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Jonathan Ganz April 19th 07 03:51 AM

How many more?
 
In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:
Where are you getting this BS? Gun dealers are under the close and constant
scrutiny of the BATFE. Screw up even slightly and the dealer loses his FFL.


You're joking. There's no where near enough ATF agents to do that.

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Jonathan Ganz April 19th 07 03:59 AM

How many more?
 
In article .com,
Bill wrote:
So, a legal resident, who is arrested is thrown in a gulag without the
rights afforded to a US citizen??? Sorry, but that's your fantasy.


Wow you are really emotionally charged in your decision making aren't
you? You sound like a teenage girl on her period.


Ah, the last resort of a nutcase unable to support his
case... personal insult.






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Jonathan Ganz April 19th 07 04:00 AM

How many more?
 
In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:
Remove inner city violence and get back to me with new figures. That 30K
figure is one the anti-gun crowd loves to bandy about, but it isn't
representative of the issues facing gun control advocates. Do you honestly
believe you're going to stop the shootings between gangs with gun control
legislation?


Absolutely possible. Why is there gang violence? Think about it
carefully before answering.

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Bill April 19th 07 05:57 AM

How many more?
 
Yes Bill, but murders like VT are not usually carried out by
terrorists per say but by usually normal people who have lost it.
With Cho Seung-Hui's history he should have not been allowed easy
access to a pistol.


I absolutely agree with you. But this is not a usual case. I do not
think that people with his history should be allowed to own a gun and
if there is some way that reporting people like that could be made
easier so that he would get listed on the no sale list then I think it
should be so. There are a lot of reasons why you could denied when
you are checked, this should be one of them. I think crazy should
definitely be on the list of reasons why someone should not own a gun.


Maxprop April 19th 07 04:23 PM

How many more?
 

OzOne wrote in message ...

Bill, Collecting and hunting are very different matters and can be
covered in legislation.


They can be, but will they be? Handgun Control, Inc., the preeminent gun
control advocate organization in this country, has a mission statement that
clearly states its desire to see the elimination of ALL guns, not just
handguns. If its goals are ever achieved, there will be no quarter given to
collectors and hunters. This is far and away the primary reason for the
NRA's legislative activities.

Max



Maxprop April 19th 07 04:28 PM

How many more?
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:
Where are you getting this BS? Gun dealers are under the close and
constant
scrutiny of the BATFE. Screw up even slightly and the dealer loses his
FFL.


You're joking. There's no where near enough ATF agents to do that.


Halliburton.

Max



Maxprop April 19th 07 04:29 PM

How many more?
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:
Remove inner city violence and get back to me with new figures. That 30K
figure is one the anti-gun crowd loves to bandy about, but it isn't
representative of the issues facing gun control advocates. Do you
honestly
believe you're going to stop the shootings between gangs with gun control
legislation?


Absolutely possible. Why is there gang violence? Think about it
carefully before answering.


Halliburton?

Max



Capt. JG April 19th 07 05:16 PM

How many more?
 
"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

OzOne wrote in message
...

Bill, Collecting and hunting are very different matters and can be
covered in legislation.


They can be, but will they be? Handgun Control, Inc., the preeminent gun
control advocate organization in this country, has a mission statement
that clearly states its desire to see the elimination of ALL guns, not
just handguns. If its goals are ever achieved, there will be no quarter
given to collectors and hunters. This is far and away the primary reason
for the NRA's legislative activities.

Max



Woooo scary. Buy more guns now.

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Martin Baxter April 19th 07 06:17 PM

How many more?
 
Maxprop wrote:



You're joking. There's no where near enough ATF agents to do that.


Halliburton.


Now cut that out! You know that's Jons' word!

Cheers
Marty

Bill April 19th 07 06:34 PM

How many more?
 
Capt. JG's briliant response is..

Woooo scary. Buy more guns now.


Hey maybe your on to somehting here. Legal gun sales provide tax and
fee revenue to the agencies that regulate gun sales and provide checks
so the more guns legal law abiding citizens buy the more money there
will be to enforce laws that prevent using guns to kill people and the
more money will be available to fight illegal gun sales and useage. I
am totally agreeing with you r plan here. Good to see you coming over
to our side.


Capt. JG April 19th 07 06:45 PM

How many more?
 
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:



You're joking. There's no where near enough ATF agents to do that.


Halliburton.


Now cut that out! You know that's Jons' word!

Cheers
Marty



Cheney is my word. Or, it is Karl (Actung!) Rove... err, words, whatever.

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Jeff April 19th 07 08:23 PM

How many more?
 
* Maxprop wrote, On 4/19/2007 11:23 AM:
OzOne wrote in message ...

Bill, Collecting and hunting are very different matters and can be
covered in legislation.


They can be, but will they be? Handgun Control, Inc., the preeminent gun
control advocate organization in this country, has a mission statement that
clearly states its desire to see the elimination of ALL guns, not just
handguns. If its goals are ever achieved, there will be no quarter given to
collectors and hunters. This is far and away the primary reason for the
NRA's legislative activities.

Max



More lies from the NRA puppets. Don't you ever get tired of looking
like idiots?

This is from "Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence" (aka Guncontrol,
Inc):

Q. Is Brady a "gun ban" organization? Are you really just trying to
make all guns illegal in America?

Brady believes that a safer America can be achieved without banning
guns. Our stand is simple. We believe that law-abiding citizens should
be able to buy and keep firearms. And we believe there are sensible
gun laws that we can and should insist upon when it comes to gun
ownership.

First and foremost, we should try to keep guns out of the hands of
those who should not have them, including criminals and children.

Second, there are certain classes of weapons that should be out of
bounds for private ownership. They include Saturday-night specials,
which are used almost exclusively for crime, military-style assault
weapons like Uzis and AK-47s, and .50-caliber sniper rifles, which
serve no ordinary sporting purpose.

Third, we believe that those who do own guns ought to be held to the
highest standards of safety. They should be well trained in the use of
their weapons and they should be required to keep weapons secure, so
that neither innocent children nor prohibited persons can get a hold
of them.

JR April 19th 07 10:58 PM

How many more?
 
Brilliant Jon,
Care to offer any proof?


The guy who killed 33 people because he had easy access to guns isn't
proof enough?

The murderer didn't kill because he had easy access to guns, he killed
because he was a whacked out nutjob.
Proper intervention by school officials to a known problem could have/would
have prevented this tragedy.

Damn Jon, drop another tab and finish the job.

Regards,
JR



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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article .com,
Joe wrote:
On Apr 17, 1:05 pm, (Jonathan Ganz) wrote:
In article . com,

Joe wrote:
On Apr 17, 11:30 am, (Jonathan Ganz) wrote:

And, they have easy access to guns, especially handguns. If you
remove
that easy access, then they might have a chance to get help before 33
people die needlessly. Why don't you tell us it's "in the
Constitution" again if it makes you feel better.

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Capt. JG -Hide quoted text -

Wrong

Right.

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Brilliant Jon,
Care to offer any proof?


The guy who killed 33 people because he had easy access to guns isn't
proof enough?


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Capt. JG April 19th 07 11:19 PM

How many more?
 
"JR" wrote in message
...
Brilliant Jon,
Care to offer any proof?


The guy who killed 33 people because he had easy access to guns isn't
proof enough?


The murderer didn't kill because he had easy access to guns, he killed
because he was a whacked out nutjob.


He killed because he was a nutjob. He was able to kill so many because of
access to guns.
Isn't this obvious?

Proper intervention by school officials to a known problem could
have/would have prevented this tragedy.


Perhaps. And, in conjunction with more limited access to multiple
(especially) guns would have helped also. No guarantees, but both would have
likely helped.


Damn Jon, drop another tab and finish the job.


??

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Maxprop April 19th 07 11:54 PM

How many more?
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:



You're joking. There's no where near enough ATF agents to do that.

Halliburton.


Now cut that out! You know that's Jons' word!

Cheers
Marty



Cheney is my word. Or, it is Karl (Actung!) Rove... err, words, whatever.


I'll be sure to add those to my vocabulary.

Max



Maxprop April 19th 07 11:56 PM

How many more?
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

OzOne wrote in message
...

Bill, Collecting and hunting are very different matters and can be
covered in legislation.


They can be, but will they be? Handgun Control, Inc., the preeminent gun
control advocate organization in this country, has a mission statement
that clearly states its desire to see the elimination of ALL guns, not
just handguns. If its goals are ever achieved, there will be no quarter
given to collectors and hunters. This is far and away the primary reason
for the NRA's legislative activities.

Max



Woooo scary. Buy more guns now.


Cheney.

Max



Maxprop April 20th 07 12:00 AM

How many more?
 

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* Maxprop wrote, On 4/19/2007 11:23 AM:
OzOne wrote in message
...

Bill, Collecting and hunting are very different matters and can be
covered in legislation.


They can be, but will they be? Handgun Control, Inc., the preeminent gun
control advocate organization in this country, has a mission statement
that clearly states its desire to see the elimination of ALL guns, not
just handguns. If its goals are ever achieved, there will be no quarter
given to collectors and hunters. This is far and away the primary reason
for the NRA's legislative activities.

Max


More lies from the NRA puppets. Don't you ever get tired of looking like
idiots?

This is from "Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence" (aka Guncontrol,
Inc):

Q. Is Brady a "gun ban" organization? Are you really just trying to make
all guns illegal in America?

Brady believes that a safer America can be achieved without banning guns.
Our stand is simple. We believe that law-abiding citizens should be able
to buy and keep firearms. And we believe there are sensible gun laws that
we can and should insist upon when it comes to gun ownership.

First and foremost, we should try to keep guns out of the hands of those
who should not have them, including criminals and children.

Second, there are certain classes of weapons that should be out of bounds
for private ownership. They include Saturday-night specials, which are
used almost exclusively for crime, military-style assault weapons like
Uzis and AK-47s, and .50-caliber sniper rifles, which serve no ordinary
sporting purpose.

Third, we believe that those who do own guns ought to be held to the
highest standards of safety. They should be well trained in the use of
their weapons and they should be required to keep weapons secure, so that
neither innocent children nor prohibited persons can get a hold of them.


This is the only response I'll make to any of your posts, Jeff, primarily
because you can't debate without name-calling.

Handgun Control, Inc. has a mission statement in black and white which
states clearly that they intend to eliminate all guns from public
possession. Whatever they've said subsequently to the media is BS and
inconsistent with their original platform.

Now, go play in the street.

Max



Jeff April 20th 07 01:26 AM

How many more?
 
* Maxprop wrote, On 4/19/2007 7:00 PM:
"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
* Maxprop wrote, On 4/19/2007 11:23 AM:
OzOne wrote in message
...

Bill, Collecting and hunting are very different matters and can be
covered in legislation.
They can be, but will they be? Handgun Control, Inc., the preeminent gun
control advocate organization in this country, has a mission statement
that clearly states its desire to see the elimination of ALL guns, not
just handguns. If its goals are ever achieved, there will be no quarter
given to collectors and hunters. This is far and away the primary reason
for the NRA's legislative activities.

Max

More lies from the NRA puppets. Don't you ever get tired of looking like
idiots?

This is from "Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence" (aka Guncontrol,
Inc):

Q. Is Brady a "gun ban" organization? Are you really just trying to make
all guns illegal in America?

Brady believes that a safer America can be achieved without banning guns.
Our stand is simple. We believe that law-abiding citizens should be able
to buy and keep firearms. And we believe there are sensible gun laws that
we can and should insist upon when it comes to gun ownership.

First and foremost, we should try to keep guns out of the hands of those
who should not have them, including criminals and children.

Second, there are certain classes of weapons that should be out of bounds
for private ownership. They include Saturday-night specials, which are
used almost exclusively for crime, military-style assault weapons like
Uzis and AK-47s, and .50-caliber sniper rifles, which serve no ordinary
sporting purpose.

Third, we believe that those who do own guns ought to be held to the
highest standards of safety. They should be well trained in the use of
their weapons and they should be required to keep weapons secure, so that
neither innocent children nor prohibited persons can get a hold of them.


This is the only response I'll make to any of your posts, Jeff, primarily
because you can't debate without name-calling.

Handgun Control, Inc. has a mission statement in black and white which
states clearly that they intend to eliminate all guns from public
possession. Whatever they've said subsequently to the media is BS and
inconsistent with their original platform.

Now, go play in the street.


In other words, although the group changed their name and direction
some years ago to be more consistent with the will of the people, you
feel justified in lying about their position.

The game is politics, Max. Groups and parties that want to make a
real change take positions that appeal to a large number of people.
Nowadays, the majority of this country wants consistent gun laws that
prevent kids from driving down to SC and coming back with a trunk full
of guns. The Brady Center has adopted the position the law abiding
citizens should be able to have handguns and hunting weapons, while
criminals and kids should not have easy access to assault weapons.

The obvious problem that the NRA has this position is that the
majority of the country can easily get behind it. Therefore, they
have to convince their dupes that the Brady Center has a hidden agenda
that hearkens back to their earlier incarnation. I see that some
people are buying that.






Capt. JG April 20th 07 01:27 AM

How many more?
 
"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

OzOne wrote in message
...

Bill, Collecting and hunting are very different matters and can be
covered in legislation.

They can be, but will they be? Handgun Control, Inc., the preeminent
gun control advocate organization in this country, has a mission
statement that clearly states its desire to see the elimination of ALL
guns, not just handguns. If its goals are ever achieved, there will be
no quarter given to collectors and hunters. This is far and away the
primary reason for the NRA's legislative activities.

Max



Woooo scary. Buy more guns now.


Cheney.


Pockmarked lawyers... g

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Maxprop April 20th 07 04:32 AM

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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

OzOne wrote in message
...

Bill, Collecting and hunting are very different matters and can be
covered in legislation.

They can be, but will they be? Handgun Control, Inc., the preeminent
gun control advocate organization in this country, has a mission
statement that clearly states its desire to see the elimination of ALL
guns, not just handguns. If its goals are ever achieved, there will be
no quarter given to collectors and hunters. This is far and away the
primary reason for the NRA's legislative activities.

Max



Woooo scary. Buy more guns now.


Cheney.


Pockmarked lawyers... g


Halliburton must produce shotgun shells, too.

Max



Capt. JG April 20th 07 05:18 AM

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

OzOne wrote in message
...

Bill, Collecting and hunting are very different matters and can be
covered in legislation.

They can be, but will they be? Handgun Control, Inc., the preeminent
gun control advocate organization in this country, has a mission
statement that clearly states its desire to see the elimination of ALL
guns, not just handguns. If its goals are ever achieved, there will
be no quarter given to collectors and hunters. This is far and away
the primary reason for the NRA's legislative activities.

Max



Woooo scary. Buy more guns now.

Cheney.


Pockmarked lawyers... g


Halliburton must produce shotgun shells, too.

Max


Lawyers. g

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Scotty April 20th 07 10:10 PM

How many more?
 

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"
Remove inner city violence and get back to me with new

figures. That 30K
figure is one the anti-gun crowd loves to bandy about, but

it isn't
representative of the issues facing gun control advocates.

Do you honestly
believe you're going to stop the shootings between gangs

with gun control
legislation?



Sure, prohibition worked.




Scotty April 21st 07 01:51 AM

How many more?
 

OzOne wrote in message
...

Bill Collecting and hunting are very different matters and

can be
covered in legislation.


Ozwald's right, we shoot Bill Collectors from the porch, to
go hunting you have to walk into the woods a few feet.




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Scotty April 21st 07 02:00 AM

How many more?
 
It's a win-win situation, more guns, less foreigners.

SV


OzOne wrote in message
...
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 07:53:24 -0400, katy


scribbled thusly:

Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article ,
katy wrote:


I just read that...IMO , whether someone is a permanent

resident or not,
non-citizens have no right to have a gun....that needs

to be rectified...


Is that because you're discounting an entire people?


I'm discounting anyone who is not an American citizen...



Great...I guess 'they' don't have any right to self

defence against
one of 'us'.........in a land where self defence seems a

priority.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,
We've been expecting you.




Jeff April 21st 07 02:27 AM

How many more?
 
* Scotty wrote, On 4/20/2007 8:51 PM:
OzOne wrote in message
...
Bill Collecting and hunting are very different matters and

can be
covered in legislation.


Ozwald's right, we shoot Bill Collectors from the porch, to
go hunting you have to walk into the woods a few feet.


I always will remember,
'Twas a year ago November,
I went out to hunt some deer
On a mornin' bright and clear.
I went and shot the maximum the game laws would allow,
Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a cow.

I was in no mood to trifle,
I took down my trusty rifle
And went out to stalk my prey.
What a haul I made that day.
I tied them to my fender, and I drove them home somehow,
Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a cow.

The law was very firm, it
Took away my permit,
The worst punishment I ever endured.
It turned out there was a reason,
Cows were out of season,
And one of the hunters wasn't insured.

People ask me how I do it,
And I say, "There's nothin' to it,
You just stand there lookin' cute,
And when something moves, you shoot!"
And there's ten stuffed heads in my trophy room right now,
Two game wardens, seven hunters, and a pure-bred Guernsey cow.

The Hunting Song, Tom Lehrer

Maxprop April 21st 07 05:46 AM

How many more?
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

OzOne wrote in message
...

Bill, Collecting and hunting are very different matters and can be
covered in legislation.

They can be, but will they be? Handgun Control, Inc., the preeminent
gun control advocate organization in this country, has a mission
statement that clearly states its desire to see the elimination of
ALL guns, not just handguns. If its goals are ever achieved, there
will be no quarter given to collectors and hunters. This is far and
away the primary reason for the NRA's legislative activities.

Max



Woooo scary. Buy more guns now.

Cheney.


Pockmarked lawyers... g


Halliburton must produce shotgun shells, too.

Max


Lawyers. g


Cheney.

Max



Maxprop April 21st 07 05:48 AM

How many more?
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Maxprop" wrote in message
ink.net...

"
Remove inner city violence and get back to me with new

figures. That 30K
figure is one the anti-gun crowd loves to bandy about, but

it isn't
representative of the issues facing gun control advocates.

Do you honestly
believe you're going to stop the shootings between gangs

with gun control
legislation?



Sure, prohibition worked.


Uh-huh. Like the illegality of recreational drugs.

Max



Capt. JG April 21st 07 07:12 AM

How many more?
 
"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

OzOne wrote in message
...

Bill, Collecting and hunting are very different matters and can be
covered in legislation.

They can be, but will they be? Handgun Control, Inc., the
preeminent gun control advocate organization in this country, has a
mission statement that clearly states its desire to see the
elimination of ALL guns, not just handguns. If its goals are ever
achieved, there will be no quarter given to collectors and hunters.
This is far and away the primary reason for the NRA's legislative
activities.

Max



Woooo scary. Buy more guns now.

Cheney.


Pockmarked lawyers... g

Halliburton must produce shotgun shells, too.

Max


Lawyers. g


Cheney.


Careful... Dave will claim I'm foaming at the mouth again.

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Scotty April 21st 07 03:15 PM

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net..
..



Sure, prohibition worked.


Uh-huh. Like the illegality of recreational drugs.



Is MJ still illegal?




Maxprop April 23rd 07 03:54 AM

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"Scotty" wrote in message
...

"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net..
.



Sure, prohibition worked.


Uh-huh. Like the illegality of recreational drugs.



Is MJ still illegal?


To the best of my knowledge, Michael Jackson is living in Dubai. I don't
believe they've outlawed him there.

Yet.

Max




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