To snub or not to snub
 

"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
Currently, I don't use snubbers (e.g., http://tinyurl.com/2bm2g3), but I
see a lot of boats using them. I'm using the standard three line braid
dock line and spring lines, so I don't really see the need, especially
since they apparently degrade rather fast. And, $35 each??

What do you think? Do you use them?


We had them but took the snubber part off since they were annoying..and
left b;lack marks on the gelcoat...would probably make more sense to use
them here where we have tides than it did in Michigan...but then, maybe
not since our boat seemed to catch the wake of the getch of the lake and
they did hjelp with that...for the most part, though, we weren't
impressed...

You aren't supposed to have them close enough to the boat to contact the
gelcoat. I'm surprised you guys could exist on the south side of A-dock
without 'em. We'd never have slept on Mystique without snubbers. And do
you recall the 100mph winds on Memorial Day weekend some years ago? I had
two dock lines on the leeward quarter that both parted during that storm.
The boat next to me had only one line and it didn't part, thanks to a
snubber. I became a believer after that night.

Max

To snub or not to snub
 

"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:

Currently, I don't use snubbers (e.g., http://tinyurl.com/2bm2g3), but I
see a lot of boats using them. I'm using the standard three line braid
dock line and spring lines, so I don't really see the need, especially
since they apparently degrade rather fast. And, $35 each??

What do you think? Do you use them?


We had them but took the snubber part off since they were annoying..and
left b;lack marks on the gelcoat...would probably make more sense to use
them here where we have tides than it did in Michigan...but then, maybe
not since our boat seemed to catch the wake of the getch of the lake and
they did hjelp with that...for the most part, though, we weren't
impressed...



On the gelcoat? All the ones I've seen are no where near the boat...
middle line.

When you're casting off but leaving the lines on the boat..like going to
the gas dock...when you throw the lines on tehy make marks like dark soled
shoes do...needs Soft SCrub to get it off...not while the boat is
suspended between them...

Ours are ten years old or older, and they are still shiny and leave no
marks. An annual wipe with Formula 303 sees to that.

Max

To snub or not to snub
 

"Joe" wrote in message
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On Mar 15, 6:44 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
Currently, I don't use snubbers (e.g.,http://tinyurl.com/2bm2g3), but I
see
a lot of boats using them. I'm using the standard three line braid dock
line
and spring lines, so I don't really see the need, especially since they
apparently degrade rather fast. And, $35 each??

What do you think? Do you use them?

--
"j" ganz

Never used one yet. But I'm not to worried about yanking my cleats
off.
Save your money, just use 3 strand nylon it has plenty of spring.
Snubbers for dock lines are for West Marine, and boatsUS fools.
AKA Bubbles & BB.

You've obviously never been in a situation where the boat is rolling
violently at the dock. Snubbers will keep your lines from parting, not to
mention allowing you to get some sleep at night. When a boat without
snubbers snaps the dockline taut, it tends to roll the occupants of the
v-berth over.

Max

To snub or not to snub
 

"Milton Waddams" wrote in message
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[Default] On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 19:04:54 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

"Milton Waddams" wrote in message
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[Default] On Thu, 15 Mar 2007 20:55:45 -0400, katy
wrote:

Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:

Currently, I don't use snubbers (e.g., http://tinyurl.com/2bm2g3),
but
I
see a lot of boats using them. I'm using the standard three line
braid
dock line and spring lines, so I don't really see the need,
especially
since they apparently degrade rather fast. And, $35 each??

What do you think? Do you use them?


We had them but took the snubber part off since they were
annoying..and
left b;lack marks on the gelcoat...would probably make more sense to
use
them here where we have tides than it did in Michigan...but then,
maybe
not since our boat seemed to catch the wake of the getch of the lake
and
they did hjelp with that...for the most part, though, we weren't
impressed...



On the gelcoat? All the ones I've seen are no where near the boat...
middle
line.

When you're casting off but leaving the lines on the boat..like going to
the gas dock...when you throw the lines on tehy make marks like dark
soled shoes do...needs Soft SCrub to get it off...not while the boat is
suspended between them...

I use sheathed snubbers. The sheath keeps them from getting sun rot
and protects the hull from scuffs. You can make your own out of
sunbrella. Make sure it is longer than the snubber and easy to peel
back for inspection. You can make them as tubes or flat with a velcro
seam.

Milton


Do you have any pictures of them? I'd love to see...


They look just like these ones that anyone can purchase:

http://www.urbanhart.com/shopsite/ro...rotection.html

Milton



Which ones? I don't see anything that would cover a snubber.

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"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:


Currently, I don't use snubbers (e.g., http://tinyurl.com/2bm2g3), but
I see a lot of boats using them. I'm using the standard three line
braid dock line and spring lines, so I don't really see the need,
especially since they apparently degrade rather fast. And, $35 each??

What do you think? Do you use them?


We had them but took the snubber part off since they were annoying..and
left b;lack marks on the gelcoat...would probably make more sense to
use them here where we have tides than it did in Michigan...but then,
maybe not since our boat seemed to catch the wake of the getch of the
lake and they did hjelp with that...for the most part, though, we
weren't impressed...



On the gelcoat? All the ones I've seen are no where near the boat...
middle line.


When you're casting off but leaving the lines on the boat..like going to
the gas dock...when you throw the lines on tehy make marks like dark
soled shoes do...needs Soft SCrub to get it off...not while the boat is
suspended between them...



Ah... I leave mine on the dock. Unfortunately, the marina where I keep
the boat has shackles and no proper cleats.

YUK!!! A Bobsprit dock!


I know. What can I say. Still, it's a better spot than the last place...
much less time to the bay.

It's not a big deal from my perspective. It's actually pretty easy to leave
while single-handing. I don't have to get off the boat to release the lines.


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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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"Joe" wrote in message
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On Mar 15, 10:17 pm, "Joe" wrote:
On Mar 15, 6:44 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:

Currently, I don't use snubbers (e.g.,http://tinyurl.com/2bm2g3), but I
see
a lot of boats using them. I'm using the standard three line braid dock
line
and spring lines, so I don't really see the need, especially since they
apparently degrade rather fast. And, $35 each??

What do you think? Do you use them?

--
"j" ganz

Never used one yet. But I'm not to worried about yanking my cleats
off.
Save your money, just use 3 strand nylon it has plenty of spring.
Snubbers for dock lines are for West Marine, and boatsUS fools.
AKA Bubbles & BB.

Joe

PS.. Splice in a thimble for the shackle.

Joe



Yeah, I need to do that for my own lines. I'm still using the ones that were
there when I brought the boat up.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Currently, I don't use snubbers (e.g., http://tinyurl.com/2bm2g3), but I
see a lot of boats using them. I'm using the standard three line braid
dock line and spring lines, so I don't really see the need, especially
since they apparently degrade rather fast. And, $35 each??

What do you think? Do you use them?

They are an absolute necessity where we are. Fortunately I'm now on the
leeward side of the floating dock from the prevailing winds and seaway.
When a storm kicks up out of the southwest, the long fetch down our lake
can produce some mighty big waves which cause boats on the leeward side of
the dock to roll violently and snap their leeward dock lines violently as
well. Without snubbers, even oversized lines would part in short order, or
cleats would be damaged or pull out of the boats. The snubbers on my
leeward lines has kept them solid and sound for years, and the snubbers
I've been using are at least a decade old. It only takes an annual
wipedown with Formula 303 to preserve them nicely. They are very cheap
insurance against disaster where we are.

Max

I'm in a single berth... barely enough for the 10 foot beam of the boat.

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To snub or not to snub
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
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Currently, I don't use snubbers (e.g., http://tinyurl.com/2bm2g3), but I
see
a lot of boats using them. I'm using the standard three line braid dock
line
and spring lines, so I don't really see the need, especially since they
apparently degrade rather fast. And, $35 each??

What do you think? Do you use them?

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


My marina has made them obligatory this year and says that if owners do not
comply they will come along and fit them at our expense.
I have seen nothing to justify their use. The marina is at the head of a
creek where no power boats come roaring past creating wash and it is quite
free from swell in bad weather.

To snub or not to snub
 

On Mar 15, 11:40 pm, "Maxprop" wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message

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On Mar 15, 6:44 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
Currently, I don't use snubbers (e.g.,http://tinyurl.com/2bm2g3), but I
see
a lot of boats using them. I'm using the standard three line braid dock
line
and spring lines, so I don't really see the need, especially since they
apparently degrade rather fast. And, $35 each??

What do you think? Do you use them?

--
"j" ganz

Never used one yet. But I'm not to worried about yanking my cleats
off.
Save your money, just use 3 strand nylon it has plenty of spring.
Snubbers for dock lines are for West Marine, and boatsUS fools.
AKA Bubbles & BB.

You've obviously never been in a situation where the boat is rolling
violently at the dock. Snubbers will keep your lines from parting, not to
mention allowing you to get some sleep at night. When a boat without
snubbers snaps the dockline taut, it tends to roll the occupants of the
v-berth over.

Max- Hide quoted text -

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Odviously. Who would dock at a place that tosses you out of your bunk?

Joe

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Maxprop wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:

Currently, I don't use snubbers (e.g., http://tinyurl.com/2bm2g3), but I
see a lot of boats using them. I'm using the standard three line braid
dock line and spring lines, so I don't really see the need, especially
since they apparently degrade rather fast. And, $35 each??

What do you think? Do you use them?


We had them but took the snubber part off since they were annoying..and
left b;lack marks on the gelcoat...would probably make more sense to use
them here where we have tides than it did in Michigan...but then, maybe
not since our boat seemed to catch the wake of the getch of the lake and
they did hjelp with that...for the most part, though, we weren't
impressed...


You aren't supposed to have them close enough to the boat to contact the
gelcoat.

Wasn't talking about in use...was talking about when throwing thewm on
the boat when you untie...

I'm surprised you guys could exist on the south side of A-dock
without 'em. We'd never have slept on Mystique without snubbers. And do
you recall the 100mph winds on Memorial Day weekend some years ago?

The storm wher eyour mast was in my cockpit? I remember it vividly...
I had
two dock lines on the leeward quarter that both parted during that storm.
The boat next to me had only one line and it didn't part, thanks to a
snubber. I became a believer after that night.

We did have them...they helped some but not to any great degree...I'm
wondering though if it has something to do with the weight of the
boat...they had no effect on Chanteuse that I could see..seeing thast
she's like a little cork because she's so light, maybe that's why? We've
never snapped a line...but we do use heavier than recommended for size
line and back then double tied and crsoostied and triple tied,. etc....I
love sitting in the still waters now...boat never does anything but go
up and down...

Max