On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:39:14 -0500, Capt. JG wrote
(in article ):

It's not clear who's fault it was, but I think it was the Japanese boat
captain's fault.

The only way that it was the Japanese ships fault was because he drew the
attention of the extremists greenpeace boat. Kind of like saying she deserved
to be raped because of what she was wearing.

This is copied from
http://www.kcpc.usyd.edu.au/discovery/9.5.1/9.5.1_whale.html

So why all this trouble to kill a whale? The simple answer: oil. One large
right whale can provide 25 tons of oil.

The oil from whales can be divided into two catergories: whale and sperm.
Whale oil comes from baleen whales and is edible. Sperm oil comes from sperm
whales and is inedible.

Although the oil is the reason for hunting them, every other bit of the whale
- from flesh to bone - found a use.

The products made from various bits of whale include:
€ lamp oil (from sperm oil)
€ margarine and cooking oil (from whale oil)
€ candles, soaps, cosmetics and perfumes (from sperm oil)
€ corsets and umbrellas (from whalebone)
€ whale-meat for human consumption
€ animal feed (from meat meal)
€ fertiliser (from bone meal)
€ string for tennis racquets (from tendons)

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On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:39:14 -0500, Capt. JG wrote
(in article ):

It's not clear who's fault it was, but I think it was the Japanese boat
captain's fault.

The only way that it was the Japanese ships fault was because he drew the
attention of the extremists greenpeace boat. Kind of like saying she
deserved
to be raped because of what she was wearing.


GP is fairly extreme, but it looked like the GP boat was on starboard, so it
would be up to the whaler to give way initially, and I looks like the GP
boat did attempt to back full astern when the capt realized that the whaler
was not giving way. Of course, I'm making the assumption, which could be
wrong, that the GP capt was telling the truth about the whaler and his own
actions.

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On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:32:31 -0500, Capt. JG wrote
(in article ):

"Mundo" wrote in message
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On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:39:14 -0500, Capt. JG wrote
(in article ):

It's not clear who's fault it was, but I think it was the Japanese boat
captain's fault.

The only way that it was the Japanese ships fault was because he drew the
attention of the extremists greenpeace boat. Kind of like saying she
deserved
to be raped because of what she was wearing.


GP is fairly extreme, but it looked like the GP boat was on starboard, so it
would be up to the whaler to give way initially, and I looks like the GP
boat did attempt to back full astern when the capt realized that the whaler
was not giving way. Of course, I'm making the assumption, which could be
wrong, that the GP capt was telling the truth about the whaler and his own
actions.



The GP boat positioned itself intentionlly to be to starboard to force
another vessel off course and you think this is not only acceptable, but
brave and admirable? So if you where out sailing and I kept forcing you from
a strbd position this would be okay for you?
I am not immpressed Mr. Ganz. You may not massage my prostate. In fact you
may not even rub cream on my cracked feet. Your license is officially revoked
until further notice.

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"Mundo" wrote in message
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On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:32:31 -0500, Capt. JG wrote
(in article ):

"Mundo" wrote in message
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On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:39:14 -0500, Capt. JG wrote
(in article ):

It's not clear who's fault it was, but I think it was the Japanese boat
captain's fault.

The only way that it was the Japanese ships fault was because he drew
the
attention of the extremists greenpeace boat. Kind of like saying she
deserved
to be raped because of what she was wearing.


GP is fairly extreme, but it looked like the GP boat was on starboard, so
it
would be up to the whaler to give way initially, and I looks like the GP
boat did attempt to back full astern when the capt realized that the
whaler
was not giving way. Of course, I'm making the assumption, which could be
wrong, that the GP capt was telling the truth about the whaler and his
own
actions.



The GP boat positioned itself intentionlly to be to starboard to force
another vessel off course and you think this is not only acceptable, but
brave and admirable? So if you where out sailing and I kept forcing you
from
a strbd position this would be okay for you?
I am not immpressed Mr. Ganz. You may not massage my prostate. In fact you
may not even rub cream on my cracked feet. Your license is officially
revoked
until further notice.

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Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass



I saw no mention of this other than your statement saying it's so. I believe
they have the right to make slow passage, but I'll concede that they
probably did position themselves as you suggest. In any case, it's still the
responsibility of the give-way vessel to avoid a collision. From what I've
read, seen, they increased speed not decreased... that's a violation as well
I believe.


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On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 20:43:54 -0500, Capt. JG wrote
(in article ):



My point being that the mission of the GP boat was to disrupt the passage of
the "research" vessel. Now I am not fond of the idea of killing whales
(unless they are gay, young, and christian) but these guys on the "research"
boat are doing a job that some government condones and are in fact poor
working stiffs. If you want to stop whaling you must end the demand for the
products....

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On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 20:43:54 -0500, Capt. JG wrote
(in article ):



My point being that the mission of the GP boat was to disrupt the passage
of
the "research" vessel. Now I am not fond of the idea of killing whales
(unless they are gay, young, and christian) but these guys on the
"research"
boat are doing a job that some government condones and are in fact poor
working stiffs. If you want to stop whaling you must end the demand for
the
products....

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Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass



I agree that they were just working guys, but the argument could be made
that they are also responsible for the killing of the whales... I know, they
would just get fired if they refused, but that usually isn't a good defense.
I don't believe it's much of an issue any more, but I'm not that up on it.
Besides, I don't eat blubber. g

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On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 22:46:38 -0500, Capt. JG wrote
(in article ):

I agree that they were just working guys, but the argument could be made that

they are also responsible for the killing of the whales

The demand for whale products is the only reason there is still whaling. End
the demand and ...........

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On Feb 18, 9:46 pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"Mundo" wrote in message

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On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 20:43:54 -0500, Capt. JG wrote
(in article ):

My point being that the mission of the GP boat was to disrupt the passage
of
the "research" vessel. Now I am not fond of the idea of killing whales
(unless they are gay, young, and christian) but these guys on the
"research"
boat are doing a job that some government condones and are in fact poor
working stiffs. If you want to stop whaling you must end the demand for
the
products....

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Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass

I agree that they were just working guys, but the argument could be made
that they are also responsible for the killing of the whales... I know, they
would just get fired if they refused, but that usually isn't a good defense.
I don't believe it's much of an issue any more, but I'm not that up on it.
Besides, I don't eat blubber. g

If the Japs did not eat blubber either then the ships could not
operate. The big money is in high yen resturants in Tokyo. You're not
a true jap unless you eat whale. It a long standing tradition in
Japan. The oil is sold, but synthetics do a better job for the
applications. s



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"Capt. JG" posted
in alt.sailing.asa on Sun, 18 Feb
2007 17:43:54 -0800:

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On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 14:32:31 -0500, Capt. JG wrote
(in article ):

"Mundo" wrote in message
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On Sun, 18 Feb 2007 13:39:14 -0500, Capt. JG wrote
(in article ):

It's not clear who's fault it was, but I think it was the Japanese boat
captain's fault.

The only way that it was the Japanese ships fault was because he drew
the
attention of the extremists greenpeace boat. Kind of like saying she
deserved
to be raped because of what she was wearing.


GP is fairly extreme, but it looked like the GP boat was on starboard, so
it
would be up to the whaler to give way initially, and I looks like the GP
boat did attempt to back full astern when the capt realized that the
whaler
was not giving way. Of course, I'm making the assumption, which could be
wrong, that the GP capt was telling the truth about the whaler and his
own
actions.



The GP boat positioned itself intentionlly to be to starboard to force
another vessel off course and you think this is not only acceptable, but
brave and admirable? So if you where out sailing and I kept forcing you
from
a strbd position this would be okay for you?
I am not immpressed Mr. Ganz. You may not massage my prostate. In fact you
may not even rub cream on my cracked feet. Your license is officially
revoked
until further notice.

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass



I saw no mention of this other than your statement saying it's so. I believe
they have the right to make slow passage, but I'll concede that they
probably did position themselves as you suggest. In any case, it's still the
responsibility of the give-way vessel to avoid a collision. From what I've
read, seen, they increased speed not decreased... that's a violation as well
I believe.

Ya don't know what the **** you are talking about.

http://www.seashepherd.org/

It wasn't greenpeace that hit the Japanese wahling ship...was a Sea
Shepherd ship.

http://www.theage.com.au/news/nation...405442617.html

http://www.indymedia.org.uk/en/2007/02/362126.html

You are still a cowardly netKKKop'ing censorista ****KKhead Ganz.




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kcannon at insurgent dot org
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Obstinate people can be divded into the opinionated, the ignorant,
and the boorish.
-Aristotle, Nichomachean Ethics, Bk. VII

On Feb 19, 8:38 am, K. A. Cannon wrote:


It wasn't greenpeace that hit the Japanese wahling ship...was a Sea
Shepherd ship.

Hey Jizz breath, If you were doing anything besides being a brain
dead ****tard you would have seen the name of the vessel was the Artic
Summer that rammed the whaler. The Artic Summer is a GreenPeace boat.

Read your own link...what is the name of the boat that the Sea
Shepards collided into a whaler with?

I'm starting to think Jon's not a snitch, and you stupid ****s are
still Neal's little bitch puppets on a string.
Do you ever get any facts together before you start acting like a
retard? Oh sorry maybe it's not an act.

Joe