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December 7th 1941
Never Forget!
Joe |
December 7th 1941
Joe wrote:
Never Forget! Joe "A day that will live in infamy!" Too bad you weren't there Joe, I could see you behind a quad .50 blazing away at Zeroes! Marty |
December 7th 1941
Martin Baxter wrote: Joe wrote: Never Forget! Joe "A day that will live in infamy!" Too bad you weren't there Joe, I could see you behind a quad .50 blazing away at Zeroes! Until the barrels melted off. Rather have been on a pair of Pom Pom's. Stand, Navy, out to sea, Fight our battle cry; We'll never change our course, So vicious foe steer shy-y-y-y. Roll out the TNT (BOOM!), Anchors Aweigh. Sail on to victory And sink their bones to Davy Jones, hooray! Anchors Aweigh, my boys, Anchors Aweigh. Farewell to college joys, we sail at break of day-ay-ay-ay. Through our last night on shore, drink to the foam, Until we meet once more. Here's wishing you a happy voyage home. Listen to Anchors Aweigh: http://www.navychief.com/soundfiles/anchorsawy.wav Joe Marty |
December 7th 1941
"Joe" wrote ... Never Forget! Joe What is it? Katy's birthday? Cheers, Ellen |
December 7th 1941
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December 7th 1941
Thom Stewart wrote: Thank you Joe!! Hey Ol Thom, No..Thank You. You and yours were the one that kick the Japs asses back to Tokyo. Where were you Dec 7th 1941? When did you first hear of the attack? Joe http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT http://community.webtv.net/tassail/GOODNITE |
December 7th 1941
Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Joe" wrote ... Never Forget! Joe What is it? Katy's birthday? Cheers, Ellen I'm a Gemini... |
December 7th 1941
I was at the bowling alleys with my Dad & Uncle.
We were told about when we dropped my Uncle at his home, I was in the Eight Grade. When I enrolled in High School I was given permission to double up on certain subjects so I could graduate in 31/2 years. That let me graduate before I was 17 years of age. 17 was the age necessary to volunteer, with parents permission. That's what I did, I volunteered in the Navy for a "Minority Cruise" was what they called it. |
December 7th 1941
Thom Stewart wrote: I was at the bowling alleys with my Dad & Uncle. We were told about when we dropped my Uncle at his home, I was in the Eight Grade. When I enrolled in High School I was given permission to double up on certain subjects so I could graduate in 31/2 years. That let me graduate before I was 17 years of age. 17 was the age necessary to volunteer, with parents permission. That's what I did, I volunteered in the Navy for a "Minority Cruise" was what they called it. I've never heard of a Minority cruise. Can not find much on the internet about them. The other reference was a 17 YO as well. Whats the deal? Were minority cruises kept behind lines or what? Joe |
December 7th 1941
Joe,
You have to remember, back in the Forties, we couldn't vote until we were 21. We were still Minors. We were taken into the reserves for the duration or until we were 21; which ever came first. Then we had to re-up:--- Regulars or reserves. Once we were in we were assigned duties like anyone else. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT http://community.webtv.net/tassail/GOODNITE |
December 7th 1941
Thom Stewart wrote: Joe, You have to remember, back in the Forties, we couldn't vote until we were 21. We were still Minors. We were taken into the reserves for the duration or until we were 21; which ever came first. Then we had to re-up:--- Regulars or reserves. Interesting..I joined at 16-17 too. No such thing as a Minorty cruise existed, must be a time of war thing. I could not vote yet . But if on base you did not need ID to drink, off base it was 21 YO at the time. I think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere no-matter thier age. Joe Once we were in we were assigned duties like anyone else. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT http://community.webtv.net/tassail/GOODNITE |
December 7th 1941
"Joe" wrote in message oups.com.. .. Interesting..I joined at 1617 too. Were you fighting for the Poles or the Swedes? Scotty |
December 7th 1941
I ran over 2 Hondas and a Datsun yesterday.
Scotty "Joe" wrote in message ps.com... Never Forget! Joe |
December 7th 1941
"Scotty" wrote I ran over 2 Hondas and a Datsun yesterday. No no! You should be aiming for KIA suvs. ;-0 Cheers, Ellen |
December 7th 1941
Joe wrote:
I think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere no-matter thier age. Joe I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the active military either...TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on active duty. |
December 7th 1941
katy wrote: Joe wrote: I think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere no-matter thier age. Joe I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the active military either.. Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some 18-21 year olds? I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed, trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the time), but did not trust me with booze or voting. Joe ..TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on active duty. |
December 7th 1941
Joe wrote:
katy wrote: Joe wrote: I think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere no-matter thier age. Joe I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the active military either.. Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some 18-21 year olds? I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed, trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the time), but did not trust me with booze or voting. Joe .TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on active duty. Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they should not become cannon fodder for the country...for the most part, most at that age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so are fighting a fight for something they don't understand. I don't believe in blind patriotism... |
December 7th 1941
At what age a kid can drink should be up to his parents, not
the damn state. Scotty "katy" wrote in message ... Joe wrote: I think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere no-matter thier age. Joe I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the active military either...TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on active duty. |
December 7th 1941
Katy,
That is something that is unanswerable. I don't believe that age group should be allowed to demonstrate against government policy but not allowed to object against those demonstrating. I do think that age group is old enough to be allowed "Freedom of Choice!" Drivers Licenses, un-married sex, abortions, single motherhood, tattooing. military life, priesthood, drinking age, marrying age, etc; I don't think lend themselves to LAWS. Just my opinion and that isn't worth very much. I made up my mind to serve in the Navy when I was 13. I finally convinced my Mother & Father to sign for me at 17. It was a problem. My Mother believed as you do. It was probably the most important decision of my life and it was made when I was 13. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT http://community.webtv.net/tassail/GOODNITE |
December 7th 1941
"katy" wrote in message
... Joe wrote: katy wrote: Joe wrote: I think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere no-matter thier age. Joe I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the active military either.. Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some 18-21 year olds? I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed, trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the time), but did not trust me with booze or voting. Joe .TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on active duty. Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they should not become cannon fodder for the country...for the most part, most at that age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so are fighting a fight for something they don't understand. I don't believe in blind patriotism... According to Joe, it's ok. I guess the 8 year olds in Africa are old enough to serve in the military also. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
December 7th 1941
Thom Stewart wrote:
Katy, That is something that is unanswerable. I don't believe that age group should be allowed to demonstrate against government policy but not allowed to object against those demonstrating. I do think that age group is old enough to be allowed "Freedom of Choice!" Drivers Licenses, un-married sex, abortions, single motherhood, tattooing. military life, priesthood, drinking age, marrying age, etc; I don't think lend themselves to LAWS. Just my opinion and that isn't worth very much. I made up my mind to serve in the Navy when I was 13. I finally convinced my Mother & Father to sign for me at 17. It was a problem. My Mother believed as you do. It was probably the most important decision of my life and it was made when I was 13. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT http://community.webtv.net/tassail/GOODNITE There's nothing wrong about deciding on your life's path at 13 and then working towards it...but as I said, active duty at 16-17 IMO is ridiculous...most kids that age think they're mature enough to handle adult situations, but they're not. Cas ein point, teenage marriages that fail, unwed mothers, abortions, and the other things you mentioned (I don't quite know where priesthood fits in there since you have to be a degreed adult to take your final vows and can't even take the secular vows until you're 18...) |
December 7th 1941
"katy" wrote in message
... There's nothing wrong about deciding on your life's path at 13 and then working towards it...but as I said, active duty at 16-17 IMO is ridiculous...most kids that age think they're mature enough to handle adult situations, but they're not. Cas ein point, teenage marriages that fail, unwed mothers, abortions, and the other things you mentioned (I don't quite know where priesthood fits in there since you have to be a degreed adult to take your final vows and can't even take the secular vows until you're 18...) Actually, according to recent studies, that doesn't change until about 25. The brain is still not mature until that age, apparently. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
December 7th 1941
Jon,
I do believe it's Natures way of keeping an "Open Mind" so adjustment can still be made to meet life style and enviroment changes with less diffculty Jon stated; Actually, according to recent studies, that doesn't change until about 25. The brain is still not mature until that age, apparently. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT http://community.webtv.net/tassail/GOODNITE |
December 7th 1941
"Scotty" wrote in message ... I ran over 2 Hondas and a Datsun yesterday. Must have been at the junk yard. Dotson has been Nissan for almost 30 years. Max |
December 7th 1941
katy wrote: Joe wrote: katy wrote: Joe wrote: I think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere no-matter thier age. Joe I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the active military either.. Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some 18-21 year olds? I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed, trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the time), but did not trust me with booze or voting. Joe .TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on active duty. Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they should not become cannon fodder for the country... ' How do you define children? for the most part, most at that age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so are fighting a fight for something they don't understand. You start saying the pledge of alligence in kindergarden. I don't believe in blind patriotism... See above Joe |
December 7th 1941
Joe wrote:
katy wrote: Joe wrote: katy wrote: Joe wrote: I think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere no-matter thier age. Joe I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the active military either.. Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some 18-21 year olds? I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed, trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the time), but did not trust me with booze or voting. Joe .TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on active duty. Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they should not become cannon fodder for the country... ' How do you define children? Anyone under the age of 19 and sometimes, between 19 and 21, depending on their personal development...and then there are those who chose to enver grow up but that's a;together different... for the most part, most at that age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so are fighting a fight for something they don't understand. You start saying the pledge of alligence in kindergarden. That's instilling patriotism..it's like taking your kids to church. You hope that later on in life it sticks.... I don't believe in blind patriotism... See above Joe |
December 7th 1941
Scotty wrote: I ran over 2 Hondas and a Datsun yesterday. Scotty Well Done Scotty! Joe "Joe" wrote in message ps.com... Never Forget! Joe |
December 7th 1941
katy wrote: Joe wrote: katy wrote: Joe wrote: I think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere no-matter thier age. Joe I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the active military either.. Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some 18-21 year olds? I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed, trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the time), but did not trust me with booze or voting. Joe .TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on active duty. Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they should not become cannon fodder for the country... ' How do you define children? for the most part, most at that age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so are fighting a fight for something they don't understand. You start saying the pledge of alligence in kindergarden. I don't believe in blind patriotism... See above Joe |
December 7th 1941
OzOne wrote Naah, taking em to church is so they get a rounded view of life. You hope it doesn't stick and hamper rational thinking for the rest of their lives. But look what happens when it sticks..... you end up with people like Katy. :-0 Cheers, Ellen |
December 7th 1941
katy wrote: Joe wrote: katy wrote: Joe wrote: I think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere no-matter thier age. Joe I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the active military either.. Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some 18-21 year olds? I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed, trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the time), but did not trust me with booze or voting. Joe .TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on active duty. Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they should not become cannon fodder for the country... ' How do you define children? for the most part, most at that age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so are fighting a fight for something they don't understand. You start saying the pledge of alligence in kindergarden. I don't believe in blind patriotism... See above Joe |
December 7th 1941
Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Joe wrote: katy wrote: Joe wrote: I think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere no-matter thier age. Joe I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the active military either.. Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some 18-21 year olds? I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed, trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the time), but did not trust me with booze or voting. Joe .TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on active duty. Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they should not become cannon fodder for the country...for the most part, most at that age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so are fighting a fight for something they don't understand. I don't believe in blind patriotism... According to Joe, it's ok. I guess the 8 year olds in Africa are old enough to serve in the military also. I think 8's a bit young Jon. But seeing how you never served I find it hard to respect your opinion on the subject anyway. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
December 7th 1941
"Joe" wrote in message
ps.com... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Joe wrote: katy wrote: Joe wrote: I think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere no-matter thier age. Joe I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the active military either.. Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some 18-21 year olds? I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed, trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the time), but did not trust me with booze or voting. Joe .TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on active duty. Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they should not become cannon fodder for the country...for the most part, most at that age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so are fighting a fight for something they don't understand. I don't believe in blind patriotism... According to Joe, it's ok. I guess the 8 year olds in Africa are old enough to serve in the military also. I think 8's a bit young Jon. But seeing how you never served I find it hard to respect your opinion on the subject anyway. Joe How do you know I never served? -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
December 7th 1941
Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Joe wrote: katy wrote: Joe wrote: I think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere no-matter thier age. Joe I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the active military either.. Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some 18-21 year olds? I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed, trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the time), but did not trust me with booze or voting. Joe .TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on active duty. Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they should not become cannon fodder for the country...for the most part, most at that age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so are fighting a fight for something they don't understand. I don't believe in blind patriotism... According to Joe, it's ok. I guess the 8 year olds in Africa are old enough to serve in the military also. I think 8's a bit young Jon. But seeing how you never served I find it hard to respect your opinion on the subject anyway. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
December 7th 1941
Joe wrote:
Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Joe wrote: katy wrote: Joe wrote: I think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere no-matter thier age. Joe I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the active military either.. Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some 18-21 year olds? I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed, trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the time), but did not trust me with booze or voting. Joe .TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on active duty. Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they should not become cannon fodder for the country...for the most part, most at that age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so are fighting a fight for something they don't understand. I don't believe in blind patriotism... According to Joe, it's ok. I guess the 8 year olds in Africa are old enough to serve in the military also. I think 8's a bit young Jon. But seeing how you never served I find it hard to respect your opinion on the subject anyway. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com There are plenty of people who didn't serve for whatever various reasons...it does not mean they are any less Americans, any less patriotic, or any less able to have an opinion on the subject. Having served is a wonderful ting to have done, BUT it does not place you next to the right hand of God, and does not elecate you to some kind of special status. It does mean you are due respect for having served, but that is all. The same respect is due all who serve: policemen, nurses, diremen, and even cab drivers.... |
December 7th 1941
Capt. JG wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ps.com... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Joe wrote: katy wrote: Joe wrote: I think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere no-matter thier age. Joe I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the active military either.. Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some 18-21 year olds? I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed, trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the time), but did not trust me with booze or voting. Joe .TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on active duty. Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they should not become cannon fodder for the country...for the most part, most at that age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so are fighting a fight for something they don't understand. I don't believe in blind patriotism... According to Joe, it's ok. I guess the 8 year olds in Africa are old enough to serve in the military also. I think 8's a bit young Jon. But seeing how you never served I find it hard to respect your opinion on the subject anyway. Joe How do you know I never served? Easy. Had you served you would have mentioned it. I've never meet a person who served who wasen't proud of the fact that he or she did his or her part. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com |
December 7th 1941
katy wrote: Joe wrote: Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Joe wrote: katy wrote: Joe wrote: I think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere no-matter thier age. Joe I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the active military either.. Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some 18-21 year olds? I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed, trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the time), but did not trust me with booze or voting. Joe .TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on active duty. Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they should not become cannon fodder for the country...for the most part, most at that age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so are fighting a fight for something they don't understand. I don't believe in blind patriotism... According to Joe, it's ok. I guess the 8 year olds in Africa are old enough to serve in the military also. I think 8's a bit young Jon. But seeing how you never served I find it hard to respect your opinion on the subject anyway. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com There are plenty of people who didn't serve for whatever various reasons...it does not mean they are any less Americans, any less patriotic, or any less able to have an opinion on the subject. Wrong, but since you never served it is pointless in discussing the issue with you, Having served is a wonderful ting to have done, BUT it does not place you next to the right hand of God, and does not elecate you to some kind of special status. It does mean you are due respect for having served, but that is all. The same respect is due all who serve: policemen, nurses, diremen, and even cab drivers.... Cab drivers.......You need to think that again, how many cab drivers are willing to die for America? Sheeeeze guess you haven't been in a NY taxi lately have you? Joe |
December 7th 1941
Joe wrote:
Capt. JG wrote: "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Joe wrote: katy wrote: Joe wrote: I think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere no-matter thier age. Joe I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the active military either.. Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some 18-21 year olds? I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed, trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the time), but did not trust me with booze or voting. Joe .TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on active duty. Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they should not become cannon fodder for the country...for the most part, most at that age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so are fighting a fight for something they don't understand. I don't believe in blind patriotism... According to Joe, it's ok. I guess the 8 year olds in Africa are old enough to serve in the military also. I think 8's a bit young Jon. But seeing how you never served I find it hard to respect your opinion on the subject anyway. Joe How do you know I never served? Easy. Had you served you would have mentioned it. I've never meet a person who served who wasen't proud of the fact that he or she did his or her part. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com I have.... |
December 7th 1941
Joe wrote:
katy wrote: Joe wrote: Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Joe wrote: katy wrote: Joe wrote: I think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere no-matter thier age. Joe I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the active military either.. Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some 18-21 year olds? I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed, trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the time), but did not trust me with booze or voting. Joe .TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on active duty. Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they should not become cannon fodder for the country...for the most part, most at that age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so are fighting a fight for something they don't understand. I don't believe in blind patriotism... According to Joe, it's ok. I guess the 8 year olds in Africa are old enough to serve in the military also. I think 8's a bit young Jon. But seeing how you never served I find it hard to respect your opinion on the subject anyway. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com There are plenty of people who didn't serve for whatever various reasons...it does not mean they are any less Americans, any less patriotic, or any less able to have an opinion on the subject. Wrong, but since you never served it is pointless in discussing the issue with you, Having served is a wonderful ting to have done, BUT it does not place you next to the right hand of God, and does not elecate you to some kind of special status. It does mean you are due respect for having served, but that is all. The same respect is due all who serve: policemen, nurses, diremen, and even cab drivers.... Cab drivers.......You need to think that again, how many cab drivers are willing to die for America? Sheeeeze guess you haven't been in a NY taxi lately have you? Joe Have you ever seen how cab drivers are treated? Yes, tehy serve...and yes, some are rude but they do their jobs...serving in the military is just that...a job...my dad is not only a WW2 vet but was also a Federal employee for 30 years...my brother served, my uncles served...so yes, I do know...because I watched...so get off your little "special" horse...you were doing your duty as you were asked to do...there are plenty who did their duty elsewhere to support you in that effort andf their claim to fame is just as valid as yours... |
December 7th 1941
"Joe" wrote Capt. JG wrote: Please don't repeat his posts. I don't want to see them. They aren't worth seeing the first time. That's why I blocked him..... Be a dear, Joe. Block him too. If enough people block him we'll be rid of his bad influence. Cheers, Ellen |
December 7th 1941
katy wrote: Joe wrote: Capt. JG wrote: "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Capt. JG wrote: "katy" wrote in message ... Joe wrote: katy wrote: Joe wrote: I think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere no-matter thier age. Joe I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the active military either.. Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some 18-21 year olds? I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed, trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the time), but did not trust me with booze or voting. Joe .TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on active duty. Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they should not become cannon fodder for the country...for the most part, most at that age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so are fighting a fight for something they don't understand. I don't believe in blind patriotism... According to Joe, it's ok. I guess the 8 year olds in Africa are old enough to serve in the military also. I think 8's a bit young Jon. But seeing how you never served I find it hard to respect your opinion on the subject anyway. Joe How do you know I never served? Easy. Had you served you would have mentioned it. I've never meet a person who served who wasen't proud of the fact that he or she did his or her part. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com I have.... you have what? Joe |
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