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New Discoveries?
UNIONS SUCK !
"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message ... On 28 Mar 2007 11:20:52 -0700, lid (Jonathan Ganz) wrote: In article , Frank Boettcher wrote: On 27 Mar 2007 17:35:46 -0700, lid (Jonathan Ganz) wrote: I had to join the union. It was a completely different job function. I forget the name of it... National something in San Diego. Jon, I can remember the name of every organization I've worked for going back fifty years. What's the problem? I looked it up... National Pen... I had lots of jobs in college. g It is unusual for a factory in a forced union state like California, to have very low end and low paid jobs that are outside the bargaining unit. Being involved in the collective bargaining process for many years, I'm just trying to understand how that could happen. I have no idea. That's the way it was. I actually tried to organize the envelop stuffers and pen stampers at one point... looked up the procedure in the library, then started calling established unions when I realized how difficult it would be. Mostly, they weren't interested. The company had a lot of non-English speakers... probably illegals... who knows. Anyway, the company found out someone was doing this and went around saying they were going to give people lie detector tests. Most of the "American" workers told them to f*ck off, so it didn't go anywhere. This the infamous wildcat strike company? Passed over a wildcat strike without reaction, then the Union committee passed over an unfair labor practice without comment. When was this. Had to be between 76 and sometime in the eighties, because I think this company moved manufacturing to my area of the country sometime in the eighties. And I'm not surprised they did, if what you say is true. Incompetent management and incompetent union committe. I understand you had to join the Union. California is not a right to work state. Yah... nice job actually. Fun except for the ink smell. Point is not moot. Point, stated one more time is that you can move on or move up from any job. The key is to take one in the first place, work well, and build on it, either with that organization within the capacity for promotion or with the next one. Anyone can do that if they "choose" to do so. Ah, but sometimes, in fact most of the time, at a minimum wage job that's just not possible. Anyone cannot do it if they choose anymore than I can fly a kite in the midddle of a busy street... g "Most of the time" ?, Give me some facts to back up another statement grabbed from the air. I went back to visit Steve D., the manager at my below minimum wage job from time to time, as I said, had a great deal of respect for him. All my co-workers gone. All moved on to bigger and better things. Steve used to keep up with most of his ex-employees for a while. My sons all worked entry level jobs, (not minimum, as stated minimum is rarely paid in the poorest state in the nation, moreover, it is rarely paid anywhere), they've moved on and up as have their coworkers. Now I realize, being well versed in statistics when I was a quality manager, these events do not make a statistically relevant sample. You, however, have offered nothing but your opinion as usual. |
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