I was thinking the same thing... almost as good as Neal's.

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
You know , Gilly, the Mac 26XM may just be the right boat
for you.

Scotty


"Gilligan" wrote in
message . ..
I think it is brilliant. The MacBoat design gets rid of
the worst parts of
sailing and saves the best parts.

The MacBoat can evade danger, run inlets anytime and has a
great
Euro-design.

When I trade up from my Bayliner Bucaneer, I'm going for a
MacBoat.

The MacBoat is one of the design designs, both in utility
and form, ever!

it tries to do everything, but does nothing well.

Hey CWM... like a "jack of all trades but a master at none"?

Bill

(who owns and sometimes trashes around aboard a Mac 26M
out in the Channel Islands of the coast of Oxnard and Ventura
California)

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...
On 28 Nov 2006 20:16:52 -0800,
wrote:


it tries to do everything, but does nothing well.

Hey CWM... like a "jack of all trades but a master at
none"?

Bill


Not exactly. A Jack of all trades can be "pretty good" at
many things, just not
at the master level. That doesn't really fit this
situation.


a jackass of all trades?

Scotty wrote:
Is this the mantra of Mac, or just that goofball Jim?

''For example, I motored back to the marina at around 13
knots, despite
rather choppy water conditions, which gave me more time out
on the Bay
for sailing.''


HOLY CRAP !!!! Motor so you can sail more! ?? WTF is
that all about?

Scotty


Sotty, the problem with your theory is that you simply don't don't know
what you are talking about. - The boats in our various marinas (third
largest number of pleasure boats in the US) have to motor out through
several channels, including a marked channel that leads out to the
navigable areas of the Bay where most of us prefer to sail. Motoring out
at fairly high speeds gets us to the navigable, preferred sailing area
more quickly. Similarly, when coming back at the end of the day,
particularly during this time of year, the sun begins to set rather
early. Assuming we are coming back against the wind, which is often the
case, motoring back from far out in the Bay again gives me more time to
sail in the open, preferred sailing area, since the time getting back is
reduced. And, if my crew or guests are tired and want to get back ASAP,
or if I have to get back for various reasons, the ability to motor back
at 13-plus knots again permits more time to sail in the preferred
sailing area by reducing what is essentially transit time. (Of course, I
could sail back the entire way, including sailing back through all the
channels, if I had plenty of time and didn't mind dodging the traffic,
etc., getting back. - But I prefer to spend more time sailing in the
open, navigable portions of the Bay.)

Got it, Sotty? (But hey! Instead of admitting you were wrong, maybe, as
usual, you can come up with another stupid, specious argument that you
could use as another "gotcha" attempt to get some attaboy points from
your buddies.)

Jim

But Jim, all you've been talking about is the Mac's motoring capabilities. I
don't think I've seen a picture of you sailing your fine vessel, nor have I
seen much if anything about sailing her. Seems to me Scotty is dead on
accurate.

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"JimC" wrote in message
...


Scotty wrote:
Is this the mantra of Mac, or just that goofball Jim?

''For example, I motored back to the marina at around 13
knots, despite
rather choppy water conditions, which gave me more time out
on the Bay
for sailing.''


HOLY CRAP !!!! Motor so you can sail more! ?? WTF is
that all about?

Scotty


Sotty, the problem with your theory is that you simply don't don't know
what you are talking about. - The boats in our various marinas (third
largest number of pleasure boats in the US) have to motor out through
several channels, including a marked channel that leads out to the
navigable areas of the Bay where most of us prefer to sail. Motoring out
at fairly high speeds gets us to the navigable, preferred sailing area
more quickly. Similarly, when coming back at the end of the day,
particularly during this time of year, the sun begins to set rather early.
Assuming we are coming back against the wind, which is often the case,
motoring back from far out in the Bay again gives me more time to sail in
the open, preferred sailing area, since the time getting back is reduced.
And, if my crew or guests are tired and want to get back ASAP, or if I
have to get back for various reasons, the ability to motor back at 13-plus
knots again permits more time to sail in the preferred sailing area by
reducing what is essentially transit time. (Of course, I could sail back
the entire way, including sailing back through all the channels, if I had
plenty of time and didn't mind dodging the traffic, etc., getting back. -
But I prefer to spend more time sailing in the open, navigable portions of
the Bay.)

Got it, Sotty? (But hey! Instead of admitting you were wrong, maybe, as
usual, you can come up with another stupid, specious argument that you
could use as another "gotcha" attempt to get some attaboy points from your
buddies.)

Jim

"JimC" wrote
| Sotty, the problem with your theory is that you simply don't don't know
| what you are talking about. - The boats in our various marinas (third
| largest number of pleasure boats in the US) have to motor out through
| several channels, including a marked channel that leads out to the
| navigable areas of the Bay where most of us prefer to sail. Motoring out
| at fairly high speeds gets us to the navigable, preferred sailing area
| more quickly. Similarly, when coming back at the end of the day,
| particularly during this time of year, the sun begins to set rather
| early. Assuming we are coming back against the wind, which is often the
| case, motoring back from far out in the Bay again gives me more time to
| sail in the open, preferred sailing area, since the time getting back is
| reduced. And, if my crew or guests are tired and want to get back ASAP,
| or if I have to get back for various reasons, the ability to motor back
| at 13-plus knots again permits more time to sail in the preferred
| sailing area by reducing what is essentially transit time. (Of course, I
| could sail back the entire way, including sailing back through all the
| channels, if I had plenty of time and didn't mind dodging the traffic,
| etc., getting back. - But I prefer to spend more time sailing in the
| open, navigable portions of the Bay.)


Oh gag me with a spoon! Never mind the spoon. Just hearing you talk makes
we wanna gag. You must be Otn's son. Your every bit as stubborn and pig-headed.
And your stupid. You describe your situation and it's not a place for sailboats.
It's suited to motor boats. So get a motor boat. Don't get a pretend sailboat with a big
motor and expect sailors to welcome you with open arms. You made yourself a misfit!
I used to live way out in the country. It had dirt roads that got muddy with big
potholes and washboard when it rained. Nobody drove sports cars. They'd get stuck.
Everybody had jeeps or trucks with 4-wd. If some city slicker with a college
degree and a slip and fall law office tried to tell us their sports car was the way to
go and how happy they were with it we'd laugh in their face.
THAT's why people here are laughing in your face. You get no respect here. You
get less respect on the water. Duh! Get a clue. Do you work for the ACLU? If
not go. You'd be happy in their company. You won't get any respect there either.....

Cheers,
Ellen

Gee Ellen (or whoever you are), I'm sorry that my notes are disturbing
to you.- Sounds like it's getting to be a serious problem. - So, maybe
you should get the hell out of these Mac discussions. (No? Then don't
complain about your stomach problems.)

Jim



Ellen MacArthur wrote:

"JimC" wrote
| Sotty, the problem with your theory is that you simply don't don't know
| what you are talking about. - The boats in our various marinas (third
| largest number of pleasure boats in the US) have to motor out through
| several channels, including a marked channel that leads out to the
| navigable areas of the Bay where most of us prefer to sail. Motoring out
| at fairly high speeds gets us to the navigable, preferred sailing area
| more quickly. Similarly, when coming back at the end of the day,
| particularly during this time of year, the sun begins to set rather
| early. Assuming we are coming back against the wind, which is often the
| case, motoring back from far out in the Bay again gives me more time to
| sail in the open, preferred sailing area, since the time getting back is
| reduced. And, if my crew or guests are tired and want to get back ASAP,
| or if I have to get back for various reasons, the ability to motor back
| at 13-plus knots again permits more time to sail in the preferred
| sailing area by reducing what is essentially transit time. (Of course, I
| could sail back the entire way, including sailing back through all the
| channels, if I had plenty of time and didn't mind dodging the traffic,
| etc., getting back. - But I prefer to spend more time sailing in the
| open, navigable portions of the Bay.)


Oh gag me with a spoon! Never mind the spoon. Just hearing you talk makes
we wanna gag. You must be Otn's son. Your every bit as stubborn and pig-headed.
And your stupid. You describe your situation and it's not a place for sailboats.
It's suited to motor boats. So get a motor boat. Don't get a pretend sailboat with a big
motor and expect sailors to welcome you with open arms. You made yourself a misfit!
I used to live way out in the country. It had dirt roads that got muddy with big
potholes and washboard when it rained. Nobody drove sports cars. They'd get stuck.
Everybody had jeeps or trucks with 4-wd. If some city slicker with a college
degree and a slip and fall law office tried to tell us their sports car was the way to
go and how happy they were with it we'd laugh in their face.
THAT's why people here are laughing in your face. You get no respect here. You
get less respect on the water. Duh! Get a clue. Do you work for the ACLU? If
not go. You'd be happy in their company. You won't get any respect there either.....

Cheers,
Ellen

"JimC" wrote
| Gee Ellen (or whoever you are), I'm sorry that my notes are disturbing
| to you.- Sounds like it's getting to be a serious problem. - So, maybe
| you should get the hell out of these Mac discussions. (No? Then don't
| complain about your stomach problems.)


I don't know what world your living in. But, in my world a spoon doesn't gag by going
into the stomach. It gags when it hits the back of the throat. Duh!
In a way a MacGregor 26 is like a spoon. Except it gags people when it gets in their
eyesight. Get on your moped and ride away little lawyer..... This is a sailors news group.
Not a motor boat news group. Why don't you try this one? ---- uk.rec.boats.motor
Or this one ------ alt.lawyers.sue.sue.sue It's where you belong, not here.....

Cheers,
Ellen

Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"JimC" wrote
| Gee Ellen (or whoever you are), I'm sorry that my notes are disturbing
| to you.- Sounds like it's getting to be a serious problem. - So, maybe
| you should get the hell out of these Mac discussions. (No? Then don't
| complain about your stomach problems.)


I don't know what world your living in. But, in my world a spoon doesn't gag by going
into the stomach. It gags when it hits the back of the throat. Duh!
In a way a MacGregor 26 is like a spoon. Except it gags people when it gets in their
eyesight. Get on your moped and ride away little lawyer..... This is a sailors news group.
Not a motor boat news group. Why don't you try this one? ---- uk.rec.boats.motor
Or this one ------ alt.lawyers.sue.sue.sue It's where you belong, not here.....

Cheers,
Ellen

Ellen (or whoever), I've been posting to this ng for a number of years,
and I'm not going to leave. If my notes disturb you, then don't read
them. (Incidentally, have you considered getting some professional
help? Sounds like that's what you need)

One more time. - You are not going to intimidate me or drive me away
from the ng. = Get used to it.

Jim

"JimC" wrote
One more time. - You are not going to intimidate me or drive me away from the ng.


Darn! Oh well, it was worth trying it..... I was hoping you'd leave. Along with Capt. JG and Katy.
That'd be a good start. It'd lower the static noise. People would spend less time deleting posts.
I got one of my wishes when Capt. Rob left. I think he knew I was right. He knew he had nothing but
lies to offer. Him and his sock puppet Mooron. So you can't blame a girl for trying it again. :-)

Cheers,
Ellen