-yield devices,
but we literally have thousands of the big-yield strategic nukes, many of
which are still on the noses of ICBMs. Sort of like attempting to beat
off
a pack of lions with a wet noodle.

Max


So now you have a lunatic in charge, MAD has been resurrected?

Nothing even close to MAD. It's completely one-sided. The USA has a
'retaliation in kind' policy. If a sovereign nation uses WMDs against us,
our stated policy is to strike back with WMDs--nukes, most likely, in our
case. Iran can bluster and bandy about thermonuclear threats all it wants,
but I suspect even Amadhinijad is wise enough to realize he cannot compete.

Max

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 3 May 2007 02:10:16 +0200 (CEST), PDW
scribbled thusly:

Hardly MAD, Oz. Worst Iran could do ATM is pop a nuke or 2 on the lines of
the
Nagasaki/Hiroshima bombs.

Only one or two.....nothing to worry about then.....

The Iranians have no delivery system, beyond a motivated jihadist. The USA,
OTOH . . .

Nukes apparently have very distinct signatures. The word on the street is
that it is easy to determine from whom a nuke came. Even if Amahdinijad
were to place a couple in this country, his country will, as Pete pointed
out, will become little more than black glass.

Max

OzOne wrote in message ...
On Thu, 03 May 2007 02:18:55 GMT, "Maxprop"
scribbled thusly:

Nothing even close to MAD. It's completely one-sided. The USA has a
'retaliation in kind' policy. If a sovereign nation uses WMDs against us,
our stated policy is to strike back with WMDs--nukes, most likely, in our
case. Iran can bluster and bandy about thermonuclear threats all it
wants,
but I suspect even Amadhinijad is wise enough to realize he cannot
compete.

Max

Nah, I guess nothing like MAD...just a nuke or two in a major US
city...nothing to worry about, you can always strike back...that'll
negate the original strike won't it!

Hardly. It would destroy the US economy for a decade or more, especially if
it were NYC or Chicago. They can have LA for all I care. g

But it's not MAD. The USA will persevere. Iran will vanish. And depending
upon how ****ed the President (whomever that may be at the time) and
Congress are at the time, half the Middle East may go with Iran.

Max

OzOne wrote:
On Thu, 3 May 2007 02:10:16 +0200 (CEST), PDW
scribbled thusly:


As for the USA starting things with Iran, I suspect you've gotten your
knowledge of history from SBS or the ABC, not by any serious reading of
history. But I could be wrong, you might actually know better and are just
stirring the possum. Either way I don't have the time to bother, and you've
shown little stomach for an argument on facts rather than polemics, so....

Ahhhh maybe you should address this to Joe....

Why bother, Oz? I *know* that Joe is pig-ignorant of anything outside the USA.
If you've read other stuff I've written in the past, you'd have seen my
ripping strips off him. You, OTOH, I'm not sure about.... your lobotomy may
not have been 100% effective.


Back to the ship. One new transducer fitted, one to go. I got over being
surprised over how a 2 day job takes at least 10 the moment you put a ship
in
a dry dock back in the last century. However, I haven't gotten over being
****ed off about it. Garden Island is a great spot though, and I'm enjoying
wandering about looking at all the historic buildings. Photography is still
banned in a lot of places there.

I believe the Island has some very sensitive sites that our various
Govts would prefer that we didn't know about....something about the
heart of nuclear free Sydney........

Stupid place for a Naval dockyard IMO. Made sense - maybe - in the 40's but
not now. Ah well, new sea chest goes in tomorrow - maybe - then X-rays to
follow, then we can fit the gear and get on a plane. I do like Sydney to
visit, but there are limits. Besides I just loaded a new universal vertical
milling head aboard for my Hobart toy shop, and my stores guy in Hobart
informed me that my Ebay milling machine has arrived. I have more interesting
things to do now I've spent my current machine tool toy budget.

PDW

On May 3, 7:26 pm, PDW wrote:
OzOne wrote:
On Thu, 3 May 2007 02:10:16 +0200 (CEST), PDW
scribbled thusly:

As for the USA starting things with Iran, I suspect you've gotten your
knowledge of history from SBS or the ABC, not by any serious reading of
history. But I could be wrong, you might actually know better and are just
stirring the possum. Either way I don't have the time to bother, and you've
shown little stomach for an argument on facts rather than polemics, so....

Ahhhh maybe you should address this to Joe....

Why bother, Oz? I *know* that Joe is pig-ignorant of anything outside the USA.

I know it's smarter and more cost effective to buy portholes than to
tool up to mfg a dozen or so, unless your time is not worth anything.


If you've read other stuff I've written in the past, you'd have seen my
ripping strips off him. You, OTOH, I'm not sure about.... your lobotomy may
not have been 100% effective.

Almost as effective as yours Peter, shoulden't you be moving around a
80 ton hunk of rusted chinese iron so you can tinker in your shop?
Just think, you would only have to build 4 molds, and 24 parts and
finish your foundry, spend several hundered dollars on electricity,
find scrap bronze to melt, use a couple 75K machine tools and with
only 100 plus hours labor per porthole... you will have a fine
porthole for your boat.

Joe



Back to the ship. One new transducer fitted, one to go. I got over being
surprised over how a 2 day job takes at least 10 the moment you put a ship
in
a dry dock back in the last century. However, I haven't gotten over being
****ed off about it. Garden Island is a great spot though, and I'm enjoying
wandering about looking at all the historic buildings. Photography is still
banned in a lot of places there.

I believe the Island has some very sensitive sites that our various
Govts would prefer that we didn't know about....something about the
heart of nuclear free Sydney........

Stupid place for a Naval dockyard IMO. Made sense - maybe - in the 40's but
not now. Ah well, new sea chest goes in tomorrow - maybe - then X-rays to
follow, then we can fit the gear and get on a plane. I do like Sydney to
visit, but there are limits. Besides I just loaded a new universal vertical
milling head aboard for my Hobart toy shop, and my stores guy in Hobart
informed me that my Ebay milling machine has arrived. I have more interesting
things to do now I've spent my current machine tool toy budget.

PDW