December 7th 1941
 

Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote:
katy wrote:

Joe wrote:
I

think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere
no-matter thier age.

Joe

I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the
active military either..


Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some
18-21 year olds?
I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was
kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed,
trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the
time), but did not trust me with booze or voting.

Joe




.TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on
active duty.


Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they should
not become cannon fodder for the country...for the most part, most at that
age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so are
fighting a fight for something they don't understand. I don't believe in
blind patriotism...


According to Joe, it's ok. I guess the 8 year olds in Africa are old enough
to serve in the military also.



I think 8's a bit young Jon.

But seeing how you never served I find it hard to respect your opinion
on the subject anyway.

Joe



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December 7th 1941
 

"Joe" wrote in message
ps.com...

Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote:
katy wrote:

Joe wrote:
I

think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink
anywere
no-matter thier age.

Joe

I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the
active military either..


Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some
18-21 year olds?
I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was
kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed,
trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the
time), but did not trust me with booze or voting.

Joe




.TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on
active duty.


Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they
should
not become cannon fodder for the country...for the most part, most at
that
age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so
are
fighting a fight for something they don't understand. I don't believe
in
blind patriotism...


According to Joe, it's ok. I guess the 8 year olds in Africa are old
enough
to serve in the military also.



I think 8's a bit young Jon.

But seeing how you never served I find it hard to respect your opinion
on the subject anyway.

Joe


How do you know I never served?

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

December 7th 1941
 

Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote:
katy wrote:

Joe wrote:
I

think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere
no-matter thier age.

Joe

I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the
active military either..


Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some
18-21 year olds?
I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was
kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed,
trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the
time), but did not trust me with booze or voting.

Joe




.TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on
active duty.


Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they should
not become cannon fodder for the country...for the most part, most at that
age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so are
fighting a fight for something they don't understand. I don't believe in
blind patriotism...


According to Joe, it's ok. I guess the 8 year olds in Africa are old enough
to serve in the military also.



I think 8's a bit young Jon.

But seeing how you never served I find it hard to respect your opinion
on the subject anyway.

Joe



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

December 7th 1941
 

Joe wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...

Joe wrote:

katy wrote:


Joe wrote:
I


think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere
no-matter thier age.

Joe

I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the
active military either..


Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some
18-21 year olds?
I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was
kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed,
trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the
time), but did not trust me with booze or voting.

Joe




.TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on

active duty.


Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they should
not become cannon fodder for the country...for the most part, most at that
age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so are
fighting a fight for something they don't understand. I don't believe in
blind patriotism...


According to Joe, it's ok. I guess the 8 year olds in Africa are old enough
to serve in the military also.




I think 8's a bit young Jon.

But seeing how you never served I find it hard to respect your opinion
on the subject anyway.

Joe




--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


There are plenty of people who didn't serve for whatever various
reasons...it does not mean they are any less Americans, any less
patriotic, or any less able to have an opinion on the subject. Having
served is a wonderful ting to have done, BUT it does not place you next
to the right hand of God, and does not elecate you to some kind of
special status. It does mean you are due respect for having served, but
that is all. The same respect is due all who serve: policemen, nurses,
diremen, and even cab drivers....

December 7th 1941
 

Capt. JG wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
ps.com...

Capt. JG wrote:
"katy" wrote in message
...
Joe wrote:
katy wrote:

Joe wrote:
I

think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink
anywere
no-matter thier age.

Joe

I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the
active military either..


Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some
18-21 year olds?
I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was
kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed,
trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the
time), but did not trust me with booze or voting.

Joe




.TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on
active duty.


Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they
should
not become cannon fodder for the country...for the most part, most at
that
age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so
are
fighting a fight for something they don't understand. I don't believe
in
blind patriotism...


According to Joe, it's ok. I guess the 8 year olds in Africa are old
enough
to serve in the military also.



I think 8's a bit young Jon.

But seeing how you never served I find it hard to respect your opinion
on the subject anyway.

Joe


How do you know I never served?

Easy.

Had you served you would have mentioned it. I've never meet a person
who served who wasen't proud of the fact that he or she did his or her
part.

Joe



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

December 7th 1941
 

katy wrote:
Joe wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...

Joe wrote:

katy wrote:


Joe wrote:
I


think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere
no-matter thier age.

Joe

I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the
active military either..


Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some
18-21 year olds?
I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was
kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed,
trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the
time), but did not trust me with booze or voting.

Joe




.TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on

active duty.


Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they should
not become cannon fodder for the country...for the most part, most at that
age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so are
fighting a fight for something they don't understand. I don't believe in
blind patriotism...


According to Joe, it's ok. I guess the 8 year olds in Africa are old enough
to serve in the military also.




I think 8's a bit young Jon.

But seeing how you never served I find it hard to respect your opinion
on the subject anyway.

Joe




--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


There are plenty of people who didn't serve for whatever various
reasons...it does not mean they are any less Americans, any less
patriotic, or any less able to have an opinion on the subject.

Wrong, but since you never served it is pointless in discussing the
issue with you,


Having
served is a wonderful ting to have done, BUT it does not place you next
to the right hand of God, and does not elecate you to some kind of
special status. It does mean you are due respect for having served, but
that is all. The same respect is due all who serve: policemen, nurses,
diremen, and even cab drivers....

Cab drivers.......You need to think that again, how many cab drivers
are willing to die for America? Sheeeeze guess you haven't been in a NY
taxi lately have you?

Joe

December 7th 1941
 

Joe wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Capt. JG wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...

Joe wrote:

katy wrote:


Joe wrote:
I


think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink
anywere
no-matter thier age.

Joe

I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the
active military either..


Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some
18-21 year olds?
I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was
kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed,
trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the
time), but did not trust me with booze or voting.

Joe




.TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on

active duty.


Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they
should
not become cannon fodder for the country...for the most part, most at
that
age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so
are
fighting a fight for something they don't understand. I don't believe
in
blind patriotism...


According to Joe, it's ok. I guess the 8 year olds in Africa are old
enough
to serve in the military also.



I think 8's a bit young Jon.

But seeing how you never served I find it hard to respect your opinion
on the subject anyway.

Joe


How do you know I never served?


Easy.

Had you served you would have mentioned it. I've never meet a person
who served who wasen't proud of the fact that he or she did his or her
part.

Joe



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


I have....

December 7th 1941
 

Joe wrote:
katy wrote:

Joe wrote:

Capt. JG wrote:


"katy" wrote in message
...


Joe wrote:


katy wrote:



Joe wrote:
I



think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink anywere
no-matter thier age.

Joe

I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the
active military either..


Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some
18-21 year olds?
I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was
kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed,
trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the
time), but did not trust me with booze or voting.

Joe




.TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on


active duty.


Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they should
not become cannon fodder for the country...for the most part, most at that
age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so are
fighting a fight for something they don't understand. I don't believe in
blind patriotism...


According to Joe, it's ok. I guess the 8 year olds in Africa are old enough
to serve in the military also.




I think 8's a bit young Jon.

But seeing how you never served I find it hard to respect your opinion
on the subject anyway.

Joe





--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


There are plenty of people who didn't serve for whatever various
reasons...it does not mean they are any less Americans, any less
patriotic, or any less able to have an opinion on the subject.


Wrong, but since you never served it is pointless in discussing the
issue with you,


Having

served is a wonderful ting to have done, BUT it does not place you next
to the right hand of God, and does not elecate you to some kind of
special status. It does mean you are due respect for having served, but
that is all. The same respect is due all who serve: policemen, nurses,
diremen, and even cab drivers....


Cab drivers.......You need to think that again, how many cab drivers
are willing to die for America? Sheeeeze guess you haven't been in a NY
taxi lately have you?

Joe

Have you ever seen how cab drivers are treated? Yes, tehy serve...and
yes, some are rude but they do their jobs...serving in the military is
just that...a job...my dad is not only a WW2 vet but was also a Federal
employee for 30 years...my brother served, my uncles served...so yes, I
do know...because I watched...so get off your little "special"
horse...you were doing your duty as you were asked to do...there are
plenty who did their duty elsewhere to support you in that effort andf
their claim to fame is just as valid as yours...

December 7th 1941
 

"Joe" wrote
Capt. JG wrote:

Please don't repeat his posts. I don't want to see them. They aren't worth seeing the first time.
That's why I blocked him..... Be a dear, Joe. Block him too. If enough people block him we'll be
rid of his bad influence.

Cheers,
Ellen

December 7th 1941
 

katy wrote:
Joe wrote:
Capt. JG wrote:

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Capt. JG wrote:

"katy" wrote in message
...

Joe wrote:

katy wrote:


Joe wrote:
I


think everone in the military should be able to vote and drink
anywere
no-matter thier age.

Joe

I fon't, but then I don't think chilfren of 16-17 should be in the
active military either..


Why not if they can do the job as well as.. if not better... than some
18-21 year olds?
I agree it's not for everyone, but I had no problems. Thought it was
kind of strange that my country would let me fight a war if needed,
trusted me to transfer nukes (i had a top secret clearence at the
time), but did not trust me with booze or voting.

Joe




.TORC and marching corps, fine, but not on

active duty.


Because children should not be sacrificed for adult concerns...they
should
not become cannon fodder for the country...for the most part, most at
that
age have had relatively little governemnt or civics in school and so
are
fighting a fight for something they don't understand. I don't believe
in
blind patriotism...


According to Joe, it's ok. I guess the 8 year olds in Africa are old
enough
to serve in the military also.



I think 8's a bit young Jon.

But seeing how you never served I find it hard to respect your opinion
on the subject anyway.

Joe


How do you know I never served?


Easy.

Had you served you would have mentioned it. I've never meet a person
who served who wasen't proud of the fact that he or she did his or her
part.

Joe



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com


I have....

you have what?

Joe