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John Fereira justifies Steve Chaney, Aaron Kulkis, and everyone else, to defend Mike Cranston
On Mar 21, 2:41 am, (Steve Chaney,
still taunting the happy fun ball) wrote: In , John Fereira wrote: The Original Demon Prince of Absurdity wrote in : On Fri, 16 Mar 2007 14:04:36 -0700, miguel did the cha-cha, and screamed: Sean Monaghan wrote: miguel wrote: Kali wrote: miguel said: : Kadaitcha Gimp Retard He-Bitch wrote: Translation: even though : all kookologists agree that taking usenet to real life is prime : kooksign, that's what I'm trying to accomplish. : Good job there kOOk. miguel So, what are your plans for Steve : Cheney? If I ever meet him, I will put him in the hospital. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^ This is not a flame; this is a clear threat of physical violence. This is something we'd expect from Richard "the St00pid" Bullis, or from Edmond Heinz Wollmann - not the words of a 'marginal kook', or from someone who is merely involved in a Usenet flamewar. Sean, Kali recently stated that she was considered the most reasonable and judicious of the kookologists. If by that she is contrasting herself with you, K-Bitch and ****stain, you can imagine the difficulty I or anybody else might have in giving her any points for that claim. You have no idea of the extent to which Steve Chaney has taken matters to RL over the past 12 years wrt me, and you have no idea of the extent to which his raging insanity has caused him to make unspeakably nasty claims about my children and my grandchild. Who cares? This is usenet. Did you read the first sentence? When matters are taken into real life, why is it so unreasonable to respond in real life? Miguel has merely written on usenet what he would like to do in real life in response to what someone has done to him in real life. This whole "it's only words on a screen" is hogwash because it neglects any context. It's not such a black and white issue. An appropriate response depends on what those words are, and whose screen on which they appear. For example, what if those words happen to contain numbers as well, such as a SSN and credit card information, and those words appear on the screen of identity thieves? Have a read on this identify theft victims story and then tell me that Miguel or any other kook on your list deserves a similar fate? What if the "words on a screen" are a complete fabrication and appear the the screen of your employer, or if you're self employeed, potential customers. Your "logic" applies equally to: a) Aaron Kulkis' death threats at Ondrea and Jeanette for talking about posting his SSNs b) real lifing in general over every possible perceived defamation. Oh I know. It's "different" when it isn't your butt buddy Mike. Aaron Kulkis was Jeanette's obsession and not Ondrea's. It is cute how you are trying to lay Jeanette's actions on Ondrea's doorstep. Words on a screen can have real life impact, and to categorically label someone as a kook because he/she writes on usenet what he would like to do in real life, is absurd. IMHO, the fact that Miguel has been busting the balls and trolling kookologist with great succes is the only reason that he's been nominated for one of your infantile awards. Infantile awards. Hmmm. You used to put great credibility in those "awards" when they were being used against those you didn't like. And so the last surviving sniggler house of cards comes a'tumbling down... That is what a house of cards does. Your point? A decade or more is a long time to hold a grudge. Crash Street Kidd -- Steve -- |
[threat] Nomination - "Miguel" for Bullis Foam Duck #27 {NOMINATION -- Kadaitcha Man for Hammer of Thor}
Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
"TheBookman" wrote Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote: "TheBookman" wrote Bottom line, I wish you well, and hope you manage to repair the damage to your life. shrug I appreciate this, but the damage Snarky did can't be fixed, even if everything else is. If you believe that it cannot be fixed, it cannot be fixed. All that is left for you is to go forward with your life. Best of luck doing so, and if there is anything that I cn do to help, you know where to find me. ESL! You've always been one of the good guys. :) For the record, I am considering releasing Bookman from his promise to Remove Himself from Usenet Altogether. |
[threat] Nomination - "Miguel" for Bullis Foam Duck #27 { NOMINATION -- Kadaitcha Man for Hammer of Thor}
"miguel" wrote in message
Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote: "TheBookman" wrote Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote: "TheBookman" wrote Bottom line, I wish you well, and hope you manage to repair the damage to your life. shrug I appreciate this, but the damage Snarky did can't be fixed, even if everything else is. If you believe that it cannot be fixed, it cannot be fixed. All that is left for you is to go forward with your life. Best of luck doing so, and if there is anything that I cn do to help, you know where to find me. ESL! You've always been one of the good guys. :) For the record, I am considering releasing Bookman from his promise to Remove Himself from Usenet Altogether. Snarky is definitely planning our wedding now. -- Trilby O'Ferrall Happiness limits the amount of suffering one is willing to inflict on others. Phèdre nó Delaunay |
[threat] Nomination - "Miguel" for Bullis Foam Duck #27 { NOMINATION -- Kadaitcha Man for Hammer of Thor}
Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote:
"miguel" wrote in message Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote: "TheBookman" wrote Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote: "TheBookman" wrote Bottom line, I wish you well, and hope you manage to repair the damage to your life. shrug I appreciate this, but the damage Snarky did can't be fixed, even if everything else is. If you believe that it cannot be fixed, it cannot be fixed. All that is left for you is to go forward with your life. Best of luck doing so, and if there is anything that I cn do to help, you know where to find me. ESL! You've always been one of the good guys. :) For the record, I am considering releasing Bookman from his promise to Remove Himself from Usenet Altogether. Snarky is definitely planning our wedding now. You both are just a pair of drama queens. -- Supreme Leader of the Brainwashed Followers of Art Deco "To err is human, to cover it up is Weasel" -- Dogbert |
[threat] Nomination - "Miguel" for Bullis Foam Duck #27 {NOMINATION -- Kadaitcha Man for Hammer of Thor}
Art Deco wrote:
Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote: "miguel" wrote in message Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote: "TheBookman" wrote Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote: "TheBookman" wrote Bottom line, I wish you well, and hope you manage to repair the damage to your life. shrug I appreciate this, but the damage Snarky did can't be fixed, even if everything else is. If you believe that it cannot be fixed, it cannot be fixed. All that is left for you is to go forward with your life. Best of luck doing so, and if there is anything that I cn do to help, you know where to find me. ESL! You've always been one of the good guys. :) For the record, I am considering releasing Bookman from his promise to Remove Himself from Usenet Altogether. Snarky is definitely planning our wedding now. You both are just a pair of drama queens. I think Rhonda Lea is entitled not to be paired up with Snarky anymore. miguel |
[threat] Nomination - "Miguel" for Bullis Foam Duck #27 { NOMINATION -- Kadaitcha Man for Hammer of Thor}
Art Deco Thou arrant coward. If thou dost marry,
I'll give thee this plague for thy dowry, be thou as chaste as ice, as pure as snow, thou shall not escape calummy. Thou lean-witted crafty swearing rascal. Thou monotonic knot-pated. Ye expanded and ye prated: Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote: "miguel" wrote in message Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote: "TheBookman" wrote Rhonda Lea Kirk wrote: "TheBookman" wrote Bottom line, I wish you well, and hope you manage to repair the damage to your life. shrug I appreciate this, but the damage Snarky did can't be fixed, even if everything else is. If you believe that it cannot be fixed, it cannot be fixed. All that is left for you is to go forward with your life. Best of luck doing so, and if there is anything that I cn do to help, you know where to find me. ESL! You've always been one of the good guys. :) For the record, I am considering releasing Bookman from his promise to Remove Himself from Usenet Altogether. Snarky is definitely planning our wedding now. You both are just a pair of drama queens. No. Rhonda's comment is an obvious and logical outcome of something that Snarky wrote. I'm in no position to point the finger of accusation about uncaring, unsympathetic and unthinking self-served justifications for my own behaviour wrt to Rhonda so I won't point that same finger at Snarky. -- alt.usenet.kooks "We are arrant knaves all, believe none of us." Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 1 [129] Hammer of Thor: February 2007. Pierre Salinger Memorial Hook, Line & Sinker: September 2005, April 2006, January 2007. Vescere puter subgalia meis. "Now I know what it is. Now I know what it means when an alt.usenet.kook x-post shows up." AOK in |
[threat] Nomination - "Miguel" for Bullis Foam Duck #27
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miguel wrote: Sean Monaghan wrote: miguel wrote in : Kali wrote: miguel said: : Kadaitcha Gimp Retard He-Bitch wrote: : Translation: even though all kookologists agree that taking usenet : to real life is prime kooksign, that's what I'm trying to : accomplish. : Good job there kOOk. : miguel So, what are your plans for Steve Cheney? If I ever meet him, I will put him in the hospital. ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^^ This is not a flame; this is a clear threat of physical violence. This is something we'd expect from Richard "the St00pid" Bullis, or from Edmond Heinz Wollmann - not the words of a 'marginal kook', or from someone who is merely involved in a Usenet flamewar. Sean, Kali recently stated that she was considered the most reasonable and judicious of the kookologists. If by that she is contrasting herself with you, K-Bitch and ****stain, you can imagine the difficulty I or anybody else might have in giving her any points for that claim. You have no idea of the extent to which Steve Chaney has taken matters to RL over the past 12 years wrt me, and you have no idea of the extent to which his raging insanity has caused him to make unspeakably nasty claims about my children and my grandchild. Charlotte, on the other hand, does. Yep. (But did he ever go after your son? Steve tends to go after girls, especially minor girls, and babies, not fit adult males ;).) If you have any questions about whether Chaney deserves to have his ass kicked, feel free to direct them to her. I can't support the "put him in the hospital", even though you, I, and everyone reading here, including Wonderbra himself, knows that it will never happen, because Steve tucks his tail and runs for his Fort Machismo bunker when he gets called on his ****. Has for decades. For kookologists, Seattle is Steebe's Front Street Gym, his P. F. Chang's. Steve chickened out repeatedly on me offering to stand him a snack at La Bou (local wonderful Viet-French bakery) when I was in town, and I'm Ms. Mild-Mannered Sysadmin Church Lady and was within a local phone call at the time. And unlike Mike (who is a strong man in physically excellent shape), it would be fairly tricky for me to do him physical harm, even were I not in a fully public location and a Nice Lady (tm) to boot. Steve's met me, and he knows that. Definitely "Delicious Crab Wontons". (If you're ever in Sac'to, it's all good at La Bou; I'm especially fond of the ham and cheese croissants.) Remember that this is the same Steve Chaney who just stalked a usenet opponent's uninvolved-in-the-argument minor daughter over Myspace, filed a police report IRL, and published the opponent's uninvolved-in-the-argument ex-spouse's name and place of employment. Who has been bringing off-usenet Real Life stuff in years after the relevant parties have made up with each other. This stuff has happened before, folks, and has happened repeatedly over the years that I've known him. And who has done a lot of crap in the "taking it to real life" or "threatening to take it to real life" - posting addresses (Mike's included - and, yes, it happened first and had RL consequences), trying to get police/authorities involved (remember his ludicrous claims that I'm an embezzler?), trying to screw with peoples' livelihoods, claiming to drive by his opponents' (note the plural) houses, online and offline (that's Real Life) harassment of opponents' (note the plural again) children and grandchildren. Making things up out of thin air. Hiring PIs and search firms to get information on people who are living their own lives without him. Having meltdowns when his behaviour is pointed out to him. Think Chuckles, folks. Although I don't know if Chuckles ever claimed to poison a dog. That's our Steebie. I don't spot him particular "UPA" (note scare quotes) points for getting Migs and Jeem and a few other people riled up by the foul things he pulled with their kids. I think that most (sane) parents would be as fierce, although they might express themselves in different ways. I've seen Mike and Jeem with their kids, and they're great dads. I survived some major deep **** that happened to me when I was around the age of those girls because *my* dad, who I still adore wildly, had my back. So I've been on the "other side" of that kind of bond. It kept me alive so I'm inclined to cut slack ;). In other words, it's probably not how I would have handled it, but I can see where it's coming from. Steve knows that Mike can give it up. He told me so, live, in person. Mike's given it up (for times). But Steve likes the attention. Steve will escalate in increasingly kooky and pathetic ways if he's not getting enough attention, as all kookologists, both old timer and recent, should be perfectly well aware of by now. Charlotte -- |
[threat] Nomination - "Miguel" for Bullis Foam Duck #27
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