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Frank Boettcher wrote: On 27 Mar 2007 09:30:47 -0700, lid (Jonathan Ganz) wrote: I've never hired anyone and paid them just the minimum wage. I've hired dozens, perhaps approaching 100 in the good old days (pre-Bush g). We always paid more. It's expensive but you tend to get better workers. In fact, I can't think of a boss who told me to hire entry level people and pay them at the minimum. Much of the cost of having employees these days is the other costs... ins, workers comp, etc. But, yes, I'm just blathering of course. That's what I said, entry level but well over minimum wage. I've hired lots of people who were both entry level and who would otherwise be paid minimum wage. We never did the latter. And bosses don't tell you to hire at a minimum unless the job is a minimum wage job. If it is not you wouldn't get anyone anyway. Because the economy is good and they don't have to work for minimum. Yes, they do. Bosses tell you the pay range. Lots of places say pay the minimum. I've never worked nor would I work for such a company. Those individuals are not considered "poor" as your response indicated. Yet as one who had to try to hire people, approximately 50-100 per year over a multi-year period to staff my business, I found your comment on the post ridiculous blathering. There are people who choose not to work. There are people who choose not to become educated, even with basic skills. There are people who, when hired, refuse to be trained to do a job. There are homeless people who choose to be homeless. Sorry, but a lot of them are considered poor. Paying more than the minimum required doesn't ensure they're above the poverty line. Why should I care whether or not you like my comment. Sure, there are people who choose not to work or refuse to be trained or whatver, but most people want to work. That argument is as old as the hills but continues to be simplistic and inaccurate. Fortunately, those people are a small percentage, but they make up the core unemployable. They will always exist. Government can do nothing about them, unless you are of the mindset that their "choice" should be supported by tax dollars. Significant phrase... small percentage... and yes, it's better just to support them as dead weight than to let them die. It's the right thing to do... not everything is required to be beholdin to the bottom line. You'll have a hard time talking bad economy around here. We just bagged a Toyota plant. 2000 new direct jobs and another 2000 supporting. Those bad ole Republicans, Senator, House Representive, and particularly, Governer had a lot to do with it. Yeah, were ready to throw them out and change to the Dems. Don't know where "around here" is, but in general, the US economy isn't doing very well... certainly not as well as it could do. -- Capt. JG @@ www.sailnow.com |
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