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katy wrote: The majority of polls are slanted and biased...I suggest rather than polls we vote...I've listened to people taking polls...half of them don't even understand what they're being asked...I even doubt that more than 50% of those that go to the voting booth vote with anything but a gut feeling or a biased belief founded more on peer pressure, familial history, or the 30 minute nightly news interspersed with commercials for Burger King...I do not believe the average American is an informed voter...and yet, they do their "patriotic" duty and parade off to the voting booth uninformed or unable to dicipher facts, figures, and opinions... Ah, the majority. You must have a consensus on that position. -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Maxprop wrote: We, as a population, are over-polled. Polls are conducted for anything these days. We poll the people to see how often they have sex, what brand of peanut butter they buy, who in Hollywood they find appealing, etc. ad nauseum. I tend to believe people are dishonest or disinterested w/r/t being polled. The proof of that is how radically and quickly polls of identical issues can change virtually overnight. I, on the other had, believe people are basically honest w/r/t most things, including polls, but I'm a liberal. -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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katy wrote: I just read that...IMO , whether someone is a permanent resident or not, non-citizens have no right to have a gun....that needs to be rectified... Is that because you're discounting an entire people? -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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katy wrote: Because it's our reffing country, that's why....if you want to play the American way, tehn become an American....otherwise don't expect the perks without the paying the price... This country was founded and has prospered because of non-natives. I guess being a legal alien since he was five doesn't count for much in your book. Perhaps he should have been deported. -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Maxprop wrote: OzOne wrote in message ... Whoa? What is it that puts a non citizen in a position where he is unable to defend himself when you claim that right? The US Constitution. It applies to citizens, not aliens. Wrong. It applies to anyone under jurisdiction here. -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Joe wrote: They had guns in 1927. Point is the mass murder took place without guns. Keep at it. Maybe you should claim Hillary did it. Why would I blame Hillary? The only one to blame is the Seung-hui Cho. Thats something you liberal seems to not understand, people are responsible for their own actions. Nope. Hillary is to blame. She a liberal QED she did it. -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Maxprop wrote: "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... And, they have easy access to guns, especially handguns. If you remove that easy access, then they might have a chance to get help before 33 people die needlessly. Why don't you tell us it's "in the Constitution" again if it makes you feel better. Easy access to handguns is an American fact of life--now and forever. Do People thought the same thing about slavery... -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article , katy wrote: I just read that...IMO , whether someone is a permanent resident or not, non-citizens have no right to have a gun....that needs to be rectified... Is that because you're discounting an entire people? I'm discounting anyone who is not an American citizen... |
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article , katy wrote: Because it's our reffing country, that's why....if you want to play the American way, tehn become an American....otherwise don't expect the perks without the paying the price... This country was founded and has prospered because of non-natives. I guess being a legal alien since he was five doesn't count for much in your book. Perhaps he should have been deported. Not deported but the question rises as to why, at the age of 23, he had not declred citzenship or the intent of taking citizenship. Most resident aliens can't wait for their 7 years to be up so they can become a citizen. If you have no intention of becoming a citizen, then why have permanent resident status unless you're a representative of a foreign country? I am not speaking here about visas for people who come here with a specific purpose for a specific time. They come and they go and that's all right. I don't care if non-citizens go to our colleges and universities as long as they take what they learned back to improve their own nations. I do take issue with people that come here to drink from our well and then spit in it when they're finished. |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , katy wrote: I just read that...IMO , whether someone is a permanent resident or not, non-citizens have no right to have a gun....that needs to be rectified... Is that because you're discounting an entire people? Read the Constitution, Jon. The Second Amendment applies to citizens. Is that really so difficult to grasp? Max |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , katy wrote: Because it's our reffing country, that's why....if you want to play the American way, tehn become an American....otherwise don't expect the perks without the paying the price... This country was founded and has prospered because of non-natives. I guess being a legal alien since he was five doesn't count for much in your book. Perhaps he should have been deported. No one is implying that. Legal aliens have many rights in this country. But should owning/possessing a gun be one of them? I doubt if the founding fathers would have bought into that. Max |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article et, Maxprop wrote: OzOne wrote in message . .. Whoa? What is it that puts a non citizen in a position where he is unable to defend himself when you claim that right? The US Constitution. It applies to citizens, not aliens. Wrong. It applies to anyone under jurisdiction here. The Constitution consistently refers to "the people," which all Constitutional scholars agree was a term synonymous with "US citizens" as intended by the founders. Max |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article . com, Joe wrote: They had guns in 1927. Point is the mass murder took place without guns. Keep at it. Maybe you should claim Hillary did it. Why would I blame Hillary? The only one to blame is the Seung-hui Cho. Thats something you liberal seems to not understand, people are responsible for their own actions. Nope. Hillary is to blame. She a liberal QED she did it. Typical liberal--blame everyone but the person at fault. g Max |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article et, Maxprop wrote: "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... And, they have easy access to guns, especially handguns. If you remove that easy access, then they might have a chance to get help before 33 people die needlessly. Why don't you tell us it's "in the Constitution" again if it makes you feel better. Easy access to handguns is an American fact of life--now and forever. Do People thought the same thing about slavery... Are you attempting to equate the abolition of slavery to gun control??? Would you be willing to plunge the country into years of civil war resulting in the death of hundreds of thousands, the destruction of cities, a failed economy, all in order to save a few dozen lives each year? Max |
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Maxprop wrote:
"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , katy wrote: Because it's our reffing country, that's why....if you want to play the American way, tehn become an American....otherwise don't expect the perks without the paying the price... This country was founded and has prospered because of non-natives. I guess being a legal alien since he was five doesn't count for much in your book. Perhaps he should have been deported. No one is implying that. Legal aliens have many rights in this country. But should owning/possessing a gun be one of them? I doubt if the founding fathers would have bought into that. Max The ramifications of resident aliens being able to buy guns...the guns can and do end up leaving the country...the guns end up in terrorist hands....we've legalized a way for an enemy to infiltrate and destroy us and our allies...we've opened up a vehicle for gun trafficking that is based on a leagailty... |
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katy wrote: Because it's our reffing country, that's why....if you want to play the American way, tehn become an American....otherwise don't expect the perks without the paying the price... This country was founded and has prospered because of non-natives. I guess being a legal alien since he was five doesn't count for much in your book. Perhaps he should have been deported. Not deported but the question rises as to why, at the age of 23, he had not declred citzenship or the intent of taking citizenship. Most Maybe because he had mental problems or maybe because at 23, having been here since he was a baby, he really didn't see the urgency? Who knows. It makes no difference at all resident aliens can't wait for their 7 years to be up so they can become a citizen. If you have no intention of becoming a citizen, then why have permanent resident status unless you're a representative of a foreign country? I am not speaking here about visas for people who come here with a specific purpose for a specific time. They come and they go and that's all right. I don't care if non-citizens go to our colleges and universities as long as they take what they learned back to improve their own nations. I do take issue with people that come here to drink from our well and then spit in it when they're finished. Who decides? You? -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Maxprop wrote: "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , katy wrote: Because it's our reffing country, that's why....if you want to play the American way, tehn become an American....otherwise don't expect the perks without the paying the price... This country was founded and has prospered because of non-natives. I guess being a legal alien since he was five doesn't count for much in your book. Perhaps he should have been deported. No one is implying that. Legal aliens have many rights in this country. But should owning/possessing a gun be one of them? I doubt if the founding fathers would have bought into that. How does one figure it out? In the case of a rifle, in a gun shop, you don't need to prove your citizenship. Many gun shops don't even follow the minimal regs that are on the books. I believe he just walked in, plunked down a CC and away went 33 lives. -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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katy wrote: The ramifications of resident aliens being able to buy guns...the guns can and do end up leaving the country...the guns end up in terrorist hands....we've legalized a way for an enemy to infiltrate and destroy us and our allies...we've opened up a vehicle for gun trafficking that is based on a leagailty... That would be the least of our worries. The enemies are all around us, batten down the hatches! Hurry! -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Maxprop wrote: "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article et, Maxprop wrote: OzOne wrote in message ... Whoa? What is it that puts a non citizen in a position where he is unable to defend himself when you claim that right? The US Constitution. It applies to citizens, not aliens. Wrong. It applies to anyone under jurisdiction here. The Constitution consistently refers to "the people," which all Constitutional scholars agree was a term synonymous with "US citizens" as intended by the founders. So, a legal resident, who is arrested is thrown in a gulag without the rights afforded to a US citizen??? Sorry, but that's your fantasy. -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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katy wrote: Jonathan Ganz wrote: In article , katy wrote: I just read that...IMO , whether someone is a permanent resident or not, non-citizens have no right to have a gun....that needs to be rectified... Is that because you're discounting an entire people? I'm discounting anyone who is not an American citizen... Ah... like Tony Blair, Nelson Mandela, Ghandi, the Pope... those people. -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Maxprop wrote: "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , katy wrote: I just read that...IMO , whether someone is a permanent resident or not, non-citizens have no right to have a gun....that needs to be rectified... Is that because you're discounting an entire people? Read the Constitution, Jon. The Second Amendment applies to citizens. Is that really so difficult to grasp? Thank god for the Gitmo gulag then! -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Maxprop wrote: "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article . com, Joe wrote: They had guns in 1927. Point is the mass murder took place without guns. Keep at it. Maybe you should claim Hillary did it. Why would I blame Hillary? The only one to blame is the Seung-hui Cho. Thats something you liberal seems to not understand, people are responsible for their own actions. Nope. Hillary is to blame. She a liberal QED she did it. Typical liberal--blame everyone but the person at fault. g I apologize. Bush did it. g -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Maxprop wrote: Easy access to handguns is an American fact of life--now and forever. Do People thought the same thing about slavery... Are you attempting to equate the abolition of slavery to gun control??? Would you be willing to plunge the country into years of civil war resulting in the death of hundreds of thousands, the destruction of cities, a failed economy, all in order to save a few dozen lives each year? Nope. But, you did quite nicely. What you describe isn't that far from what is already happening due to gun violence... someone said, 30K a year, not counting collateral damage to families. -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article , katy wrote: Because it's our reffing country, that's why....if you want to play the American way, tehn become an American....otherwise don't expect the perks without the paying the price... This country was founded and has prospered because of non-natives. I guess being a legal alien since he was five doesn't count for much in your book. Perhaps he should have been deported. Not deported but the question rises as to why, at the age of 23, he had not declred citzenship or the intent of taking citizenship. Most Maybe because he had mental problems or maybe because at 23, having been here since he was a baby, he really didn't see the urgency? Who knows. It makes no difference at all But it does make a difference...there is none so blind as those that cannot see...take off your blinders, Jon... resident aliens can't wait for their 7 years to be up so they can become a citizen. If you have no intention of becoming a citizen, then why have permanent resident status unless you're a representative of a foreign country? I am not speaking here about visas for people who come here with a specific purpose for a specific time. They come and they go and that's all right. I don't care if non-citizens go to our colleges and universities as long as they take what they learned back to improve their own nations. I do take issue with people that come here to drink from our well and then spit in it when they're finished. Who decides? You? As in the collective "you". yes...all of us...the citizens of this country... |
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article , katy wrote: The ramifications of resident aliens being able to buy guns...the guns can and do end up leaving the country...the guns end up in terrorist hands....we've legalized a way for an enemy to infiltrate and destroy us and our allies...we've opened up a vehicle for gun trafficking that is based on a leagailty... That would be the least of our worries. The enemies are all around us, batten down the hatches! Hurry! That's almost laughable that you react that way when the terrorists from 9/11 were in this country, perpetrated their crime in this country, and were trained in this country...yes...the enemy IS all around us becasue we frickin let them in, harbor them, and encourage them by our apathy to blow us up, shoot us, and destroy our economy... |
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Jonathan Ganz wrote:
In article , katy wrote: Jonathan Ganz wrote: In article , katy wrote: I just read that...IMO , whether someone is a permanent resident or not, non-citizens have no right to have a gun....that needs to be rectified... Is that because you're discounting an entire people? I'm discounting anyone who is not an American citizen... Ah... like Tony Blair, Nelson Mandela, Ghandi, the Pope... those people. Now you're being absolutely stupid...none of those people are resident aliens or never would be..only person I can think of at the moment that is a resident alien with that status is the Dali Lama...and he is a political refuge and is hjere under the flag of diplomacy...totally different...as are all refuges here because of a diplomatic event...they did not choose to leave their countries and abandon their ideals, their countries chose to change the ideal and make them a wanted person or a partiah...I |
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katy wrote: But it does make a difference...there is none so blind as those that cannot see...take off your blinders, Jon... Nice pat answer that means nothing. As in the collective "you". yes...all of us...the citizens of this country... Collective? Sounds commie to me. I think one person should decide. -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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katy wrote: That would be the least of our worries. The enemies are all around us, batten down the hatches! Hurry! That's almost laughable that you react that way when the terrorists from 9/11 were in this country, perpetrated their crime in this country, and were trained in this country...yes...the enemy IS all around us becasue we frickin let them in, harbor them, and encourage them by our apathy to blow us up, shoot us, and destroy our economy... I don't believe they tried to export any guns, which was your argument. And, since you brought it up, Republicans were in charge and had been warned by the previous administration. They went on vacation. -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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katy wrote: Now you're being absolutely stupid...none of those people are resident aliens or never would be..only person I can think of at the moment that is a resident alien with that status is the Dali Lama...and he is a political refuge and is hjere under the flag of diplomacy...totally different...as are all refuges here because of a diplomatic event...they did not choose to leave their countries and abandon their ideals, their countries chose to change the ideal and make them a wanted person or a partiah...I We should definitely not let the Dali Lama buy a gun... oh no... -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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katy wrote:
The ramifications of resident aliens being able to buy guns...the guns can and do end up leaving the country...the guns end up in terrorist hands....we've legalized a way for an enemy to infiltrate and destroy us and our allies...we've opened up a vehicle for gun trafficking that is based on a leagailty... I assure you that terrorist organizations get weapons using much simpler and more efficient methods than smuggling sporting weapons acquired one at a time in the U.S... They either get their weaponry given to them buy a sympathetic government, who may well have acquired those arms through legal channels. There have been reports over the years of the US government either outright giving weapons to other regimes or heavily subsidizing those transactions, only to have the same weapons turn up at later date pointed at US troops or their allies. Then there's always the arms dealer route, quasi legitimate people who buy large quantities of arms from US manufactures promising to transfer the weapons to users acceptable to the US gov'mint, presenting false End Use Certificates, there have been many credible reports that would suggest that the gov'mint is perfectly well aware of this, but chooses to do nothing about it. Cheers Marty ------------ And now a word from our sponsor ------------------ For a quality usenet news server, try DNEWS, easy to install, fast, efficient and reliable. For home servers or carrier class installations with millions of users it will allow you to grow! ---- See http://netwinsite.com/sponsor/sponsor_dnews.htm ---- |
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We have knife and gun control.
So we don't have kids taking either to school..... That brings up a goos point. Guns are illegal on all school property in the U.S. except by law enforcement. |
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So, a legal resident, who is arrested is thrown in a gulag without the
rights afforded to a US citizen??? Sorry, but that's your fantasy. Wow you are really emotionally charged in your decision making aren't you? You sound like a teenage girl on her period. |
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I wonder about the ethics of that.
'If' it's considered necessary by so many people in the US to sport a weapon to protect themselves against their own, How could you justify an alien NOT being allowed to afford himself the same protection from people who would often recognise him as a foreigner, possibly a tourist and fair game? You keep going on about the ability to protect your self but no one is making arguments saying that guns are necessary to protect yourself or even that we owns guns because we are afraid of something. Everyone has been talking about the goverment taking away our freedoms and if doing so is worth whatever benefit we may or may not have. I think you are not even in the same argument here because you think that we own guns soley for the need to protect ourselves but the fact is that we should not have to justify ourselves at all. Here we have a thing called innocent until proven guilty. Background checks and regulations are fine as they are because they are designed to find out if you have proven guilty already or not. If I haven't done anything wrong then why should I be punished? |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article . net, Maxprop wrote: "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , katy wrote: Because it's our reffing country, that's why....if you want to play the American way, tehn become an American....otherwise don't expect the perks without the paying the price... This country was founded and has prospered because of non-natives. I guess being a legal alien since he was five doesn't count for much in your book. Perhaps he should have been deported. No one is implying that. Legal aliens have many rights in this country. But should owning/possessing a gun be one of them? I doubt if the founding fathers would have bought into that. How does one figure it out? In the case of a rifle, in a gun shop, you don't need to prove your citizenship. Many gun shops don't even follow the minimal regs that are on the books. Where are you getting this BS? Gun dealers are under the close and constant scrutiny of the BATFE. Screw up even slightly and the dealer loses his FFL. I believe he just walked in, plunked down a CC and away went 33 lives. He didn't. Look it up. Max |
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"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article . net, Maxprop wrote: Easy access to handguns is an American fact of life--now and forever. Do People thought the same thing about slavery... Are you attempting to equate the abolition of slavery to gun control??? Would you be willing to plunge the country into years of civil war resulting in the death of hundreds of thousands, the destruction of cities, a failed economy, all in order to save a few dozen lives each year? Nope. But, you did quite nicely. What you describe isn't that far from what is already happening due to gun violence... someone said, 30K a year, not counting collateral damage to families. Remove inner city violence and get back to me with new figures. That 30K figure is one the anti-gun crowd loves to bandy about, but it isn't representative of the issues facing gun control advocates. Do you honestly believe you're going to stop the shootings between gangs with gun control legislation? Max |
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OzOne wrote in message ... On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 13:17:35 GMT, "Maxprop" scribbled thusly: "Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message ... In article , katy wrote: Because it's our reffing country, that's why....if you want to play the American way, tehn become an American....otherwise don't expect the perks without the paying the price... This country was founded and has prospered because of non-natives. I guess being a legal alien since he was five doesn't count for much in your book. Perhaps he should have been deported. No one is implying that. Legal aliens have many rights in this country. But should owning/possessing a gun be one of them? I doubt if the founding fathers would have bought into that. Max I wonder about the ethics of that. 'If' it's considered necessary by so many people in the US to sport a weapon to protect themselves against their own, How could you justify an alien NOT being allowed to afford himself the same protection from people who would often recognise him as a foreigner, possibly a tourist and fair game? Find a medium with one hell of a crystal ball and have a seance. Order up the spirits of the founding fathers and ask 'em. Max |
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So you maintain that people keep guns only because it's their right to
do so? No I believe that self defence is an issue but I should not have to justify that I need it for self defence. People own guns for a lot of reasons. Collecting, hunting, recreational shooting, memorabelia, because they like them. I am willing to bet that 90% of the things you own you don't need. You could live without them but you choose not to. You shouldn't have to justify the desire to own them. Oh and I bet I could come up with a way for you to harm someone with any of those things if you got mad enough. |
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Bill, Collecting and hunting are very different matters and can be
covered in legislation. It's pistol ownership for whatever reason that needs to be addressed....and yes, I do have stuff I don't need, but that stuff does not include a lethal weapon . Pistols can't be collected or used for target pratice? Really? Why is a pistol any different than a rifle or a shotgun? in fact rifles and shotguns are far more powerful than any pistol. I like shooting pistols at the range. I do have one for selfe defense should the need ever arise. I mostly like the pistol because it is a reproduction of a great handgun used for over 90 years by the military and I think it is a really well designed thing that I can use for personal enjoyment and should I need to, to protect myself and my family. Why is that wrong? I own a car and have come much closer to harming people with that than I have ever come with my gun. Again more people die in cars than with a gun every year but nobody advocates eliminating those. You can generate a lot more power with a vehicle than you can with a bullet. |
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Tell me Bill when was the last time you recall someone driving a car
into a school and murdering 30 people? OR INDEED DRIVING A CAR INTO ANY GROUP OF PEOPLE AND MURDERING SCORES? Maybe this looks familiar. No guns were used by the attckers. NEARLY 200 DEAD. Again those that don't care for human life and want to kill will always find a way. THEY DON'T CARE IF OWNING A GUN IS ILLEGAL. I'd hate to be losing... Car bombs kill nearly 200 in deadliest Iraq attacks From correspondents in Iraq April 19, 2007 08:39am Article from: NEWS.com.au Font size: + - Send this article: Print Email * 190 killed in attacks in Shiite districts * 'Swimming pool of blood' at crowded market * Iraqi PM blames extremist "vampires" FOUR car bombs detonated in a co-ordinated attack have killed more than 190 people in Baghdad in the deadliest attacks in the city since US and Iraqi forces launched a security crackdown aimed at halting the country's slide into sectarian civil war. One car bomb alone at a bustling market in the mainly Shiite Sadriya neighbourhood killed 140 people and wounded 150, police have said. "The street was transformed into a swimming pool of blood," said Ahmed Hameed, a shopkeeper near the scene. Among the other attacks to have struck the capital, police have said a suicide car bomber killed 35 people and wounded more than 70 at a checkpoint in Sadr City, stronghold of the firebrand cleric Moqtada al-Sadr. More were reported killed in two other attacks. All were apparently timed to coincide with each other, hours after Shiite Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki said Iraq would take security control of the whole country from foreign forces by the end of the year. Mr Maliki blamed the attacks on infidels and Sunni extremist "vampires" and said the Iraqi Army commander responsible for the area had been detained and would be investigated over the "weakness" of his protection of civilians. "This monstrous attack today did not distinguish between the old and young, between men and women. It targeted the population in a way that reminds us of the massacres and genocide committed by the former dictatorship," he said. Mr Maliki is under growing pressure to say when US troops will leave, but the attacks in mainly Shiite areas of Baghdad underscored the huge security challenges. US Defence Secretary Robert Gates has said the US will not be shaken from its mission of pacifying sectarian tensions in Iraq and would push on with its new strategy to do so, in which 80,000 US and Iraqi troops are patrolling Iraqi streets. "We have anticipated from the very beginning... that the insurgency and others would increase the violence to make the people of Iraq believe the plan is a failure," he has said. "We intend to persist to show that it is not." Burned alive "I saw dozens of dead bodies. Some people were burned alive inside minibuses. Nobody could reach them after the explosion," said a witness at Sadriya, describing scenes of mayhem at an intersection where the bomb exploded. "There were pieces of flesh all over the place. Women were screaming and shouting for their loved ones who died," said the witness who did not wish to be identified, adding many of the dead were women and children. Firefighters doused nearby cars and buses, as dozens of ambulances and pick-up trucks ferried wounded to hospital and volunteers wrapped charred bodies in carpets for transport to the city's overflowing mortuaries. One man waving his arms in the air screamed hysterically: "Where's Maliki? Let him come and see what is happening here." "Where is the security plan? We are not protected by this plan," the bereaved shouted. US and Iraqi forces began deploying thousands more troops onto Baghdad's streets in February. US military spokesman Rear Admiral Mark Fox has admitted commanders were frustrated at their inability to prevent such car bombings, but insisted Iraq was not witnessing any further escalation of sectarian violence. Al-Qaeda is blamed for most of the major bombings targeting Shiites in Iraq and there are fears Sadr's Mehdi Army - which numbers in the tens of thousands - may take to the streets to retaliate. "There is no magic solution to put out the fire of sectarian sedition that some are trying to set up, especially al Qaeda," Mr Maliki said in a speech made on his behalf before the attacks. The Sadriya bombing was the highest death toll in a single attack in Baghdad since a truck bomb killed 135 people in the same area on February 3. - Reuters and AFP Oz1...of the 3 twins. I welcome you to crackerbox palace, We've been expecting you. |
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Yes Bill, but it's not one armed person in the US.......maybe you
could throw in 911 now to get totally off the track. I am aware that they are not in the U.S. but the fact remains that if you want to kill someone, there are ways to do it even if guns are not involved. That is point being illustrated. That people that want to kill others do so without regard to what laws some liberal made. If there are no guns available to kill the amount of people they are after then they load up a car and blow up ten times more. |
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