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David January 29th 07 04:40 AM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 
I have never sailed before, although sailing around the world is one
of my dreams that I want to accomplish in my life. I am 21 years old,
and I want to know if this is a dream I can pursue or something far-
fetched and non-possible.

I live in Ohio - so no oceans near by. Owning a large sail boat would
seem almost ridiculous. Is there a way I can rent a sail-boat, or any
other alternative to making my trip that would possibly last anywhere
from 6 months to 2 years?

Cost -- Is this something that would quite definately cost $200,000
just for the boat alone? And the difficulty of sailing around the
world? (Making plenty of stops to visit places, of course). I wouldn't
want to bring my wife if it would be something extremely dangerous.

If anyone can point my to some information I can read about, I would
greatly appreciate it!


Maxprop January 29th 07 05:29 AM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 

"David" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have never sailed before, although sailing around the world is one
of my dreams that I want to accomplish in my life. I am 21 years old,
and I want to know if this is a dream I can pursue or something far-
fetched and non-possible.

I live in Ohio - so no oceans near by. Owning a large sail boat would
seem almost ridiculous. Is there a way I can rent a sail-boat, or any
other alternative to making my trip that would possibly last anywhere
from 6 months to 2 years?

Cost -- Is this something that would quite definately cost $200,000
just for the boat alone? And the difficulty of sailing around the
world? (Making plenty of stops to visit places, of course). I wouldn't
want to bring my wife if it would be something extremely dangerous.

If anyone can point my to some information I can read about, I would
greatly appreciate it!


Some, if not all, of your conclusions above are in error, David. You need
to do some extensive research (reading) before drawing any further
conclusions. My recommendations are any books by Lin and Larry Pardey, Eric
and Susan Hiscock, or the myriad other circumnavigators who've also been
gifted with the ability to be prosaic. Your answers aren't here.

Max



Mundo January 29th 07 06:25 AM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 00:29:05 -0500, Maxprop wrote
(in article k.net):


"David" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have never sailed before, although sailing around the world is one
of my dreams that I want to accomplish in my life. I am 21 years old,
and I want to know if this is a dream I can pursue or something far-
fetched and non-possible.

I live in Ohio - so no oceans near by. Owning a large sail boat would
seem almost ridiculous. Is there a way I can rent a sail-boat, or any
other alternative to making my trip that would possibly last anywhere
from 6 months to 2 years?

Cost -- Is this something that would quite definately cost $200,000
just for the boat alone? And the difficulty of sailing around the
world? (Making plenty of stops to visit places, of course). I wouldn't
want to bring my wife if it would be something extremely dangerous.

If anyone can point my to some information I can read about, I would
greatly appreciate it!


Some, if not all, of your conclusions above are in error, David. You need
to do some extensive research (reading) before drawing any further
conclusions. My recommendations are any books by Lin and Larry Pardey, Eric
and Susan Hiscock, or the myriad other circumnavigators who've also been
gifted with the ability to be prosaic. Your answers aren't here.

Max



Don't listen to Max... Follow your gut feeling. You will get the hang of it.
This is one of those do it once and your an expert categories. As a patriotic
American, I have learned that facts are for sissies. You should go with your
gut instinct. You can buy a nice Macgregor 26 for 21k.
http://www.macgregor26.com/
Did I mention that this yacht sleeps 6?

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass


Capt. JG January 29th 07 06:53 AM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 
"David" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have never sailed before, although sailing around the world is one
of my dreams that I want to accomplish in my life. I am 21 years old,
and I want to know if this is a dream I can pursue or something far-
fetched and non-possible.


Absolutely. Do some reading at the library. You'll find tons of info. I'm
betting there are some places to sail in Ohio, which will give you the
basics.


I live in Ohio - so no oceans near by. Owning a large sail boat would
seem almost ridiculous. Is there a way I can rent a sail-boat, or any
other alternative to making my trip that would possibly last anywhere
from 6 months to 2 years?


No, not renting. However, you could sign on to crew on someone else's boat.
There are lots of venues for this sort of experience, but I'd suggest
learning to sail (anything) first.

Cost -- Is this something that would quite definately cost $200,000
just for the boat alone? And the difficulty of sailing around the
world? (Making plenty of stops to visit places, of course). I wouldn't
want to bring my wife if it would be something extremely dangerous.


No. People circumnavigate on far less, tiny boats, minimal gear and gizmos,
and live on just a few dollars a day. Danger is inherent in all activities.
You can mitigate some of it, perhaps most of it, with good planning and
training. Don't forget to have your wife learn to be your equal, as far as
boat handling goes. The last thing you want to do is to have to rely on
someone who is incompetent.

If anyone can point my to some information I can read about, I would
greatly appreciate it!


There are so many resources available, that you'd best be served by
googling. Then, get a few books. Then, learn to sail. If after all that,
you're still interested, you can proceed to crew on others' boats. Then,
perhaps buy a boat. The more boats you sail on, the better you'll understand
what you want and for what purpose.

My first boat was a Sunfish. I owned other boats in between that and the
Sabre 30 I now own, and I'll probably be getting a second, larger boat in
the next few months, which will be more in line with my needs/wants.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Scout January 29th 07 09:30 AM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"David" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have never sailed before, although sailing around the world is one
of my dreams that I want to accomplish in my life. I am 21 years old,
and I want to know if this is a dream I can pursue or something far-
fetched and non-possible.


Absolutely. Do some reading at the library. You'll find tons of info. I'm
betting there are some places to sail in Ohio, which will give you the
basics.


I live in Ohio - so no oceans near by. Owning a large sail boat would
seem almost ridiculous. Is there a way I can rent a sail-boat, or any
other alternative to making my trip that would possibly last anywhere
from 6 months to 2 years?


No, not renting. However, you could sign on to crew on someone else's
boat. There are lots of venues for this sort of experience, but I'd
suggest learning to sail (anything) first.

Cost -- Is this something that would quite definately cost $200,000
just for the boat alone? And the difficulty of sailing around the
world? (Making plenty of stops to visit places, of course). I wouldn't
want to bring my wife if it would be something extremely dangerous.


No. People circumnavigate on far less, tiny boats, minimal gear and
gizmos, and live on just a few dollars a day. Danger is inherent in all
activities. You can mitigate some of it, perhaps most of it, with good
planning and training. Don't forget to have your wife learn to be your
equal, as far as boat handling goes. The last thing you want to do is to
have to rely on someone who is incompetent.

If anyone can point my to some information I can read about, I would
greatly appreciate it!


There are so many resources available, that you'd best be served by
googling. Then, get a few books. Then, learn to sail. If after all that,
you're still interested, you can proceed to crew on others' boats. Then,
perhaps buy a boat. The more boats you sail on, the better you'll
understand what you want and for what purpose.

My first boat was a Sunfish. I owned other boats in between that and the
Sabre 30 I now own, and I'll probably be getting a second, larger boat in
the next few months, which will be more in line with my needs/wants.



JG,
you're getting rid of your new boat already? You don't like it?
Scout



Joe January 29th 07 01:30 PM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 


On Jan 29, 3:30 am, "Scout" wrote:


You don't like it?

Just a stepping stone I'm guessing.

Joe


katy January 29th 07 02:36 PM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 
David wrote:
I have never sailed before, although sailing around the world is one
of my dreams that I want to accomplish in my life. I am 21 years old,
and I want to know if this is a dream I can pursue or something far-
fetched and non-possible.

I live in Ohio - so no oceans near by. Owning a large sail boat would
seem almost ridiculous. Is there a way I can rent a sail-boat, or any
other alternative to making my trip that would possibly last anywhere
from 6 months to 2 years?

Cost -- Is this something that would quite definately cost $200,000
just for the boat alone? And the difficulty of sailing around the
world? (Making plenty of stops to visit places, of course). I wouldn't
want to bring my wife if it would be something extremely dangerous.

If anyone can point my to some information I can read about, I would
greatly appreciate it!

Read Tanja Aebi's book first....it's dated now but still an accurate
rendition of that sort of endeavor and she was totally unexperienced
when she left...and no..there is noone in their right mind who would
rent a sailboat to someone with no experince (except maybe down in the
Caribean for charter...) 6 months? you'd never do it, especially if you
stopped here and there...and you can get a big boat and keep it on Lake
Erie..plenty of people sail out of Snadusky/Toledo area...

Joe January 29th 07 03:51 PM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 


On Jan 28, 10:40 pm, "David" wrote:
I have never sailed before, although sailing around the world is one
of my dreams that I want to accomplish in my life. I am 21 years old,
and I want to know if this is a dream I can pursue or something far-
fetched and non-possible.


http://www.donnalange.com/


Capt. JG January 29th 07 05:42 PM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 
"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"David" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have never sailed before, although sailing around the world is one
of my dreams that I want to accomplish in my life. I am 21 years old,
and I want to know if this is a dream I can pursue or something far-
fetched and non-possible.


Absolutely. Do some reading at the library. You'll find tons of info. I'm
betting there are some places to sail in Ohio, which will give you the
basics.


I live in Ohio - so no oceans near by. Owning a large sail boat would
seem almost ridiculous. Is there a way I can rent a sail-boat, or any
other alternative to making my trip that would possibly last anywhere
from 6 months to 2 years?


No, not renting. However, you could sign on to crew on someone else's
boat. There are lots of venues for this sort of experience, but I'd
suggest learning to sail (anything) first.

Cost -- Is this something that would quite definately cost $200,000
just for the boat alone? And the difficulty of sailing around the
world? (Making plenty of stops to visit places, of course). I wouldn't
want to bring my wife if it would be something extremely dangerous.


No. People circumnavigate on far less, tiny boats, minimal gear and
gizmos, and live on just a few dollars a day. Danger is inherent in all
activities. You can mitigate some of it, perhaps most of it, with good
planning and training. Don't forget to have your wife learn to be your
equal, as far as boat handling goes. The last thing you want to do is to
have to rely on someone who is incompetent.

If anyone can point my to some information I can read about, I would
greatly appreciate it!


There are so many resources available, that you'd best be served by
googling. Then, get a few books. Then, learn to sail. If after all that,
you're still interested, you can proceed to crew on others' boats. Then,
perhaps buy a boat. The more boats you sail on, the better you'll
understand what you want and for what purpose.

My first boat was a Sunfish. I owned other boats in between that and the
Sabre 30 I now own, and I'll probably be getting a second, larger boat in
the next few months, which will be more in line with my needs/wants.



JG,
you're getting rid of your new boat already? You don't like it?
Scout




Nope... g


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG January 29th 07 05:42 PM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 
"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"David" wrote in message
oups.com...
I have never sailed before, although sailing around the world is one
of my dreams that I want to accomplish in my life. I am 21 years old,
and I want to know if this is a dream I can pursue or something far-
fetched and non-possible.


Absolutely. Do some reading at the library. You'll find tons of info. I'm
betting there are some places to sail in Ohio, which will give you the
basics.


I live in Ohio - so no oceans near by. Owning a large sail boat would
seem almost ridiculous. Is there a way I can rent a sail-boat, or any
other alternative to making my trip that would possibly last anywhere
from 6 months to 2 years?


No, not renting. However, you could sign on to crew on someone else's
boat. There are lots of venues for this sort of experience, but I'd
suggest learning to sail (anything) first.

Cost -- Is this something that would quite definately cost $200,000
just for the boat alone? And the difficulty of sailing around the
world? (Making plenty of stops to visit places, of course). I wouldn't
want to bring my wife if it would be something extremely dangerous.


No. People circumnavigate on far less, tiny boats, minimal gear and
gizmos, and live on just a few dollars a day. Danger is inherent in all
activities. You can mitigate some of it, perhaps most of it, with good
planning and training. Don't forget to have your wife learn to be your
equal, as far as boat handling goes. The last thing you want to do is to
have to rely on someone who is incompetent.

If anyone can point my to some information I can read about, I would
greatly appreciate it!


There are so many resources available, that you'd best be served by
googling. Then, get a few books. Then, learn to sail. If after all that,
you're still interested, you can proceed to crew on others' boats. Then,
perhaps buy a boat. The more boats you sail on, the better you'll
understand what you want and for what purpose.

My first boat was a Sunfish. I owned other boats in between that and the
Sabre 30 I now own, and I'll probably be getting a second, larger boat in
the next few months, which will be more in line with my needs/wants.



JG,
you're getting rid of your new boat already? You don't like it?
Scout




What I was trying to say is that no, I'm not getting rid of my Sabre. g


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG January 29th 07 05:43 PM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 
"katy" wrote in message
...
David wrote:
I have never sailed before, although sailing around the world is one of
my dreams that I want to accomplish in my life. I am 21 years old, and I
want to know if this is a dream I can pursue or something far-
fetched and non-possible.

I live in Ohio - so no oceans near by. Owning a large sail boat would
seem almost ridiculous. Is there a way I can rent a sail-boat, or any
other alternative to making my trip that would possibly last anywhere
from 6 months to 2 years?

Cost -- Is this something that would quite definately cost $200,000 just
for the boat alone? And the difficulty of sailing around the world?
(Making plenty of stops to visit places, of course). I wouldn't want to
bring my wife if it would be something extremely dangerous.

If anyone can point my to some information I can read about, I would
greatly appreciate it!

Read Tanja Aebi's book first....it's dated now but still an accurate
rendition of that sort of endeavor and she was totally unexperienced when
she left...and no..there is noone in their right mind who would rent a
sailboat to someone with no experince (except maybe down in the Caribean
for charter...) 6 months? you'd never do it, especially if you stopped
here and there...and you can get a big boat and keep it on Lake
Erie..plenty of people sail out of Snadusky/Toledo area...



Yeah, living on the walls, was one of my favorite lines...


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Ringmaster January 29th 07 05:46 PM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 


On Jan 28, 11:40?pm, "David" wrote:
I have never sailed before, although sailing around the world is one
of my dreams that I want to accomplish in my life. I am 21 years old,
and I want to know if this is a dream I can pursue or something far-
fetched and non-possible..


David, with all due respect anything is possible but having spent
considerable time at sea in the Navy it's my opinion that sailing
around the world on anything less than a cruise ship is idiotic. You
can't imagine what wind and sea conditions can get like when it's
bad. I have never seen a film or video that accurately portrays what
big seas really look like. Move closer to the water, buy a boat and
enjoy costal cruising.


sailirc January 30th 07 12:57 AM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 
exactly and the sharks are smaller to

NH_/)_

"Ringmaster" wrote in message
ups.com...


On Jan 28, 11:40?pm, "David" wrote:
I have never sailed before, although sailing around the world is one
of my dreams that I want to accomplish in my life. I am 21 years old,
and I want to know if this is a dream I can pursue or something far-
fetched and non-possible..


David, with all due respect anything is possible but having spent
considerable time at sea in the Navy it's my opinion that sailing
around the world on anything less than a cruise ship is idiotic. You
can't imagine what wind and sea conditions can get like when it's
bad. I have never seen a film or video that accurately portrays what
big seas really look like. Move closer to the water, buy a boat and
enjoy costal cruising.




Capt. JG January 30th 07 01:19 AM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 
"Ringmaster" wrote in message
ups.com...


On Jan 28, 11:40?pm, "David" wrote:
I have never sailed before, although sailing around the world is one
of my dreams that I want to accomplish in my life. I am 21 years old,
and I want to know if this is a dream I can pursue or something far-
fetched and non-possible..


David, with all due respect anything is possible but having spent
considerable time at sea in the Navy it's my opinion that sailing
around the world on anything less than a cruise ship is idiotic. You
can't imagine what wind and sea conditions can get like when it's
bad. I have never seen a film or video that accurately portrays what
big seas really look like. Move closer to the water, buy a boat and
enjoy costal cruising.



Well, I think there's a huge difference between having to go (what the Navy
does) and wanting to go and being smart about when you go.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




sailirc January 30th 07 01:35 AM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
"Ringmaster" wrote in message
ups.com...


On Jan 28, 11:40?pm, "David" wrote:
I have never sailed before, although sailing around the world is one
of my dreams that I want to accomplish in my life. I am 21 years old,
and I want to know if this is a dream I can pursue or something far-
fetched and non-possible..


David, with all due respect anything is possible but having spent
considerable time at sea in the Navy it's my opinion that sailing
around the world on anything less than a cruise ship is idiotic. You
can't imagine what wind and sea conditions can get like when it's
bad. I have never seen a film or video that accurately portrays what
big seas really look like. Move closer to the water, buy a boat and
enjoy costal cruising.



Well, I think there's a huge difference between having to go (what the
Navy does) and wanting to go and being smart about when you go.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Thinking about someone sailing with no experience to deep waters is crazy.
with nobody else? All I invasion is someone falling overboard in rough
waters hooked to a tether dragging behind the boat as shark bait lol. It
would be better for him to charter a world trip with a experienced Capt.
and other sail boats. Then also with no sailing at all he may get sick Some
people just can not hack it. For someone new to the whole idea try a
charter first. There is a big difference between a Navy cruiser and a small
sailing craft.



JimC January 30th 07 02:03 AM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 


Mundo wrote:


Don't listen to Max... Follow your gut feeling. You will get the hang of it.
This is one of those do it once and your an expert categories. As a patriotic
American, I have learned that facts are for sissies. You should go with your
gut instinct. You can buy a nice Macgregor 26 for 21k.
http://www.macgregor26.com/
Did I mention that this yacht sleeps 6?


I agree with a few aspects of what Mundo was saying ("follow your
dream", etc.), but I don't think you need to start out with a high-end,
complicated, high-tech boat such as the MacGregor 26. - Start with
an Island Packet, Swan, Valiant, Sabre, or the like, and then, when you
feel confident that you have mastered the basics, you might be ready to
move up to a MacGregor.

Jim

Capt. JG January 30th 07 02:06 AM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 
"JimC" wrote in message
. ..


Mundo wrote:


Don't listen to Max... Follow your gut feeling. You will get the hang of
it. This is one of those do it once and your an expert categories. As a
patriotic American, I have learned that facts are for sissies. You should
go with your gut instinct. You can buy a nice Macgregor 26 for 21k.
http://www.macgregor26.com/
Did I mention that this yacht sleeps 6?


I agree with a few aspects of what Mundo was saying ("follow your dream",
etc.), but I don't think you need to start out with a high-end,
complicated, high-tech boat such as the MacGregor 26. - Start with an
Island Packet, Swan, Valiant, Sabre, or the like, and then, when you feel
confident that you have mastered the basics, you might be ready to move up
to a MacGregor.

Jim



And we thought you were totally devoid of humor!


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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Nellen MacArthur January 30th 07 03:38 AM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 

"JimC" wrote in message
. ..

Start with
an Island Packet, Swan, Valiant, Sabre, or the like, and

then, when you
can't stand sailing anymore and want to become a

powerboater
buy a Mac26M. (with the big motor of course)

Jim



What stupid advice!

Nelly



JimC January 30th 07 04:52 AM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 


Nellen MacArthur wrote:

"JimC" wrote in message
. ..

Start with
an Island Packet, Swan, Valiant, Sabre, or the like, and


then, when you have learned what you can from it, take the leap and move up to a Mac26M.


You will then be able to experience everything that sailing has to
offer, and you'll

appreciate it even more from your prior experience on conventional,
albeit dull boats.





What stupid advice!

Nelly


What are you talking about Nell? It's quite logical that he should start
with a good, but conventional boat, and then move up to a Mac. - Save
the best for last.

Jim

Capt. JG January 30th 07 04:59 AM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 
"JimC" wrote in message
. ..


What are you talking about Nell? It's quite logical that he should start
with a good, but conventional boat, and then move up to a Mac. - Save the
best for last.

Jim



Got any pictures of your boat while sailing her yet? Given your excellent
sailing credentials, it should be hard to do.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Maxprop January 30th 07 05:01 AM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message

My first boat was a Sunfish.


And he circumnavigated in it. Twice.

See, anything is possible.

Max



Maxprop January 30th 07 05:03 AM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message

I owned other boats in between that and the Sabre 30 I now own, and I'll
probably be getting a second, larger boat in the next few months, which
will be more in line with my needs/wants.


What's wrong with the "new" Sabre? Looks like a fine boat to me.

Max



katy January 30th 07 05:43 AM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 
Nellen MacArthur wrote:
"JimC" wrote in message
. ..

Start with
an Island Packet, Swan, Valiant, Sabre, or the like, and


then, when you

can't stand sailing anymore and want to become a


powerboater

buy a Mac26M. (with the big motor of course)

Jim




What stupid advice!

Nelly


You forgot to say "duh"....

Capt. JG January 30th 07 06:34 AM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 
"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message

My first boat was a Sunfish.


And he circumnavigated in it. Twice.

See, anything is possible.

Max



Only once, and it had an 80 hp outboard just like Jim's Mac.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Capt. JG January 30th 07 06:37 AM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 
"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message

I owned other boats in between that and the Sabre 30 I now own, and I'll
probably be getting a second, larger boat in the next few months, which
will be more in line with my needs/wants.


What's wrong with the "new" Sabre? Looks like a fine boat to me.

Max



Well, I'm not going to sell it. I use it mostly for day sailing, and it's
main limitation is evening/night time comfort for more than a couple of days
for two people, especially when you have to meet clients in decent clothes.
We'll see. I haven't made any decisions yet, but do have a couple of
prospects.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Scotty January 30th 07 02:03 PM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 

"katy" wrote in message
...
Nellen MacArthur wrote:
"JimC" wrote in message
. ..

Start with
an Island Packet, Swan, Valiant, Sabre, or the like, and


then, when you

can't stand sailing anymore and want to become a


powerboater

buy a Mac26M. (with the big motor of course)

Jim




What stupid advice!

Nelly


You forgot to say "duh"....


Jim says it enough.



Mundo January 30th 07 05:41 PM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:46:06 -0500, Ringmaster wrote
(in article . com):



On Jan 28, 11:40?pm, "David" wrote:
I have never sailed before, although sailing around the world is one
of my dreams that I want to accomplish in my life. I am 21 years old,
and I want to know if this is a dream I can pursue or something far-
fetched and non-possible..


David, with all due respect anything is possible but having spent
considerable time at sea in the Navy it's my opinion that sailing
around the world on anything less than a cruise ship is idiotic. You
can't imagine what wind and sea conditions can get like when it's
bad. I have never seen a film or video that accurately portrays what
big seas really look like. Move closer to the water, buy a boat and
enjoy costal cruising.


Having spent weeks at a time (2-5 weeks trips) offshore in small boats
(50-90ft) for 20 years, I have to agree with Loco. Much nicer to make port
every night or couple of days. I would like to take that trip from Clipper
Lines from southeast asia to the med sometime. First class all the way. The
price is around 10k for the whole passage. Half the price of a mac 26.

--
Mundo, The Captain who is a bully and an ass


JimC January 30th 07 09:09 PM

Sailing Around the World: Difficulty
 


Capt. JG wrote:
"JimC" wrote in message
. ..


What are you talking about Nell? It's quite logical that he should start
with a good, but conventional boat, and then move up to a Mac. - Save the
best for last.

Jim




Got any pictures of your boat while sailing her yet? Given your excellent
sailing credentials, it should be hard to do.

Capt., are quite right when you say it should be hard for me to take
pictures. - I'm usually sailing solo, so I can't very well take photos
of the boat other than pictures of the deck, etc. Also, it's cold as
h____ these days, and I really don't enjoy getting out there in this
weather. Hopefully I'll be out again in February.

Jim


Capt. JG January 30th 07 09:54 PM

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"JimC" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
"JimC" wrote in message
. ..


What are you talking about Nell? It's quite logical that he should start
with a good, but conventional boat, and then move up to a Mac. - Save the
best for last.

Jim




Got any pictures of your boat while sailing her yet? Given your excellent
sailing credentials, it should be hard to do.

Capt., are quite right when you say it should be hard for me to take
pictures. - I'm usually sailing solo, so I can't very well take photos of
the boat other than pictures of the deck, etc. Also, it's cold as h____
these days, and I really don't enjoy getting out there in this weather.
Hopefully I'll be out again in February.

Jim



Well, I single-hand all the time, and I don't have trouble taking pictures
of me and the boat. It's cold here also. I'm sailing on Thursday.


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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Maxprop January 31st 07 02:29 AM

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"katy" wrote in message
...
Nellen MacArthur wrote:
"JimC" wrote in message
. ..

Start with
an Island Packet, Swan, Valiant, Sabre, or the like, and


then, when you

can't stand sailing anymore and want to become a


powerboater

buy a Mac26M. (with the big motor of course)

Jim




What stupid advice!

Nelly


You forgot to say "duh"....


Neal has posted too much as "Ellen" to be consistent. He's going to have to
find a new puppet soon.

Max



Ellen MacArthur January 31st 07 02:38 AM

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"Maxprop" wrote
Neal has posted too much as "Ellen" to be consistent. He's going to have to find a new puppet soon.


Duh! Your talking to Nellen MacArthur. That's a Scotty sock puppet. Where have
you been, Maxprop?

Cheers,
Ellen



Capt. JG January 31st 07 03:34 AM

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
link.net...

"katy" wrote in message
...
Nellen MacArthur wrote:
"JimC" wrote in message
. ..

Start with
an Island Packet, Swan, Valiant, Sabre, or the like, and

then, when you

can't stand sailing anymore and want to become a

powerboater

buy a Mac26M. (with the big motor of course)

Jim



What stupid advice!

Nelly


You forgot to say "duh"....


Neal has posted too much as "Ellen" to be consistent. He's going to have
to find a new puppet soon.

Max



It's not a problem. My plonk filter is very easy to use. :-)

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




Scotty January 31st 07 03:40 AM

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Duh! Your talking to Maxprop. That's a JG sock puppet. As if
you didn't know.

Smellen

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
message
reenews.ne
t...

"Maxprop" wrote
Neal has posted too much as "Ellen" to be consistent.

He's going to have to find a new puppet soon.

Duh! Your talking to Nellen MacArthur. That's a Scotty

sock puppet. Where have
you been, Maxprop?

Cheers,
Ellen





Capt. JG January 31st 07 05:22 AM

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Duh! Your talking to Maxprop. That's a JG sock puppet. As if
you didn't know.

Smellen

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
message
reenews.ne
t...

"Maxprop" wrote
Neal has posted too much as "Ellen" to be consistent.

He's going to have to find a new puppet soon.

Duh! Your talking to Nellen MacArthur. That's a Scotty

sock puppet. Where have
you been, Maxprop?

Cheers,
Ellen






Shhhh.....


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




bobandcarole January 31st 07 05:29 AM

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On Jan 30, 4:54�pm, "Capt. JG" wrote:
"JimC" wrote in message

. net...







Capt. JG wrote:
"JimC" wrote in message
t...


What are you talking about Nell? It's quite logical that he should start
with a good, but conventional boat, and then move up to a Mac. - Save the
best for last.


Jim


Got any pictures of your boat while sailing her yet? Given your excellent
sailing credentials, it should be hard to do.

Capt., are quite right when you say it should be hard for me to take
pictures. - *I'm usually sailing solo, so I can't very well take photos of
the boat other than pictures of the deck, etc. *Also, it's cold as h____
these days, and I really don't enjoy getting out there in this weather.
Hopefully I'll be out again in February.


Jim


Well, I single-hand all the time, and I don't have trouble taking pictures
of me and the boat. It's cold here also. I'm sailing on Thursday.


So what do you want, an award?



JimC January 31st 07 07:38 PM

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Mundo wrote:
On Mon, 29 Jan 2007 12:46:06 -0500, Ringmaster wrote
(in article . com):



On Jan 28, 11:40?pm, "David" wrote:

I have never sailed before, although sailing around the world is one
of my dreams that I want to accomplish in my life. I am 21 years old,
and I want to know if this is a dream I can pursue or something far-
fetched and non-possible..


------------------

Having spent weeks at a time (2-5 weeks trips) offshore in small boats
(50-90ft) for 20 years, I have to agree with Loco. Much nicer to make port
every night or couple of days. I would like to take that trip from Clipper
Lines from southeast asia to the med sometime. First class all the way. The
price is around 10k for the whole passage. Half the price of a mac 26.


I would admit that they would probably have better food and
entertainment than what's available on the Mac. Better wine list also maybe.

Jim

Scotty February 1st 07 12:42 AM

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"JimC" wrote in message
et...

------------------

Having spent weeks at a time (2-5 weeks trips) offshore

in small boats
(50-90ft) for 20 years, I have to agree with Loco. Much

nicer to make port
every night or couple of days. I would like to take that

trip from Clipper
Lines from southeast asia to the med sometime. First

class all the way. The
price is around 10k for the whole passage. Half the

price of a mac 26.

I would admit that they would probably have better food

and
entertainment than what's available on the Mac. Better

wine list also maybe.


The toilets on a cruise ship can outsail a Mac26MX. They
look better, too.

Scotty




Maxprop February 1st 07 02:52 AM

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Duh! Your talking to Maxprop. That's a JG sock puppet. As if
you didn't know.


Yes, that's it. That's the ticket. I'm JG in a Goldtoe sock.

Max



Scotty February 1st 07 03:22 AM

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
hlink.net.
...

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Duh! Your talking to Maxprop. That's a JG sock puppet.

As if
you didn't know.


Yes, that's it. That's the ticket. I'm JG in a Goldtoe

sock.

I don't know what a Goldtoe sock is, but it sure sounds
gay.

Scotty



katy February 1st 07 03:39 AM

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Scotty wrote:
"Maxprop" wrote in message
hlink.net.
..

"Scotty" wrote in message
m...

Duh! Your talking to Maxprop. That's a JG sock puppet.


As if

you didn't know.


Yes, that's it. That's the ticket. I'm JG in a Goldtoe


sock.

I don't know what a Goldtoe sock is, but it sure sounds
gay.

Scotty


Goldtoe socks aren't gay..they're one of the best manufactured mens
socks on the market...they wear like iron...even in steel toed shoes
under factory conditions...Mr Sails likes them best...


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