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Scotty November 28th 06 09:52 PM

Macisms
 
Is this the mantra of Mac, or just that goofball Jim?

''For example, I motored back to the marina at around 13
knots, despite
rather choppy water conditions, which gave me more time out
on the Bay
for sailing.''


HOLY CRAP !!!! Motor so you can sail more! ?? WTF is
that all about?

Scotty




Scotty November 28th 06 09:55 PM

Macisms
 
Another gem;

"I can get out to sailing areas at speeds of 13-14 knots,
and similarly
return to the dock after sailing, even in rather breezy
weather"


If it's ''rather breezy weather'' THEN SAIL THE ****ING BOAT
YOU MORON !!!!!!!!!!





"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Is this the mantra of Mac, or just that goofball Jim?

''For example, I motored back to the marina at around 13
knots, despite
rather choppy water conditions, which gave me more time

out
on the Bay
for sailing.''


HOLY CRAP !!!! Motor so you can sail more! ?? WTF is
that all about?

Scotty






Capt. JG November 28th 06 10:28 PM

Macisms
 
I tried to tell him. I really tried.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Another gem;

"I can get out to sailing areas at speeds of 13-14 knots,
and similarly
return to the dock after sailing, even in rather breezy
weather"


If it's ''rather breezy weather'' THEN SAIL THE ****ING BOAT
YOU MORON !!!!!!!!!!





"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Is this the mantra of Mac, or just that goofball Jim?

''For example, I motored back to the marina at around 13
knots, despite
rather choppy water conditions, which gave me more time

out
on the Bay
for sailing.''


HOLY CRAP !!!! Motor so you can sail more! ?? WTF is
that all about?

Scotty








Dry 1 November 28th 06 10:44 PM

Macisms
 
Try telling him what an Oxymoron is.

"Capt. JG" wrote:

I tried to tell him. I really tried.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Another gem;

"I can get out to sailing areas at speeds of 13-14 knots,
and similarly
return to the dock after sailing, even in rather breezy
weather"


If it's ''rather breezy weather'' THEN SAIL THE ****ING BOAT
YOU MORON !!!!!!!!!!





"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Is this the mantra of Mac, or just that goofball Jim?

''For example, I motored back to the marina at around 13
knots, despite
rather choppy water conditions, which gave me more time

out
on the Bay
for sailing.''


HOLY CRAP !!!! Motor so you can sail more! ?? WTF is
that all about?

Scotty







Gilligan November 29th 06 12:18 AM

Macisms
 
I think it is brilliant. The MacBoat design gets rid of the worst parts of
sailing and saves the best parts.

The MacBoat can evade danger, run inlets anytime and has a great
Euro-design.

When I trade up from my Bayliner Bucaneer, I'm going for a MacBoat.

The MacBoat is one of the design designs, both in utility and form, ever!



Capt. JG November 29th 06 12:30 AM

Macisms
 
I tried that too... sigh...

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"Dry 1" "spots are out "@ Vail's.com wrote in message
...
Try telling him what an Oxymoron is.

"Capt. JG" wrote:

I tried to tell him. I really tried.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Another gem;

"I can get out to sailing areas at speeds of 13-14 knots,
and similarly
return to the dock after sailing, even in rather breezy
weather"


If it's ''rather breezy weather'' THEN SAIL THE ****ING BOAT
YOU MORON !!!!!!!!!!





"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Is this the mantra of Mac, or just that goofball Jim?

''For example, I motored back to the marina at around 13
knots, despite
rather choppy water conditions, which gave me more time
out
on the Bay
for sailing.''


HOLY CRAP !!!! Motor so you can sail more! ?? WTF is
that all about?

Scotty









Capt. JG November 29th 06 12:30 AM

Macisms
 
Liar... you don't own a boat. :-)

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www.sailnow.com

"Gilligan" wrote in message
. ..
I think it is brilliant. The MacBoat design gets rid of the worst parts of
sailing and saves the best parts.

The MacBoat can evade danger, run inlets anytime and has a great
Euro-design.

When I trade up from my Bayliner Bucaneer, I'm going for a MacBoat.

The MacBoat is one of the design designs, both in utility and form, ever!




Gilligan November 29th 06 01:44 AM

Macisms
 

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Liar... you don't own a boat. :-)


Oops!



Scotty November 29th 06 02:06 AM

Macisms
 
You know , Gilly, the Mac 26XM may just be the right boat
for you.

Scotty


"Gilligan" wrote in
message . ..
I think it is brilliant. The MacBoat design gets rid of

the worst parts of
sailing and saves the best parts.

The MacBoat can evade danger, run inlets anytime and has a

great
Euro-design.

When I trade up from my Bayliner Bucaneer, I'm going for a

MacBoat.

The MacBoat is one of the design designs, both in utility

and form, ever!





Capt. JG November 29th 06 02:57 AM

Macisms
 
:-)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Gilligan" wrote in message
. ..

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Liar... you don't own a boat. :-)


Oops!





Capt. JG November 29th 06 02:57 AM

Macisms
 
I was thinking the same thing... almost as good as Neal's.

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
You know , Gilly, the Mac 26XM may just be the right boat
for you.

Scotty


"Gilligan" wrote in
message . ..
I think it is brilliant. The MacBoat design gets rid of

the worst parts of
sailing and saves the best parts.

The MacBoat can evade danger, run inlets anytime and has a

great
Euro-design.

When I trade up from my Bayliner Bucaneer, I'm going for a

MacBoat.

The MacBoat is one of the design designs, both in utility

and form, ever!







[email protected] November 29th 06 04:16 AM

Macisms
 

it tries to do everything, but does nothing well.


Hey CWM... like a "jack of all trades but a master at none"?

Bill

(who owns and sometimes trashes around aboard a Mac 26M
out in the Channel Islands of the coast of Oxnard and Ventura
California)


Scotty November 29th 06 12:26 PM

Macisms
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On 28 Nov 2006 20:16:52 -0800,

wrote:


it tries to do everything, but does nothing well.


Hey CWM... like a "jack of all trades but a master at

none"?

Bill


Not exactly. A Jack of all trades can be "pretty good" at

many things, just not
at the master level. That doesn't really fit this

situation.


a jackass of all trades?




JimC November 29th 06 07:32 PM

Macisms
 


Scotty wrote:
Is this the mantra of Mac, or just that goofball Jim?

''For example, I motored back to the marina at around 13
knots, despite
rather choppy water conditions, which gave me more time out
on the Bay
for sailing.''


HOLY CRAP !!!! Motor so you can sail more! ?? WTF is
that all about?

Scotty



Sotty, the problem with your theory is that you simply don't don't know
what you are talking about. - The boats in our various marinas (third
largest number of pleasure boats in the US) have to motor out through
several channels, including a marked channel that leads out to the
navigable areas of the Bay where most of us prefer to sail. Motoring out
at fairly high speeds gets us to the navigable, preferred sailing area
more quickly. Similarly, when coming back at the end of the day,
particularly during this time of year, the sun begins to set rather
early. Assuming we are coming back against the wind, which is often the
case, motoring back from far out in the Bay again gives me more time to
sail in the open, preferred sailing area, since the time getting back is
reduced. And, if my crew or guests are tired and want to get back ASAP,
or if I have to get back for various reasons, the ability to motor back
at 13-plus knots again permits more time to sail in the preferred
sailing area by reducing what is essentially transit time. (Of course, I
could sail back the entire way, including sailing back through all the
channels, if I had plenty of time and didn't mind dodging the traffic,
etc., getting back. - But I prefer to spend more time sailing in the
open, navigable portions of the Bay.)

Got it, Sotty? (But hey! Instead of admitting you were wrong, maybe, as
usual, you can come up with another stupid, specious argument that you
could use as another "gotcha" attempt to get some attaboy points from
your buddies.)

Jim

Capt. JG November 29th 06 07:50 PM

Macisms
 
But Jim, all you've been talking about is the Mac's motoring capabilities. I
don't think I've seen a picture of you sailing your fine vessel, nor have I
seen much if anything about sailing her. Seems to me Scotty is dead on
accurate.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"JimC" wrote in message
...


Scotty wrote:
Is this the mantra of Mac, or just that goofball Jim?

''For example, I motored back to the marina at around 13
knots, despite
rather choppy water conditions, which gave me more time out
on the Bay
for sailing.''


HOLY CRAP !!!! Motor so you can sail more! ?? WTF is
that all about?

Scotty



Sotty, the problem with your theory is that you simply don't don't know
what you are talking about. - The boats in our various marinas (third
largest number of pleasure boats in the US) have to motor out through
several channels, including a marked channel that leads out to the
navigable areas of the Bay where most of us prefer to sail. Motoring out
at fairly high speeds gets us to the navigable, preferred sailing area
more quickly. Similarly, when coming back at the end of the day,
particularly during this time of year, the sun begins to set rather early.
Assuming we are coming back against the wind, which is often the case,
motoring back from far out in the Bay again gives me more time to sail in
the open, preferred sailing area, since the time getting back is reduced.
And, if my crew or guests are tired and want to get back ASAP, or if I
have to get back for various reasons, the ability to motor back at 13-plus
knots again permits more time to sail in the preferred sailing area by
reducing what is essentially transit time. (Of course, I could sail back
the entire way, including sailing back through all the channels, if I had
plenty of time and didn't mind dodging the traffic, etc., getting back. -
But I prefer to spend more time sailing in the open, navigable portions of
the Bay.)

Got it, Sotty? (But hey! Instead of admitting you were wrong, maybe, as
usual, you can come up with another stupid, specious argument that you
could use as another "gotcha" attempt to get some attaboy points from your
buddies.)

Jim




Ellen MacArthur November 29th 06 07:52 PM

Macisms
 

"JimC" wrote
| Sotty, the problem with your theory is that you simply don't don't know
| what you are talking about. - The boats in our various marinas (third
| largest number of pleasure boats in the US) have to motor out through
| several channels, including a marked channel that leads out to the
| navigable areas of the Bay where most of us prefer to sail. Motoring out
| at fairly high speeds gets us to the navigable, preferred sailing area
| more quickly. Similarly, when coming back at the end of the day,
| particularly during this time of year, the sun begins to set rather
| early. Assuming we are coming back against the wind, which is often the
| case, motoring back from far out in the Bay again gives me more time to
| sail in the open, preferred sailing area, since the time getting back is
| reduced. And, if my crew or guests are tired and want to get back ASAP,
| or if I have to get back for various reasons, the ability to motor back
| at 13-plus knots again permits more time to sail in the preferred
| sailing area by reducing what is essentially transit time. (Of course, I
| could sail back the entire way, including sailing back through all the
| channels, if I had plenty of time and didn't mind dodging the traffic,
| etc., getting back. - But I prefer to spend more time sailing in the
| open, navigable portions of the Bay.)


Oh gag me with a spoon! Never mind the spoon. Just hearing you talk makes
we wanna gag. You must be Otn's son. Your every bit as stubborn and pig-headed.
And your stupid. You describe your situation and it's not a place for sailboats.
It's suited to motor boats. So get a motor boat. Don't get a pretend sailboat with a big
motor and expect sailors to welcome you with open arms. You made yourself a misfit!
I used to live way out in the country. It had dirt roads that got muddy with big
potholes and washboard when it rained. Nobody drove sports cars. They'd get stuck.
Everybody had jeeps or trucks with 4-wd. If some city slicker with a college
degree and a slip and fall law office tried to tell us their sports car was the way to
go and how happy they were with it we'd laugh in their face.
THAT's why people here are laughing in your face. You get no respect here. You
get less respect on the water. Duh! Get a clue. Do you work for the ACLU? If
not go. You'd be happy in their company. You won't get any respect there either.....

Cheers,
Ellen

JimC November 29th 06 08:48 PM

Macisms
 
Gee Ellen (or whoever you are), I'm sorry that my notes are disturbing
to you.- Sounds like it's getting to be a serious problem. - So, maybe
you should get the hell out of these Mac discussions. (No? Then don't
complain about your stomach problems.)

Jim



Ellen MacArthur wrote:

"JimC" wrote
| Sotty, the problem with your theory is that you simply don't don't know
| what you are talking about. - The boats in our various marinas (third
| largest number of pleasure boats in the US) have to motor out through
| several channels, including a marked channel that leads out to the
| navigable areas of the Bay where most of us prefer to sail. Motoring out
| at fairly high speeds gets us to the navigable, preferred sailing area
| more quickly. Similarly, when coming back at the end of the day,
| particularly during this time of year, the sun begins to set rather
| early. Assuming we are coming back against the wind, which is often the
| case, motoring back from far out in the Bay again gives me more time to
| sail in the open, preferred sailing area, since the time getting back is
| reduced. And, if my crew or guests are tired and want to get back ASAP,
| or if I have to get back for various reasons, the ability to motor back
| at 13-plus knots again permits more time to sail in the preferred
| sailing area by reducing what is essentially transit time. (Of course, I
| could sail back the entire way, including sailing back through all the
| channels, if I had plenty of time and didn't mind dodging the traffic,
| etc., getting back. - But I prefer to spend more time sailing in the
| open, navigable portions of the Bay.)


Oh gag me with a spoon! Never mind the spoon. Just hearing you talk makes
we wanna gag. You must be Otn's son. Your every bit as stubborn and pig-headed.
And your stupid. You describe your situation and it's not a place for sailboats.
It's suited to motor boats. So get a motor boat. Don't get a pretend sailboat with a big
motor and expect sailors to welcome you with open arms. You made yourself a misfit!
I used to live way out in the country. It had dirt roads that got muddy with big
potholes and washboard when it rained. Nobody drove sports cars. They'd get stuck.
Everybody had jeeps or trucks with 4-wd. If some city slicker with a college
degree and a slip and fall law office tried to tell us their sports car was the way to
go and how happy they were with it we'd laugh in their face.
THAT's why people here are laughing in your face. You get no respect here. You
get less respect on the water. Duh! Get a clue. Do you work for the ACLU? If
not go. You'd be happy in their company. You won't get any respect there either.....

Cheers,
Ellen


Ellen MacArthur November 29th 06 09:35 PM

Macisms
 

"JimC" wrote
| Gee Ellen (or whoever you are), I'm sorry that my notes are disturbing
| to you.- Sounds like it's getting to be a serious problem. - So, maybe
| you should get the hell out of these Mac discussions. (No? Then don't
| complain about your stomach problems.)


I don't know what world your living in. But, in my world a spoon doesn't gag by going
into the stomach. It gags when it hits the back of the throat. Duh!
In a way a MacGregor 26 is like a spoon. Except it gags people when it gets in their
eyesight. Get on your moped and ride away little lawyer..... This is a sailors news group.
Not a motor boat news group. Why don't you try this one? ---- uk.rec.boats.motor
Or this one ------ alt.lawyers.sue.sue.sue It's where you belong, not here.....

Cheers,
Ellen

JimC November 30th 06 07:18 PM

Macisms
 


Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"JimC" wrote
| Gee Ellen (or whoever you are), I'm sorry that my notes are disturbing
| to you.- Sounds like it's getting to be a serious problem. - So, maybe
| you should get the hell out of these Mac discussions. (No? Then don't
| complain about your stomach problems.)


I don't know what world your living in. But, in my world a spoon doesn't gag by going
into the stomach. It gags when it hits the back of the throat. Duh!
In a way a MacGregor 26 is like a spoon. Except it gags people when it gets in their
eyesight. Get on your moped and ride away little lawyer..... This is a sailors news group.
Not a motor boat news group. Why don't you try this one? ---- uk.rec.boats.motor
Or this one ------ alt.lawyers.sue.sue.sue It's where you belong, not here.....

Cheers,
Ellen


Ellen (or whoever), I've been posting to this ng for a number of years,
and I'm not going to leave. If my notes disturb you, then don't read
them. (Incidentally, have you considered getting some professional
help? Sounds like that's what you need)

One more time. - You are not going to intimidate me or drive me away
from the ng. = Get used to it.

Jim

Ellen MacArthur November 30th 06 07:37 PM

Macisms
 

"JimC" wrote
One more time. - You are not going to intimidate me or drive me away from the ng.



Darn! Oh well, it was worth trying it..... I was hoping you'd leave. Along with Capt. JG and Katy.
That'd be a good start. It'd lower the static noise. People would spend less time deleting posts.
I got one of my wishes when Capt. Rob left. I think he knew I was right. He knew he had nothing but
lies to offer. Him and his sock puppet Mooron. So you can't blame a girl for trying it again. :-)

Cheers,
Ellen



[email protected] November 30th 06 08:04 PM

Macisms
 
Jonathan... You might find this post on our Mac web site kind
of interesting... since this guy (Leon) operates in your neighbor-
hood.

His Mac "Rusalka" is a 2005 26M with an E-Tec50 for power:

"Well, I had a few test runs with the new Quantum Fusion X sails
and am very pleased so far. Less, heel, more speed, great shape,
less weather helm, and did I mention they're fast?

Last Friday, the Admiral and I motored out of SF Bay, past the
Golden Gate into open ocean. The swells were 6-9 ft. with winds
15-20 knts. We sailed for about an hour on a beam reach with full
main & jib. Speeds ranged from 8.5-9.3 mph, touching 10 mph briefly
on a couple of occasions. Heel averaged 25-30 degrees.

I could have reduced this by flattening the main and opening up
the jib, but didn't want to bother. (would need to heave-to to get
to the outhaull and just wanted to keep going due to the short
days... it was late afternoon.)

Going back, we were close reaching, full main, 2/3 jib, going against
the swells, averaging 5.5 mph. Heel was 25-35 degrees... no roundups
but some weather helm. I tried sailing through the Golden Gate, that
point on a very broad reach but just didn't have enough power. The
tide was slack, so I was going against it, the wind died down and I
got caught in the middle of the infamous "Potato Patch."

It was time for the iron genny, which got us through. The coast
guard circled around, asking us if we were OK... I told him we were
fine. He then came to help another sail boat which hadn't the power
to make it back through the gate. It looked like he was setting up to
tow him.

I felt bad for the guy, but was really happy to have a Mac with the
big OB. Several other sailboats were sailing backwards. The only guy
who made it without auxilliary power was a guy flying a big spinnkaer.

As for the Dutchman system, the jury is still out. It sort of does
what it is supposed to do, but not quite what I expected. The sales
rep cautioned me that it will take some time until the sail develops
a "memory" and the Dutchman will work much better. While the sail
is new and really stiff, it won't quite work like it is supposed to.

All in all, I am a very happy camper and would recommend these
sails to anyone looking for high performance and/or sails in big winds.


Fair Winds & Happy Holidays to all you Mac-ers,

Leon"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Any how I thought it kind of an interesting read... and of course
Mac related. Something that Jim C. and I would appreciate. :-)

Best regards

Bill


katy November 30th 06 08:09 PM

Macisms
 
Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"JimC" wrote

One more time. - You are not going to intimidate me or drive me away from the ng.




Darn! Oh well, it was worth trying it..... I was hoping you'd leave. Along with Capt. JG and Katy.
That'd be a good start. It'd lower the static noise. People would spend less time deleting posts.
I got one of my wishes when Capt. Rob left. I think he knew I was right. He knew he had nothing but
lies to offer. Him and his sock puppet Mooron. So you can't blame a girl for trying it again. :-)

Cheers,
Ellen


Not smart enough to use your kullfile? Or just a glutton for punishment?

John Phlegm November 30th 06 08:21 PM

Macisms
 
Ellen,

Do you wear panties?

Johnny Phlegm



Ellen MacArthur November 30th 06 09:43 PM

Macisms
 

"John Phlegm" wrote
Do you wear panties?



Of course I do. It depends on the outfit what kind. Mostly I wear thongs. Victoria's Secret has good ones.....
I'm partial to the low-rise kind. You can wear them with low-rise jeans and skirts that are popular these days.
http://www2.victoriassecret.com/coll...HGZZZ&page=all


Cheers,
Ellen



JimC November 30th 06 11:01 PM

Macisms
 


wrote:

Jonathan... You might find this post on our Mac web site kind
of interesting... since this guy (Leon) operates in your neighbor-
hood.

His Mac "Rusalka" is a 2005 26M with an E-Tec50 for power:

"Well, I had a few test runs with the new Quantum Fusion X sails
and am very pleased so far. Less, heel, more speed, great shape,
less weather helm, and did I mention they're fast?

Last Friday, the Admiral and I motored out of SF Bay, past the
Golden Gate into open ocean. The swells were 6-9 ft. with winds
15-20 knts. We sailed for about an hour on a beam reach with full
main & jib. Speeds ranged from 8.5-9.3 mph, touching 10 mph briefly
on a couple of occasions. Heel averaged 25-30 degrees.

I could have reduced this by flattening the main and opening up
the jib, but didn't want to bother. (would need to heave-to to get
to the outhaull and just wanted to keep going due to the short
days... it was late afternoon.)

Going back, we were close reaching, full main, 2/3 jib, going against
the swells, averaging 5.5 mph. Heel was 25-35 degrees... no roundups
but some weather helm. I tried sailing through the Golden Gate, that
point on a very broad reach but just didn't have enough power. The
tide was slack, so I was going against it, the wind died down and I
got caught in the middle of the infamous "Potato Patch."

It was time for the iron genny, which got us through. The coast
guard circled around, asking us if we were OK... I told him we were
fine. He then came to help another sail boat which hadn't the power
to make it back through the gate. It looked like he was setting up to
tow him.

I felt bad for the guy, but was really happy to have a Mac with the
big OB. Several other sailboats were sailing backwards. The only guy
who made it without auxilliary power was a guy flying a big spinnkaer.

As for the Dutchman system, the jury is still out. It sort of does
what it is supposed to do, but not quite what I expected. The sales
rep cautioned me that it will take some time until the sail develops
a "memory" and the Dutchman will work much better. While the sail
is new and really stiff, it won't quite work like it is supposed to.

All in all, I am a very happy camper and would recommend these
sails to anyone looking for high performance and/or sails in big winds.


Fair Winds & Happy Holidays to all you Mac-ers,

Leon"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Any how I thought it kind of an interesting read... and of course
Mac related. Something that Jim C. and I would appreciate. :-)

Best regards

Bill


That's an interesting trip report, Bill.-Thanks. I was out last week in
15 knot winds, and the 26M does seem to settle down at a given level of
heel (around 20 - 22 degrees in that case) in a good wind.

Jim

JimC November 30th 06 11:34 PM

Macisms
 


Capt. JG wrote:

But Jim, all you've been talking about is the Mac's motoring capabilities. I
don't think I've seen a picture of you sailing your fine vessel, nor have I
seen much if anything about sailing her. Seems to me Scotty is dead on
accurate.


Actually, I have discussed sailing the Mac a number of times. But the
particular note from Scotty that I was responding to:


"If it's ''rather breezy weather'' THEN SAIL THE ****ING BOAT
YOU MORON !!!!!!!!!!"


related to my comments about the advantages under some conditions of
motoring back at high speeds (after a day's sail). Naturally, my
response related to the subject that seemed of interest to Scotty.

- As to pictures of me sailing the Mac, I haven't figured out how to
manage that, JG. Our sailing area in Galveston Bay is over a nm beyond
the inlet. (We have shallow and irregular bottoms closer to shore.) I'll
find someone someday who could take pictures someday. There are some
possibilities closer in, but they are shallow, and I don't want to risk
damaging my daggerboard. Meanwhile, my wife has adamently refused to
take pictures of the boat while sitting on a raft as I sail by. - Any
suggestions? But tell me, Capt., why would you want to see pictures of
a crappy boat like the Mac anyway?

Jim

Ellen MacArthur November 30th 06 11:42 PM

Macisms
 

"JimC" wrote
why would you want to see pictures of a crappy boat like the Mac anyway?



Amen

Cheers,
Ellen



[email protected] December 1st 06 12:02 AM

Macisms
 
That's an interesting trip report...

Tnx Jim... But that was "delevi's" November 30th post under
his thread titled "Quantum Sails" on the www.macgregorsailors.com
discussion group.

You may have talked to him in the past... he is pretty active.

Best regards

Bill


Capt. JG December 1st 06 04:02 AM

Macisms
 
I do it all the time. Camera in one, the other hand on the wheel.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"JimC" wrote in message
om...


Capt. JG wrote:

But Jim, all you've been talking about is the Mac's motoring
capabilities. I don't think I've seen a picture of you sailing your fine
vessel, nor have I seen much if anything about sailing her. Seems to me
Scotty is dead on accurate.


Actually, I have discussed sailing the Mac a number of times. But the
particular note from Scotty that I was responding to:


"If it's ''rather breezy weather'' THEN SAIL THE ****ING BOAT
YOU MORON !!!!!!!!!!"


related to my comments about the advantages under some conditions of
motoring back at high speeds (after a day's sail). Naturally, my response
related to the subject that seemed of interest to Scotty.

- As to pictures of me sailing the Mac, I haven't figured out how to
manage that, JG. Our sailing area in Galveston Bay is over a nm beyond the
inlet. (We have shallow and irregular bottoms closer to shore.) I'll find
someone someday who could take pictures someday. There are some
possibilities closer in, but they are shallow, and I don't want to risk
damaging my daggerboard. Meanwhile, my wife has adamently refused to take
pictures of the boat while sitting on a raft as I sail by. - Any
suggestions? But tell me, Capt., why would you want to see pictures of a
crappy boat like the Mac anyway?

Jim




Capt. JG December 1st 06 04:03 AM

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Please don't leave. Scotty has to have something to do.

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"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"JimC" wrote in message
. com...


Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"JimC" wrote | Gee Ellen (or whoever you are),
I'm sorry that my notes are disturbing | to you.- Sounds like it's
getting to be a serious problem. - So, maybe | you should get the hell
out of these Mac discussions. (No? Then don't | complain about your
stomach problems.)


I don't know what world your living in. But, in my world a spoon
doesn't gag by going into the stomach. It gags when it hits the back of
the throat. Duh!
In a way a MacGregor 26 is like a spoon. Except it gags people when
it gets in their
eyesight. Get on your moped and ride away little lawyer..... This is a
sailors news group.
Not a motor boat news group. Why don't you try this one? ----
uk.rec.boats.motor Or this one ------ alt.lawyers.sue.sue.sue It's
where you belong, not here.....

Cheers,
Ellen


Ellen (or whoever), I've been posting to this ng for a number of years,
and I'm not going to leave. If my notes disturb you, then don't read
them. (Incidentally, have you considered getting some professional help?
Sounds like that's what you need)

One more time. - You are not going to intimidate me or drive me away from
the ng. = Get used to it.

Jim




Capt. JG December 1st 06 04:04 AM

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Maybe I'll look him up and we can have a tandem sail.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

wrote in message
ups.com...
Jonathan... You might find this post on our Mac web site kind
of interesting... since this guy (Leon) operates in your neighbor-
hood.

His Mac "Rusalka" is a 2005 26M with an E-Tec50 for power:

"Well, I had a few test runs with the new Quantum Fusion X sails
and am very pleased so far. Less, heel, more speed, great shape,
less weather helm, and did I mention they're fast?

Last Friday, the Admiral and I motored out of SF Bay, past the
Golden Gate into open ocean. The swells were 6-9 ft. with winds
15-20 knts. We sailed for about an hour on a beam reach with full
main & jib. Speeds ranged from 8.5-9.3 mph, touching 10 mph briefly
on a couple of occasions. Heel averaged 25-30 degrees.

I could have reduced this by flattening the main and opening up
the jib, but didn't want to bother. (would need to heave-to to get
to the outhaull and just wanted to keep going due to the short
days... it was late afternoon.)

Going back, we were close reaching, full main, 2/3 jib, going against
the swells, averaging 5.5 mph. Heel was 25-35 degrees... no roundups
but some weather helm. I tried sailing through the Golden Gate, that
point on a very broad reach but just didn't have enough power. The
tide was slack, so I was going against it, the wind died down and I
got caught in the middle of the infamous "Potato Patch."

It was time for the iron genny, which got us through. The coast
guard circled around, asking us if we were OK... I told him we were
fine. He then came to help another sail boat which hadn't the power
to make it back through the gate. It looked like he was setting up to
tow him.

I felt bad for the guy, but was really happy to have a Mac with the
big OB. Several other sailboats were sailing backwards. The only guy
who made it without auxilliary power was a guy flying a big spinnkaer.

As for the Dutchman system, the jury is still out. It sort of does
what it is supposed to do, but not quite what I expected. The sales
rep cautioned me that it will take some time until the sail develops
a "memory" and the Dutchman will work much better. While the sail
is new and really stiff, it won't quite work like it is supposed to.

All in all, I am a very happy camper and would recommend these
sails to anyone looking for high performance and/or sails in big winds.


Fair Winds & Happy Holidays to all you Mac-ers,

Leon"
--------------------------------------------------------------------------

Any how I thought it kind of an interesting read... and of course
Mac related. Something that Jim C. and I would appreciate. :-)

Best regards

Bill




Ellen MacArthur December 1st 06 04:07 AM

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"Capt. JG" wrote
I do it all the time. dick in one, the other hand on the wheel.



It figures......

Cheers,
Ellen roflao



Ellen MacArthur December 1st 06 04:09 AM

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"Capt. JG" wrote
Maybe I'll look him up and we can have a tandem nail.



It figures......

Cheers,
Ellen roflao






Scotty December 3rd 06 12:51 AM

Macisms
 

"JimC" wrote in message
...


Scotty wrote:
Is this the mantra of Mac, or just that goofball Jim?

''For example, I motored back to the marina at around 13
knots, despite
rather choppy water conditions, which gave me more time

out
on the Bay
for sailing.''


HOLY CRAP !!!! Motor so you can sail more! ?? WTF

is
that all about?

Scotty



Sotty, the problem with your theory snipped without

reading further


THEORY? WTF theory are you talking about? I only quoted
the MacCrap that you spewed, MotorHead!




Scotty December 3rd 06 12:54 AM

Macisms
 

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
message
reenews.ne
t...

"JimC" wrote
why would you want to see pictures of a crappy boat like

the Mac anyway?

for laughs & giggles?



JimC December 3rd 06 04:43 AM

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Scotty wrote:
"JimC" wrote in message
...


Scotty wrote:

Is this the mantra of Mac, or just that goofball Jim?

''For example, I motored back to the marina at around 13
knots, despite
rather choppy water conditions, which gave me more time


out

on the Bay
for sailing.''


HOLY CRAP !!!! Motor so you can sail more! ?? WTF


is

that all about?

Scotty



Sotty, the problem with your theory snipped without


reading further


THEORY? WTF theory are you talking about? I only quoted
the MacCrap that you spewed, MotorHead!


You still don't get it Scotty, and you're not even willing to read the
X*X*X note. If you ever do, come back and we can discuss it. (Oh, I
forgot. - You aren't going to read the note, cause you're just way too
important to learn anything from a Mac sailor, and you would never
admit it if you did.)

Jim

Jim

Jim

Capt. JG December 3rd 06 05:11 AM

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Mac sailor??? oxymoron? :-)

--
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www.sailnow.com

"JimC" wrote in message
...


Scotty wrote:
"JimC" wrote in message
...


Scotty wrote:

Is this the mantra of Mac, or just that goofball Jim?

''For example, I motored back to the marina at around 13
knots, despite
rather choppy water conditions, which gave me more time


out

on the Bay
for sailing.''


HOLY CRAP !!!! Motor so you can sail more! ?? WTF


is

that all about?

Scotty


Sotty, the problem with your theory snipped without


reading further


THEORY? WTF theory are you talking about? I only quoted
the MacCrap that you spewed, MotorHead!


You still don't get it Scotty, and you're not even willing to read the
X*X*X note. If you ever do, come back and we can discuss it. (Oh, I
forgot. - You aren't going to read the note, cause you're just way too
important to learn anything from a Mac sailor, and you would never admit
it if you did.)

Jim

Jim

Jim




Scotty December 3rd 06 05:39 AM

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"JimC" wrote in message
...



THEORY? WTF theory are you talking about? I only

quoted
the MacCrap that you spewed, MotorHead!


You still don't get it Scotty,


Yes I do, just not as often.

SBV



Maxprop December 3rd 06 04:15 PM

Macisms
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"JimC" wrote in message
...



THEORY? WTF theory are you talking about? I only

quoted
the MacCrap that you spewed, MotorHead!


You still don't get it Scotty,


Yes I do, just not as often.


Is it a matter of just not asking for it, or does she simply refuse?

Max



katy December 3rd 06 04:35 PM

Macisms
 
Maxprop wrote:
"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"JimC" wrote in message
...


THEORY? WTF theory are you talking about? I only


quoted

the MacCrap that you spewed, MotorHead!

You still don't get it Scotty,


Yes I do, just not as often.



Is it a matter of just not asking for it, or does she simply refuse?

Max


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