On Mar 29, 11:49 am, katy wrote:
Joe wrote:
On Mar 29, 11:15 am, katy wrote:

Joe wrote:

On Mar 29, 10:17 am, katy wrote:

Scotty wrote:

Do whatever it takes ( pay ransom?) to get the sailors out
and
then NUKE THAT FREAKING PLACE TO HELL !!!!!!!!!

SBV

Too many innocent people...and if we gave them 24 hours to evacuate do
you really think they wouldn't retaliate by nuking Israel? And do you
think either Russia or CHina is going to sit back and allow that to
happen or not take similar measures to us if we did such a thing? THis
isn't like Japan...other people have nukes now and what that would cause
is a mass chain reaction ...we would, of course, win the battle becasue
we have the superior firepower, butwe would lose the war with the
world...whatever respect we now have would go down the drain...and we
would be responsible for massive destruction on the earth, polluting the
air streams, water, etc. And qwe would certainly have global warming
after such an event....

I think we will have global cooling..Ever hear of a Nuclear winter?

I mispoke

Russia could not do squawt, China sells to much stuff here.

China could give a rip how much stuff we buy in that scenario...enough
of our companies are now over there that they would just nationalize
them...China is the biggest silent threat to the world right now and
people do not realize that she is just sitting there taking a nap until
the time is right...why make that time now?

I think cruise missles and stelth aircraft can take care of the
problem in a day without the use of nukes.

It hasn't taken care of the problem in Iraq...

uhhh Saddam's dead. Todays problem is internal Iraqi, insurgents and
the fact we stayed to help them attain order.
We should have killed Saddam and his evil horde secured the oil fields
until we were paid back 10Xs over with crude then left.

No way should we put one troop on the ground in Iran... unless it is
colvert targeting teams illuminating targets for the B52's, B1's and
Stelth's.

Joe

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For every Saddam you kill over there, 10 more will spring up.

With the knowledge of what happened to the first Saddam.

...this is
not conventional war fought for conventional means but jihad on their
part. They are not going to relent. I do beleive we have a responsibilty
now that we've interferred to put things right in Iraq and I think there
are enough Iraqui's who want that so it might work

Not if the dems add so much pork to a funding bill it's vetoed and the
troops do not get the supplies they need.
And giving the insurgents a time frame to leave, all they have to do
is sit it out until we leave.

but Iran is a
different story. It is a much more sophisticated country than Iraq.
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Depends on what you blow-up. We learned in 1979 how Iran deals with
hostages.

If you make it to expensive to take hostages, then the leaders will
be encourged to prevent it. As things are they have nothing to bargain
policy with but the hostages. If we do not act in a firm and
determined way we encourage such action.

Let's hope Blair acts soon.

Joe





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"Scotty" w@u wrote in message
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Nuke em all!

Then drill through the glass to the oil. g


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"katy" wrote in message
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Lloyd Bonafide wrote:
Those hostages should turn things around on the Iranian sand monkeys.
First they should beat each others faces so they can't be shown on tv.
They should not eat at all and attempt to kill themselves. This all will
make the Iranian acne monsters look bad as if they were the abusers. They
should make as much trouble as possible so they Iranian dune fools will
plead with the Brits to take them back.

BTW I just fought my way off of Netkkkop. hahaha!!

Lloyd
Right...compound the issue with lies....great idea....you're a real
piece...

http://www.nwc.navy.mil/press/Review...r/art9-w98.htm

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/James_Stockdale

"He was held as a prisoner of war in the Hoa Lo prison for the next seven
years. Locked in leg irons in a bath stall, he was routinely tortured and
beaten. When told by his captors that he was to be paraded in public,
Stockdale slit his scalp with a razor to purposely disfigure himself so that
his captors could not use him as propaganda. When they covered his head with
a hat, Stockdale beat himself with a stool until his face was swollen beyond
recognition. He told them in no uncertain terms that they would never use
him. When Stockdale heard that other prisoners were dying under the torture,
he slit his wrists and told them that he preferred death to submission.

Little did Stockdale know that the actions of his wife, Mrs. Sybil
Stockdale, had a tremendous impact on how the North Vietnamese reacted to
these acts of self-mutilation in 1969. Early in her husband's captivity she
organized The League of American Families of POW's and MIA's, with other
wives of servicemen who were in similar circumstance. By 1968 she and her
organization, which called for the President and the U.S. Congress to
publicly acknowledge the mistreatment of the POW's (something that they had
never done even though they had evidence of gross mistreatment), was finally
getting the attention of the American press and consequently the attention
of the North Vietnamese. Mrs. Stockdale personally made these demands known
at The Paris Peace Talks and private comments made to her by the head of the
Vietnamese delegation there indicated concern that her organization might
catch the attention of the American public, something the North Vietnamese
knew could turn the tide against them. The result couldn't have been more
fortunate for James Stockdale at the very time he slit his wrists. The
Vietnamese now understood that they had no choice but to end their program
of brutal torture or else they would be exposed internationally for their
gross acts of cruelty, something that would completely derail their
propaganda program which had so successfully convinced the American press
and public that the prisoners were well treated."

"Lloyd Bonafide" wrote in message
...
Those hostages should turn things around on the Iranian sand monkeys.
First they should beat each others faces so they can't be shown on tv.
They should not eat at all and attempt to kill themselves. This all
will make the Iranian acne monsters look bad as if they were the
abusers. They should make as much trouble as possible so they Iranian
dune fools will plead with the Brits to take them back.

BTW I just fought my way off of Netkkkop. hahaha!!

Did that Jonathan Ganz netKKKop you again? That man's a royal pain in
the behind. But, it might not have been him. Aioe has been tuning their
servers and were off for several days. They just returned yesterday. I'm
Ted Bell and I haven't been able to post either. (Theyr'e otta be a
law!) I thought maybe it was that scurvy fellow Ganz for a brief moment
but as proficient a netKKKop as he is, even he can't put an entire
server off-line. Speaking of servers. We have some fine specimens of
femininity serving great scrumptious steaks at Ted's of Beverly Hills
Steakhouse. Be sure to treat yourself to a mouth-watering extravaganza
if you find yourself visiting the home of the stars.

I'm Ted Bell!

"Ted Bell" wrote in message
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"Lloyd Bonafide" wrote in message
...
Those hostages should turn things around on the Iranian sand monkeys.
First they should beat each others faces so they can't be shown on
tv. They should not eat at all and attempt to kill themselves. This
all will make the Iranian acne monsters look bad as if they were the
abusers. They should make as much trouble as possible so they Iranian
dune fools will plead with the Brits to take them back.

BTW I just fought my way off of Netkkkop. hahaha!!

Did that Jonathan Ganz netKKKop you again? That man's a royal pain in
the behind. But, it might not have been him. Aioe has been tuning
their servers and were off for several days. They just returned
yesterday. I'm Ted Bell and I haven't been able to post either.
(Theyr'e otta be a law!) I thought maybe it was that scurvy fellow
Ganz for a brief moment but as proficient a netKKKop as he is, even he
can't put an entire server off-line. Speaking of servers. We have some
fine specimens of femininity serving great scrumptious steaks at Ted's
of Beverly Hills Steakhouse. Be sure to treat yourself to a
mouth-watering extravaganza if you find yourself visiting the home of
the stars.

I'm Ted Bell!


Get a life.

Wilbur Hubbard

On Mar 29, 1:19 pm, "Lloyd Bonafide" wrote:
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Vietnamese now understood that they had no choice but to end their program
of brutal torture or else they would be exposed internationally for their
gross acts of cruelty, something that would completely derail their
propaganda program which had so successfully convinced the American press
and public that the prisoners were well treated."


This Guy Lloyd ? http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Co..._6p.vsmall.jpg

What's that blue thing around his neck?

Was he Ross's VP?

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message
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On Mar 29, 1:19 pm, "Lloyd Bonafide" wrote:
snip
The
Vietnamese now understood that they had no choice but to end their
program
of brutal torture or else they would be exposed internationally for
their
gross acts of cruelty, something that would completely derail their
propaganda program which had so successfully convinced the American
press
and public that the prisoners were well treated."


This Guy Lloyd ?
http://msnbcmedia.msn.com/j/msnbc/Co..._6p.vsmall.jpg

What's that blue thing around his neck?


Deputy sheriff badge? Citizen's auxiliary police bandana?

Wilbur Hubbard