On Feb 17, 1:09 pm, (Thom Stewart) wrote:
Mundo,
I truly think you are wrongly applying the Peter Principal to John
McCain.

I knew John as a adolescent, when I served his Father as an orderly in
WW2. I wasn't much more than a Kid myself but his family is generations
of very successful men. They are a family dedicated to serving their
country, as leaders. Very successful leaders. Admiral McCain's Staff all
thought well of young John.

Being a Democrat and swearing never to vote for another republican after
I voted for Eisenhower, I would find it hard not to vote for John. He is
a very good man in his own right. He is loyal. He demonstrated his
belief in what's right by serving his interment as a prisoner of war
even through his Father was the last five Star Admiral of the fleet at
the time. They played by the Rules.

Mundo, I think I just convinced myself to vote for John if he runs.

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Well said Thom,

Some people talk alot of ****.. Some people do.

Not one other candidate can say they have given as much to our country
and John has.

Rudy did OK in NYC and IMO would be Number 2.

It's going to be McCain vs Hillery.

Joe

Thom Stewart wrote:
Mundo,
I truly think you are wrongly applying the Peter Principal to John
McCain.

I knew John as a adolescent, when I served his Father as an orderly in
WW2. I wasn't much more than a Kid myself but his family is generations
of very successful men. They are a family dedicated to serving their
country, as leaders. Very successful leaders. Admiral McCain's Staff all
thought well of young John.

Being a Democrat and swearing never to vote for another republican after
I voted for Eisenhower, I would find it hard not to vote for John. He is
a very good man in his own right. He is loyal. He demonstrated his
belief in what's right by serving his interment as a prisoner of war
even through his Father was the last five Star Admiral of the fleet at
the time. They played by the Rules.

Mundo, I think I just convinced myself to vote for John if he runs.













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He is an angry man who responds angrily...I prefer to think that we
would be better offf without that...

On Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:09:01 -0500, Thom Stewart wrote
(in article ):

Mundo,
I truly think you are wrongly applying the Peter Principal to John
McCain.

I knew John as a adolescent, when I served his Father as an orderly in
WW2. I wasn't much more than a Kid myself but his family is generations
of very successful men. They are a family dedicated to serving their
country, as leaders. Very successful leaders. Admiral McCain's Staff all
thought well of young John.

Being a Democrat and swearing never to vote for another republican after
I voted for Eisenhower, I would find it hard not to vote for John. He is
a very good man in his own right. He is loyal. He demonstrated his
belief in what's right by serving his interment as a prisoner of war
even through his Father was the last five Star Admiral of the fleet at
the time. They played by the Rules.

Mundo, I think I just convinced myself to vote for John if he runs.













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http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage


I do not deny he is a good man.. just not presidential... I also think he is
the perfect example of the peter principle. The mcCain bus should stop where
it is.

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"Mundo" wrote in message
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:34:45 -0500, katy wrote
(in article ):

Joe wrote:
http://www.johnmccain.com/

Joe

no thanks...it has a name I don't like in the title...

He served his country and paid dearly for it. He still serves his country.
I
like the guy but he is not presidential material or vice presidential in
fact. He is a decent guy who proves the point of the peter principle.
Anyone
still recall that early 80s read?

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I like McCain, and I think he would tend to run a decent campain, but I
don't think he's the best choice. I don't know who is the best choice right
now. I like Hillary because we would get a two-fer. I like Obama, but he's
kinda young. I like Edwards, but I don't know if he can get all the way by
actually being honest. I don't like Rudy as President... I think he should
have been NYC mayor again. He was a great mayor. Mit Romney has a great
name, but is very, very cozy with the religious right (I mean who else do
they have?).


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Capt. JG wrote:
"Mundo" wrote in message
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:34:45 -0500, katy wrote
(in article ):


Joe wrote:

http://www.johnmccain.com/

Joe


no thanks...it has a name I don't like in the title...

He served his country and paid dearly for it. He still serves his country.
I
like the guy but he is not presidential material or vice presidential in
fact. He is a decent guy who proves the point of the peter principle.
Anyone
still recall that early 80s read?

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass




I like McCain, and I think he would tend to run a decent campain, but I
don't think he's the best choice. I don't know who is the best choice right
now. I like Hillary because we would get a two-fer. I like Obama, but he's
kinda young. I like Edwards, but I don't know if he can get all the way by
actually being honest. I don't like Rudy as President... I think he should
have been NYC mayor again. He was a great mayor. Mit Romney has a great
name, but is very, very cozy with the religious right (I mean who else do
they have?).


Religious right? He's a Mormon, isn't he? They're conservative but
certainly not the same way as the good old died int eh wool Falwell
followers...the Romney family has a good reputation in Michigan...his
Dad was a great governor...too bad Mit didn't try for it and get rid of
that loser Granholm...

"katy" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
"Mundo" wrote in message
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On Fri, 16 Feb 2007 22:34:45 -0500, katy wrote
(in article ):


Joe wrote:

http://www.johnmccain.com/

Joe


no thanks...it has a name I don't like in the title...

He served his country and paid dearly for it. He still serves his
country. I
like the guy but he is not presidential material or vice presidential in
fact. He is a decent guy who proves the point of the peter principle.
Anyone
still recall that early 80s read?

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass




I like McCain, and I think he would tend to run a decent campain, but I
don't think he's the best choice. I don't know who is the best choice
right now. I like Hillary because we would get a two-fer. I like Obama,
but he's kinda young. I like Edwards, but I don't know if he can get all
the way by actually being honest. I don't like Rudy as President... I
think he should have been NYC mayor again. He was a great mayor. Mit
Romney has a great name, but is very, very cozy with the religious right
(I mean who else do they have?).


Religious right? He's a Mormon, isn't he? They're conservative but
certainly not the same way as the good old died int eh wool Falwell
followers...the Romney family has a good reputation in Michigan...his Dad
was a great governor...too bad Mit didn't try for it and get rid of that
loser Granholm...


He is courting the religious right... he's the only game in town, since they
hate McCain and Rudy.


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"katy" wrote in message
...

Religious right? He's a Mormon, isn't he? They're conservative but
certainly not the same way as the good old died int eh wool Falwell
followers...the Romney family has a good reputation in Michigan...his Dad
was a great governor...too bad Mit didn't try for it and get rid of that
loser Granholm...

I'm convinced that Michigan deserves what it got. Why in God's name they
re-elected Granholm is a complete mystery to me. She's done nothing but
drive the state into ruin, bankrupting just about everything, putting public
education on the skids, and everything she's proposed so far in her second
term sounds more like voodoo politics than reality. She'll have to raise
taxes--just about every variety of them--to keep the state from going under.
Real estate values are plummeting. No doubt the UAW vote was the deciding
factor, but the auto industry in the state has done nothing but decline
since she took office, and more plants will be shut down this year. Are
those UAW folks just plain idiots? But they voted for her and they're stuck
with her for four more years. God have mercy on their souls. Stupid is as
stupid does.

Max

"Capt. JG" wrote in message

Mit Romney has a great name, but is very, very cozy with the religious
right (I mean who else do they have?).

The bulk of this country. The so-called religious right is actually a very
small extremist percentage of the overall conservative base. They are the
right-wing equivalent of the far left-wing, ala Michael Moore, Barbara
Streisand, George Clooney, Al Franken, Ward Churchill et. al, ad nauseum.

In the same way that the Democrat candidate won't do anything to alienate
the far left-wing wackos, the GOP candidate won't alienate the religious
right-wing. Both candidates may actually pander to the extremes a little,
but each candidate's core message had better be to the center of the country
or he's/she's toast on a stick.

In other words, Jon, you won't like even your Democrat candidate, because
you're a far-leftist and he/she isn't about to speak *only* to you and your
ilk. Look what doing that did for John Kerry. You might be wise to get
into Ralph Nader's camp. Now there is a genuine left-wing wacko, like
yourself.

And I mean that in only the nicest possible way.

Max

"Maxprop" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message

Mit Romney has a great name, but is very, very cozy with the religious
right (I mean who else do they have?).

The bulk of this country. The so-called religious right is actually a
very small extremist percentage of the overall conservative base. They
are the right-wing equivalent of the far left-wing, ala Michael Moore,
Barbara Streisand, George Clooney, Al Franken, Ward Churchill et. al, ad
nauseum.

In the same way that the Democrat candidate won't do anything to alienate
the far left-wing wackos, the GOP candidate won't alienate the religious
right-wing. Both candidates may actually pander to the extremes a little,
but each candidate's core message had better be to the center of the
country or he's/she's toast on a stick.

In other words, Jon, you won't like even your Democrat candidate, because
you're a far-leftist and he/she isn't about to speak *only* to you and
your ilk. Look what doing that did for John Kerry. You might be wise to
get into Ralph Nader's camp. Now there is a genuine left-wing wacko, like
yourself.

And I mean that in only the nicest possible way.

Max


I'm sure you do. g ------

Unfortunately, the RR have a lot more power than their numbers due to some
really amazing marketing from the likes of Karl (Actung) Rove and people
like him.

I'm having trouble finding any of the candidates who are actually pandering
to the exteme left... the Chomsky crowd for lack of a better definition. I
agree that Moore and others you mention are definitely left of center, but I
don't see any of the Dem candidates "cozying up" to them. Most of them are
interested in the center game, as are most of the Republican candidates.
Romney is particularly attractive to the RR, however, because of his
flip-flop on things like abortion rights.

And, just so we're clear, I'm not a left-wing wacko. I'm just a liberal on
social policies and far more conservative than Bush on economic policies.

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On Feb 17, 6:11 am, "Maxprop" wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
Mit Romney has a great name, but is very, very cozy with the religious
right (I mean who else do they have?).

The bulk of this country. The so-called religious right is actually a very
small extremist percentage of the overall conservative base. They are the
right-wing equivalent of the far left-wing, ala Michael Moore, Barbara
Streisand, George Clooney, Al Franken,WardChurchillet. al, ad nauseum.

Ward Churchill is a Republican.