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Ellen MacArthur December 29th 06 11:17 PM

I really like this boat.
 
http://www.stormloader.com/users/gre...ara/index.html I think older
boats like this one have personality. They have staying power. They show the owner has
good taste. Why in the world would anybody waste money on a MacGregor26 when they
could have a real cruiser like this one.

Cheers,
Ellen



JonBoy December 30th 06 12:06 AM

I really like this boat.
 
I thought that you liked the 26 better. What ever happened to your old
baby-****-colored Crapanado?


"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...
http://www.stormloader.com/users/gre...ara/index.html I
think older
boats like this one have personality. They have staying power. They show
the owner has
good taste. Why in the world would anybody waste money on a MacGregor26
when they
could have a real cruiser like this one.

Cheers,
Ellen




Joe December 30th 06 12:34 AM

I really like this boat.
 

JonBoy wrote:
I thought that you liked the 26 better. What ever happened to your old
baby-****-colored Crapanado?


Baby ****? I thought it was **** yeller.

Joe


"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...
http://www.stormloader.com/users/gre...ara/index.html I
think older
boats like this one have personality. They have staying power. They show
the owner has
good taste. Why in the world would anybody waste money on a MacGregor26
when they
could have a real cruiser like this one.

Cheers,
Ellen



Ellen MacArthur December 30th 06 12:43 AM

I really like this boat.
 

"JonBoy" wrote
I thought that you liked the 26 better. What ever happened to your old baby-****-colored Crapanado?


My boat's a Renken Tangerine. It's red/white/blue. The name's Elle Niño.
Here's a picture. http://ellenmacarthur.badongo.com/picture/5266/293242

Cheers,
Ellen




scbafreak via BoatKB.com December 30th 06 01:09 AM

I really like this boat.
 
Ellen MacArthur wrote:
http://www.stormloader.com/users/gre...ara/index.html I think older
boats like this one have personality. They have staying power. They show the owner has
good taste. Why in the world would anybody waste money on a MacGregor26 when they
could have a real cruiser like this one.

Cheers,
Ellen



I couldn't see the pics in the link. Is there something I need to make sure
I have in order to view?

As for the boat I can't say that it is my particular choice in boat but it is
nice and actually is a sailboat as opposed to the Mac. I saw one of those
and I really was dissapointed that anyone would do that to fiberglass then
call it a boat. really I lost a little faith in humanity.

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Maxprop December 30th 06 02:27 AM

I really like this boat.
 

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...
http://www.stormloader.com/users/gre...ara/index.html I
think older
boats like this one have personality. They have staying power. They show
the owner has
good taste. Why in the world would anybody waste money on a MacGregor26
when they
could have a real cruiser like this one.


It would look ever so much better after the application of a couple of
gallons of bright yellow paint.

Max



Maxprop December 30th 06 02:28 AM

I really like this boat.
 

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"JonBoy" wrote
I thought that you liked the 26 better. What ever happened to your old
baby-****-colored Crapanado?


My boat's a Renken Tangerine. It's red/white/blue. The name's Elle
Niño.
Here's a picture. http://ellenmacarthur.badongo.com/picture/5266/293242


When did you sell the Trump Princess?

Max



JonBoy December 30th 06 03:27 AM

I really like this boat.
 

"Joe" wrote in message
ps.com...

JonBoy wrote:
I thought that you liked the 26 better. What ever happened to your old
baby-****-colored Crapanado?


Baby ****? I thought it was **** yeller.


Baby **** yeller, **** yeller. So close, what's the difference?

Joe


"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...
http://www.stormloader.com/users/gre...ara/index.html I
think older
boats like this one have personality. They have staying power. They
show
the owner has
good taste. Why in the world would anybody waste money on a MacGregor26
when they
could have a real cruiser like this one.

Cheers,
Ellen





Scotty December 30th 06 04:41 AM

I really like this boat.
 
Homely looking, but at least it is a sailboat.

Scotty


"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
message
reenews.ne
t...

http://www.stormloader.com/users/gre...mara/index.htm
l I think older
boats like this one have personality. They have staying

power. They show the owner has
good taste. Why in the world would anybody waste money on

a MacGregor26 when they
could have a real cruiser like this one.

Cheers,
Ellen





Ellen MacArthur December 30th 06 03:18 PM

I really like this boat.
 

"scbafreak via BoatKB.com" u25927@uwe wrote

I couldn't see the pics in the link. Is there something I need to make sure
I have in order to view?


I don't think you need anything but your browser. They come up OK for other
people. Your the first person that's said he can't see the pictures. What do you see?
Just a place holder? Maybe they're so hot your browser has them restricted?

As for the boat I can't say that it is my particular choice in boat but it is
nice and actually is a sailboat as opposed to the Mac. I saw one of those
and I really was dissapointed that anyone would do that to fiberglass then
call it a boat. really I lost a little faith in humanity.


I know what you mean. People waste 25K on junk like that when they could buy
a seaworthy, safe and comfy passage maker. Used, of course. I was looking at the
Sailboat Trader catalog and check this out: 30ft Grampian Marine 1972 17,500$,
Newport 30 1981 18000$, lots of Catalina 30s for less than 20000$, Endeavor 32
1978 24000$, Rawson 33 1972 15500$, 1978 Hunter 33 14500$, 1981 Custom
Steel 34ft no rust 25000$, and on and on.
"I'm stupid" is what they tattoo on your forehead when you buy a MacGregor....

Cheers,
Ellen



Norm December 31st 06 02:47 AM

I really like this boat.
 
Ellen MacArthur wrote:
http://www.stormloader.com/users/gre...ara/index.html I think older
boats like this one have personality. They have staying power. They show the owner has
good taste. Why in the world would anybody waste money on a MacGregor26 when they
could have a real cruiser like this one.

Cheers,
Ellen



Those older boats can be real solid and a great value. 25 footer is a
bit small for my taste, you need a 27 or larger to do some serious, yet
moderately comfortable cruising. Coronado has a reputation for solid
boats yet is affordable. They do have a small but loyal following.

Norm

Thom Stewart December 31st 06 06:28 AM

I really like this boat.
 
I'll be damned!! The boat in the picture is the "Old Yellow- Banana
boat" painted White.

Look carefully at the supports for that Bimini Top. Still can't swing a
wench handle 360 degrees. Only one stupid person, we all know, would do
that to a boat. Would disable BOTH wenches that way and then call it a
"Blue WaterCruising Vessel.

Worst still show a picture to ASA again,thinking it wouldn't be noticed.

A Crapanordo painted Yellow or white is still a piece of **** that has
been made worst by dumb add ons.

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/WISHESFORALL


Scout December 31st 06 12:16 PM

I really like this boat.
 
"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"JonBoy" wrote
I thought that you liked the 26 better. What ever happened to your old
baby-****-colored Crapanado?


My boat's a Renken Tangerine. It's red/white/blue. The name's Elle
Niño.
Here's a picture. http://ellenmacarthur.badongo.com/picture/5266/293242

Cheers,
Ellen


What is happening in that picture? Why is the anchor dropped and the sails
raised?
Do you sail over the anchor to break it free from a muddy bottom?
Scout



Jeff December 31st 06 01:26 PM

I really like this boat.
 
Thom Stewart wrote:
I'll be damned!! The boat in the picture is the "Old Yellow- Banana
boat" painted White.

Look carefully at the supports for that Bimini Top. Still can't swing a
wench handle 360 degrees. Only one stupid person, we all know, would do
that to a boat. Would disable BOTH wenches that way and then call it a
"Blue WaterCruising Vessel.

Worst still show a picture to ASA again,thinking it wouldn't be noticed.

A Crapanordo painted Yellow or white is still a piece of **** that has
been made worst by dumb add ons.


No Thom, that actually is a Coronado 25. I was one of the early
Coronado's, quite popular and available as a kit.

For all the grief Neal gets about his boat, it really isn't that bad.
It was, after all, designed by Bill Tripp. Of course, Neal is
riding a bit low on his lines, but who isn't?

Ellen MacArthur December 31st 06 03:58 PM

I really like this boat.
 

"Scout" wrote
What is happening in that picture? Why is the anchor dropped and the sails raised?
Do you sail over the anchor to break it free from a muddy bottom?
Scout



I anchored behind a little island that was blocking the wind. I left the sails up
so we could take pictures with the sails up. It was sort of slowly spinning round and round.
It's only about three feet deep where it's anchored. We just climbed off the ladder and
waded to the beach to take the pictures.

Cheers,
Ellen



Ellen MacArthur December 31st 06 04:13 PM

I really like this boat.
 

"Thom Stewart" wrote
I'll be damned!! The boat in the picture is the "Old Yellow- Banana
boat" painted White.
A Crapanordo painted Yellow or white is still a piece of **** that has
been made worst by dumb add ons.



Duh! Here's pictures from Captain Neal's web site. http://captneal.homestead.com/bristol.html
You gotta be pretty blind to think *Cut the Mustard* is the same boat as Kumara.
http://www.stormloader.com/users/gre...ara/index.html
There's just too many differences. You'd better get your glasses checked, Tom.... Somebody told me
MSMTV has a little itty bitty picture. Like maybe 320X240. Maybe it's hard for you to see details on a
tiny picture on a television screen ????

Happy New Year.

Cheers,
Ellen



scbafreak via BoatKB.com December 31st 06 09:41 PM

I really like this boat.
 
I don't think you need anything but your browser. They come up OK for other
people. Your the first person that's said he can't see the pictures. What do you see?
Just a place holder? Maybe they're so hot your browser has them restricted?


Okay it didn't work at my office but it did at home. I just got a place
holder there but wow. Nice pics. I am pretty sure there was a boat in that
image. Is that really you?

I know what you mean. People waste 25K on junk like that when they could buy
a seaworthy, safe and comfy passage maker. Used, of course. *snipped*
"I'm stupid" is what they tattoo on your forehead when you buy a MacGregor....


I couldn't help but think that the MacGregor comes with a requirement that
all owners must wear large amounts of fake gold jewelry and a speedo at all
times while underway. It seems to me that you sail because you want to.
That being the case shouldn't the sailing aspects of the boat and the sailing
experience be the most important rather than convenience and cupholders?

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Capt. JG December 31st 06 10:18 PM

I really like this boat.
 
"scbafreak via BoatKB.com" u25927@uwe wrote in message
news:6b99eb36af824@uwe...
I don't think you need anything but your browser. They come up OK for
other
people. Your the first person that's said he can't see the pictures. What
do you see?
Just a place holder? Maybe they're so hot your browser has them
restricted?


Okay it didn't work at my office but it did at home. I just got a place
holder there but wow. Nice pics. I am pretty sure there was a boat in
that
image. Is that really you?

I know what you mean. People waste 25K on junk like that when they
could buy
a seaworthy, safe and comfy passage maker. Used, of course. *snipped*
"I'm stupid" is what they tattoo on your forehead when you buy a
MacGregor....


I couldn't help but think that the MacGregor comes with a requirement that
all owners must wear large amounts of fake gold jewelry and a speedo at
all
times while underway. It seems to me that you sail because you want to.
That being the case shouldn't the sailing aspects of the boat and the
sailing
experience be the most important rather than convenience and cupholders?

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It's really a guy named Neal who is so childish that he's pretending
(poorly) to be a woman.

Quite sad and pathetic actually...

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JonBoy January 7th 07 03:23 PM

I really like this boat.
 
Photoshop.
Notice the "oil-on-the-water" effect where the ripples are smaller on the
left with "Ellen"/Neal?



"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"JonBoy" wrote
I thought that you liked the 26 better. What ever happened to your old
baby-****-colored Crapanado?


My boat's a Renken Tangerine. It's red/white/blue. The name's Elle
Niño.
Here's a picture.
http://ellenmacarthur.badongo.com/picture/5266/293242

Cheers,
Ellen


What is happening in that picture? Why is the anchor dropped and the sails
raised?
Do you sail over the anchor to break it free from a muddy bottom?
Scout





katy January 7th 07 03:47 PM

I really like this boat.
 
JonBoy wrote:
Photoshop.
Notice the "oil-on-the-water" effect where the ripples are smaller on the
left with "Ellen"/Neal?



"Scout" wrote in message
. ..

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
dfreenews.net...

"JonBoy" wrote

I thought that you liked the 26 better. What ever happened to your old
baby-****-colored Crapanado?

My boat's a Renken Tangerine. It's red/white/blue. The name's Elle
Niño.
Here's a picture.
http://ellenmacarthur.badongo.com/picture/5266/293242

Cheers,
Ellen


What is happening in that picture? Why is the anchor dropped and the sails
raised?
Do you sail over the anchor to break it free from a muddy bottom?
Scout





Nellen will just claim that's where her Coppertone washed off in the
water when she jimped in...after all, in her opinion, oil calms the
waves, right?

Ellen MacArthur January 7th 07 04:30 PM

I really like this boat.
 

"JonBoy" wrote
Photoshop.
Notice the "oil-on-the-water" effect where the ripples are smaller on the left with "Ellen"/Neal?


Duh, get a decent monitor. On the left is just plain water. The water on the right of me has
the reflection of the boat and sails in it. It would look the same all the way across if the reflection
wasn't there. They're ain't nobody good enough to match up waves like that using Photoshop.

Cheers,
Ellen



Capt. JG January 7th 07 05:49 PM

I really like this boat.
 
"JonBoy" wrote in message
. ..
Photoshop.
Notice the "oil-on-the-water" effect where the ripples are smaller on the
left with "Ellen"/Neal?



Impossible. Neal isn't that slick. He's just slimy.

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Lady Pilot February 18th 07 03:37 AM

I really like this boat.
 

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote:

"JonBoy" wrote
I thought that you liked the 26 better. What ever happened to your old
baby-****-colored Crapanado?


My boat's a Renken Tangerine. It's red/white/blue. The name's Elle
Niño.
Here's a picture. http://ellenmacarthur.badongo.com/picture/5266/293242

That picture looks more like mauve, white and blue to me...


LP



cavelamb himself March 8th 07 04:46 PM

I really like this boat.
 
Lady Pilot wrote:

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote:

"JonBoy" wrote

I thought that you liked the 26 better. What ever happened to your old
baby-****-colored Crapanado?


My boat's a Renken Tangerine. It's red/white/blue. The name's Elle
Niño.
Here's a picture. http://ellenmacarthur.badongo.com/picture/5266/293242


That picture looks more like mauve, white and blue to me...


LP



Dam, Girl, you can come sail with me any time you want!

Richard
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm

Jonathan Ganz March 8th 07 04:54 PM

I really like this boat.
 
In article ink.net,
cavelamb himself wrote:
Dam, Girl, you can come sail with me any time you want!

Richard


Richard, don't get too excited... this is the real person and LP is
actually a guy.

http://www.homestead.com/captneal/Captain.html



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cavelamb himself March 8th 07 06:17 PM

I really like this boat.
 
Jonathan Ganz wrote:

In article ink.net,
cavelamb himself wrote:

Dam, Girl, you can come sail with me any time you want!

Richard



Richard, don't get too excited... this is the real person and LP is
actually a guy.

http://www.homestead.com/captneal/Captain.html



YeCh!

Now why did you have to go and bust up a perfectly good fantasy!?!

Richard

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm

Jonathan Ganz March 8th 07 09:35 PM

I really like this boat.
 
In article ink.net,
cavelamb himself wrote:
Richard, don't get too excited... this is the real person and LP is
actually a guy.

http://www.homestead.com/captneal/Captain.html

YeCh!

Now why did you have to go and bust up a perfectly good fantasy!?!


Sorry man...

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cavelamb himself March 9th 07 03:42 AM

I really like this boat.
 
Jonathan Ganz wrote:

In article ink.net,
cavelamb himself wrote:

Richard, don't get too excited... this is the real person and LP is
actually a guy.

http://www.homestead.com/captneal/Captain.html


YeCh!

Now why did you have to go and bust up a perfectly good fantasy!?!



Sorry man...

Oh well, I suspected it was too good to be true.

So is there anything going on here worth reading?
From the looks of it, just another outta control
news group...

Richard

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm

Maxprop March 9th 07 04:15 AM

I really like this boat.
 

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Jonathan Ganz wrote:

In article ink.net,
cavelamb himself wrote:

Richard, don't get too excited... this is the real person and LP is
actually a guy.

http://www.homestead.com/captneal/Captain.html


YeCh!

Now why did you have to go and bust up a perfectly good fantasy!?!



Sorry man...

Oh well, I suspected it was too good to be true.

So is there anything going on here worth reading?
From the looks of it, just another outta control
news group...


That pretty much sums it up. If you filter out the flonkers, however, it's
tolerable. Periodic sailing discussions interspersed with politics, hatred,
accusations, humor, animosity, and general tastelessness is what ASA is all
about. Stick around a while to see if it's to your liking. Or more likely,
if it's tolerable to you, too.

Max



Capt. JG March 9th 07 06:51 AM

I really like this boat.
 
"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
hlink.net...
Jonathan Ganz wrote:

In article ink.net,
cavelamb himself wrote:

Richard, don't get too excited... this is the real person and LP is
actually a guy.

http://www.homestead.com/captneal/Captain.html


YeCh!

Now why did you have to go and bust up a perfectly good fantasy!?!



Sorry man...

Oh well, I suspected it was too good to be true.

So is there anything going on here worth reading?
From the looks of it, just another outta control
news group...

Richard

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm



I think Max pretty much summed it up. Several of us have been here a long
time. Others come and go... mostly go. g
But, you're welcome to hang around and be busted up from time to time.


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Capt. JG March 9th 07 07:01 AM

I really like this boat.
 
"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
hlink.net...

Richard

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm


How do you like the Capri... 18 is it? We have 4 Capri 16.5s. Great little
training boats, but a bit wet and tender for the conditions.

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cavelamb himself March 9th 07 04:07 PM

I really like this boat.
 
Capt. JG wrote:
"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
hlink.net...

Richard

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm



How do you like the Capri... 18 is it? We have 4 Capri 16.5s. Great little
training boats, but a bit wet and tender for the conditions.


I like it a lot.

When I started looking for a boat I was actually thinking about an O'Day
Day Sailor. Used to sail them from NAS Pensacola in the 70's.

When I found the Capri I was amazed with how much boat Catalina had
packed into 18 feet without compromising on much of anything!

This is not a centerboard boat. She has a lead ballasted fin keel!
Stiff and weatherly - and faster than expected. (Not that I race, but
for a 16 foot waterline she really moves out) and points well.

Below decks the cabin is a lot bigger than you'd expect. Bunks are
nearly 7 feet long and quite comfy.

The new version has a much more stylish deck plan but gives up a lot
of headroom. I like this old boat a lot better.

She is 21 years old now, and wasn't in great shape whe I got her.
I've done a lot of restoration and upgrading. No major structural
problems - just years of neglect and abuse.

She's better now. New rigging, cleaned and polished. Added a bimini
top, slab reefing, VHF radio, and a host of smaller details.

Like any small boat, storage is a challenge - getting things organized
so that they are not just piled up in the cabin.

Currently finishing up the "fo'csle". I have no use for a V berth and
have added a small galley to port and a chart table and "wine locker"
to starbord.

My next project is a "sail loft" in the fore peak. This will be used
for storing sail, PFD's, covers and stuff when not in use.
Anchors and lines stored below with quick and easy access when needed.

So, ok, you probably got the idea that I like to tinker. One of the
reasons I dropped in here is to search out some odd information about
how to set up and handle a square rig(!).

I've worked out (in theory) how to set up a course and tops'l - and
how to set and furl the sails. But, of course, I've never handled
squares. The running rigging presents a challenge on such a short
single masted boat. While there are a few old books an the subject
none of them I've seen address a single mast system.

I'm not claining it would be practical - but might be a lot of fun
when the local racing fleet turns down wind.

Providing I don't screw up and look dumb for trying something so
silly...


For what it's worth.

Richard

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm

Capt. JG March 9th 07 06:13 PM

I really like this boat.
 
"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
ink.net...
Capt. JG wrote:
"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
hlink.net...

Richard

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm



How do you like the Capri... 18 is it? We have 4 Capri 16.5s. Great
little training boats, but a bit wet and tender for the conditions.


I like it a lot.

When I started looking for a boat I was actually thinking about an O'Day
Day Sailor. Used to sail them from NAS Pensacola in the 70's.

When I found the Capri I was amazed with how much boat Catalina had
packed into 18 feet without compromising on much of anything!

This is not a centerboard boat. She has a lead ballasted fin keel!
Stiff and weatherly - and faster than expected. (Not that I race, but
for a 16 foot waterline she really moves out) and points well.

Below decks the cabin is a lot bigger than you'd expect. Bunks are
nearly 7 feet long and quite comfy.

The new version has a much more stylish deck plan but gives up a lot
of headroom. I like this old boat a lot better.

She is 21 years old now, and wasn't in great shape whe I got her.
I've done a lot of restoration and upgrading. No major structural
problems - just years of neglect and abuse.

She's better now. New rigging, cleaned and polished. Added a bimini
top, slab reefing, VHF radio, and a host of smaller details.

Like any small boat, storage is a challenge - getting things organized
so that they are not just piled up in the cabin.

Currently finishing up the "fo'csle". I have no use for a V berth and
have added a small galley to port and a chart table and "wine locker"
to starbord.

My next project is a "sail loft" in the fore peak. This will be used
for storing sail, PFD's, covers and stuff when not in use.
Anchors and lines stored below with quick and easy access when needed.

So, ok, you probably got the idea that I like to tinker. One of the
reasons I dropped in here is to search out some odd information about
how to set up and handle a square rig(!).

I've worked out (in theory) how to set up a course and tops'l - and
how to set and furl the sails. But, of course, I've never handled
squares. The running rigging presents a challenge on such a short single
masted boat. While there are a few old books an the subject
none of them I've seen address a single mast system.

I'm not claining it would be practical - but might be a lot of fun
when the local racing fleet turns down wind.

Providing I don't screw up and look dumb for trying something so
silly...


For what it's worth.

Richard

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm



Yup.. we really like the Capris. They're just the right level of challenge
for new students on the SF bay.

Hey, you're going to screw up and you're going to luck dumb doing something
silly... nature of sailing. Or, did you mean posting here? g


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cavelamb himself March 10th 07 12:42 AM

I really like this boat.
 
Capt. JG wrote:

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
ink.net...

Capt. JG wrote:

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
arthlink.net...


Richard

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm


How do you like the Capri... 18 is it? We have 4 Capri 16.5s. Great
little training boats, but a bit wet and tender for the conditions.


I like it a lot.

When I started looking for a boat I was actually thinking about an O'Day
Day Sailor. Used to sail them from NAS Pensacola in the 70's.

When I found the Capri I was amazed with how much boat Catalina had
packed into 18 feet without compromising on much of anything!

This is not a centerboard boat. She has a lead ballasted fin keel!
Stiff and weatherly - and faster than expected. (Not that I race, but
for a 16 foot waterline she really moves out) and points well.

Below decks the cabin is a lot bigger than you'd expect. Bunks are
nearly 7 feet long and quite comfy.

The new version has a much more stylish deck plan but gives up a lot
of headroom. I like this old boat a lot better.

She is 21 years old now, and wasn't in great shape whe I got her.
I've done a lot of restoration and upgrading. No major structural
problems - just years of neglect and abuse.

She's better now. New rigging, cleaned and polished. Added a bimini
top, slab reefing, VHF radio, and a host of smaller details.

Like any small boat, storage is a challenge - getting things organized
so that they are not just piled up in the cabin.

Currently finishing up the "fo'csle". I have no use for a V berth and
have added a small galley to port and a chart table and "wine locker"
to starbord.

My next project is a "sail loft" in the fore peak. This will be used
for storing sail, PFD's, covers and stuff when not in use.
Anchors and lines stored below with quick and easy access when needed.

So, ok, you probably got the idea that I like to tinker. One of the
reasons I dropped in here is to search out some odd information about
how to set up and handle a square rig(!).

I've worked out (in theory) how to set up a course and tops'l - and
how to set and furl the sails. But, of course, I've never handled
squares. The running rigging presents a challenge on such a short single
masted boat. While there are a few old books an the subject
none of them I've seen address a single mast system.

I'm not claining it would be practical - but might be a lot of fun
when the local racing fleet turns down wind.

Providing I don't screw up and look dumb for trying something so
silly...


For what it's worth.

Richard

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm




Yup.. we really like the Capris. They're just the right level of challenge
for new students on the SF bay.

Hey, you're going to screw up and you're going to luck dumb doing something
silly... nature of sailing. Or, did you mean posting here? g


Well, that's certainty a possibility...

cavelamb himself March 11th 07 01:15 AM

I really like this boat.
 



Yup.. we really like the Capris. They're just the right level of challenge
for new students on the SF bay.

Hey, you're going to screw up and you're going to luck dumb doing something
silly... nature of sailing. Or, did you mean posting here? g

certaintly a possibility...



Didn't screw up too bad today!

But I don't have the squares built yet - so it's kinda a moot point.
That's going to give me ample oppertunity to look dumb... I'm sure.

About 5 hours to cross to the end of the lake and get (slowly) home.
Winds light and variable, but we moved - and under sail power alone!
WooWoo!

Dorothy did real well today.
Kinda got her tiller backwards a couple of time on the way home,
but I know she was getting pretty tired by then.

Got a lot of sun and had fun too.

Fair winds,

Richard

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm


Capt. JG March 11th 07 02:15 AM

I really like this boat.
 
"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
thlink.net...



Yup.. we really like the Capris. They're just the right level of
challenge for new students on the SF bay.

Hey, you're going to screw up and you're going to luck dumb doing
something silly... nature of sailing. Or, did you mean posting here? g

certaintly a possibility...



Didn't screw up too bad today!

But I don't have the squares built yet - so it's kinda a moot point.
That's going to give me ample oppertunity to look dumb... I'm sure.

About 5 hours to cross to the end of the lake and get (slowly) home.
Winds light and variable, but we moved - and under sail power alone!
WooWoo!

Dorothy did real well today.
Kinda got her tiller backwards a couple of time on the way home,
but I know she was getting pretty tired by then.

Got a lot of sun and had fun too.

Fair winds,

Richard

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm



What about Toto? g

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




cavelamb himself March 11th 07 03:02 PM

I really like this boat.
 
Capt. JG wrote:
"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
thlink.net...



Yup.. we really like the Capris. They're just the right level of
challenge for new students on the SF bay.

Hey, you're going to screw up and you're going to luck dumb doing
something silly... nature of sailing. Or, did you mean posting here? g

certaintly a possibility...



Didn't screw up too bad today!

But I don't have the squares built yet - so it's kinda a moot point.
That's going to give me ample oppertunity to look dumb... I'm sure.

About 5 hours to cross to the end of the lake and get (slowly) home.
Winds light and variable, but we moved - and under sail power alone!
WooWoo!

Dorothy did real well today.
Kinda got her tiller backwards a couple of time on the way home,
but I know she was getting pretty tired by then.

Got a lot of sun and had fun too.

Fair winds,


Richard

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm




What about Toto? g


nervous bladder...

katy March 11th 07 03:22 PM

I really like this boat.
 
cavelamb himself wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
thlink.net...



Yup.. we really like the Capris. They're just the right level of
challenge for new students on the SF bay.

Hey, you're going to screw up and you're going to luck dumb doing
something silly... nature of sailing. Or, did you mean posting here?
g

certaintly a possibility...



Didn't screw up too bad today!

But I don't have the squares built yet - so it's kinda a moot point.
That's going to give me ample oppertunity to look dumb... I'm sure.

About 5 hours to cross to the end of the lake and get (slowly) home.
Winds light and variable, but we moved - and under sail power alone!
WooWoo!

Dorothy did real well today.
Kinda got her tiller backwards a couple of time on the way home,
but I know she was getting pretty tired by then.

Got a lot of sun and had fun too.

Fair winds,


Richard

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm





What about Toto? g


nervous bladder...


Just stick him next to the scuppers...

Capt. JG March 11th 07 04:44 PM

I really like this boat.
 
"katy" wrote in message
...
cavelamb himself wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:

"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
thlink.net...



Yup.. we really like the Capris. They're just the right level of
challenge for new students on the SF bay.

Hey, you're going to screw up and you're going to luck dumb doing
something silly... nature of sailing. Or, did you mean posting here?
g

certaintly a possibility...



Didn't screw up too bad today!

But I don't have the squares built yet - so it's kinda a moot point.
That's going to give me ample oppertunity to look dumb... I'm sure.

About 5 hours to cross to the end of the lake and get (slowly) home.
Winds light and variable, but we moved - and under sail power alone!
WooWoo!

Dorothy did real well today.
Kinda got her tiller backwards a couple of time on the way home,
but I know she was getting pretty tired by then.

Got a lot of sun and had fun too.

Fair winds,


Richard

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm




What about Toto? g


nervous bladder...


Just stick him next to the scuppers...



That's katytype for next to the scarecrow.


--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com




cavelamb himself March 12th 07 12:51 AM

I really like this boat.
 
Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...

cavelamb himself wrote:

Capt. JG wrote:


"cavelamb himself" wrote in message
.earthlink.net...



Yup.. we really like the Capris. They're just the right level of
challenge for new students on the SF bay.

Hey, you're going to screw up and you're going to luck dumb doing
something silly... nature of sailing. Or, did you mean posting here?
g

certaintly a possibility...



Didn't screw up too bad today!

But I don't have the squares built yet - so it's kinda a moot point.
That's going to give me ample oppertunity to look dumb... I'm sure.

About 5 hours to cross to the end of the lake and get (slowly) home.
Winds light and variable, but we moved - and under sail power alone!
WooWoo!

Dorothy did real well today.
Kinda got her tiller backwards a couple of time on the way home,
but I know she was getting pretty tired by then.

Got a lot of sun and had fun too.

Fair winds,



Richard

http://www.home.earthlink.net/~cavelamb/index.htm




What about Toto? g

nervous bladder...


Just stick him next to the scuppers...




That's katytype for next to the scarecrow.



Today was mo' betta. Wind 5 to 10. Let's head for the lake!

Dorothy _sailed_ us out of the slip and away we went flying low across
the lake!

About an hour out we sudenly hit a hole in the wind and went limp.

Then the real wind showed up! 15 to 20 gusting 25.

Spirit laid over and slithered like a sidewinder!

This was the first time Dorothy has had to handle any real blow and
it was a bit much for her. The boat would try to round and loose drive
then D'd get her back on course and laid right over again.

Things happened a lot quicker than she's used to.
The look on her face was a mix of exhilaration and dread as the lee rail
started throwing spray.

I was caught between wanting to try out the new main reefing - and not
wanting to let go of the main sheet!

Finally decided the best course of action was to run like smoke for home.

We were making hull speed on a run! First time for that...

Well, like the title says - I like this boat!

Richard


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