* Dave wrote, On 3/28/2007 4:52 PM:
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 15:32:56 -0400, Jeff said:

So, you're claiming that Reagan wanted welfare reform but Clinton
actually did it?

Please don't play the "you're claiming" game, Jeff.

What game is that? Are you making a claim or not? I say you're
making a claim, but it simply isn't supported by the facts. Realizing
that you're wrong, you revert to silly attacks. That's the type of
"game" you play.

It's childish and
reminds me of Jon's silly games. My posts have been quite precise on the
point. To repeat, "he finally was dragged to what the Republicans had been
pushing for years before."


You're the one "playing games" Dave. Clinton made a major campaign
pledge, and then made good on it, even though major elements of his
own party were against it. Rather than giving credit where credit is
due, you have to characterize it as being "dragged." Reagan and Bush
Sr may have talked about it, Newt tried to get his version in, but it
was Clinton that won the day, pure and simple. Bill wasn't "dragged,"
Newt was embarrassed.

The simple truth is that the Democratic Party has become the
mainstream party that actually gets things done, like welfare reform
and a balanced budget. The Republican Party can only win by scaring
the uninformed with bogus issues like gay marriage. They dropped the
ball on protecting the country, they wasted American lives in a
foolish war, and time after time have shown themselves to be
thoroughly incompetent. Bush's presidency will go down as the worst
disaster for America since the Great Depression.