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Ellen MacArthur November 28th 06 03:30 PM

whipping or dipping?
 

"Martin Baxter" wrote
| In a diesel?
|
| Yes

Even I know diesels don't have spark plugs. But diesels squash the air so hard
it gets hot. It gets so hot the diesel fuel that's squirted in from the injector catches
on fire and burns. It doesn't really explode. It just burns faster than gasoline. It only
burns along the sides towards the middle because there's no air in the middle of the
fuel. That's why diesels make that rattling noise.

Cheers,
Ellen

Ellen MacArthur November 28th 06 03:31 PM

whipping or dipping?
 

"Martin Baxter" wrote
| Nylon for sheets? You must be mistaken, Dacron maybe but surely not
| stretchy nylon.

Egyptian Cotton makes the best sheets. :-)

Cheers,
Ellen

Capt. JG November 28th 06 03:40 PM

whipping or dipping?
 
Wouldn't that be anti-duck tape or a shotgun?

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"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
If it does, I simply put more duck tape over the quacks.

Scotty

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Does it quack?

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"Scotty" wrote in message
...
I use duck tape.

Scotty


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I have several lines on my boat that were whipped
properly, and they're a
beautiful sight. However, when I replaced my fender

lines
recently, I dipped
the ends instead of taking the time to whip them. So

far,
it seems just
fine, the only difference seeming to be the asthetic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whipping_knot

or



http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...rvlet/SiteSear

chView?catalogId=10001&Ntx=mode%2Bmatchallpartial& keyword=wh

ipping&Ntt=whipping&N=0&storeId=10001&Ntk=All_2&dd key=SiteSe
arch

(http://tinyurl.com/ycx7os)

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Walt November 28th 06 04:07 PM

whipping or dipping?
 
Martin Baxter wrote:
Joe wrote:


Hemp is tried and true..but I use nylon for sheets, cept the 100% jib
sheet it's big high tech, and the halyards they are stainless. I'm not
racing and like a bit of forgiveness. Nylons cheap and a pleasure to
work with.


Nylon for sheets? You must be mistaken, Dacron maybe but surely not
stretchy nylon.


Nylon sheets? Yee gad. Joe is as ignorant about sailing as he is about
politics.

Ok folks, let's take it from the beginning:

Sheets, halyards, control lines: Stretch BAD!

Docklines, towlines: Stretch GOOD!


Don't use stretchy nylon for sheets, and don't use low stretch
polyester/dacron for docklines. The high-tech ultra low stretch cordage
(e.g. technora, dynema, et al) is a bit better than polyester in some
situations, expensive unnecessary overkill in others.

//Walt

Martin Baxter November 28th 06 04:13 PM

whipping or dipping?
 
Ellen MacArthur wrote:

"Martin Baxter" ? wrote
| ? In a diesel?
|
| Yes

Even I know diesels don't have spark plugs. But diesels squash the air so hard
it gets hot. It gets so hot the diesel fuel that's squirted in from the injector catches
on fire and burns. It doesn't really explode. It just burns faster than gasoline. It only
burns along the sides towards the middle because there's no air in the middle of the
fuel. That's why diesels make that rattling noise.


As usual, you have an inkling, but manage to screw it up. google some
more, or have a look at:

http://www.diesel-central.com/News/cackle.htm

Cheers
Marty
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Martin Baxter November 28th 06 04:15 PM

whipping or dipping?
 
Ellen MacArthur wrote:

"Martin Baxter" ? wrote
| Nylon for sheets? You must be mistaken, Dacron maybe but surely not
| stretchy nylon.

Egyptian Cotton makes the best sheets. :-)


Deepends somewhat on whether one wants to sleep or engage in some other
activity. ;-o

In Canada we like flannel about 9 months of the year, or deer pelts.

Cheers
Marty

Edgar November 28th 06 04:33 PM

whipping or dipping?
 
Just to make it look shipshape. Force of habit too-there were no synthetic
ropes when I learned to splice and whip.

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..

"Edgar" wrote in message
...
It does not take long to whip the ends. If you cut a

synthetic rope with a
hot knife it is a simple matter to flange the end out a

bit so even a common
whipping, put on in seconds, will not be able to slip off

the end.


If you're cutting with a hot knife, why do you need the
whipping?

Scotty





Edgar November 28th 06 04:39 PM

whipping or dipping?
 
Well, I admit to using electrical tape on occasion, but only on the cheapo
synthetic lines that I use to hold down my winter covers . These are cut to
length as I proceed and are going to be scrapped when I take the covers off
in the spring. But I need to stop the ends fraying out as I shall check and
tighten them as necessary during the winter months after the gales.

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
I use duck tape.

Scotty


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
I have several lines on my boat that were whipped

properly, and they're a
beautiful sight. However, when I replaced my fender lines

recently, I dipped
the ends instead of taking the time to whip them. So far,

it seems just
fine, the only difference seeming to be the asthetic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whipping_knot

or


http://www.westmarine.com/webapp/wcs...rvlet/SiteSear
chView?catalogId=10001&Ntx=mode%2Bmatchallpartial& keyword=wh
ipping&Ntt=whipping&N=0&storeId=10001&Ntk=All_2&dd key=SiteSe
arch

(http://tinyurl.com/ycx7os)

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com








Ellen MacArthur November 28th 06 04:43 PM

whipping or dipping?
 

"Martin Baxter" wrote
| http://www.diesel-central.com/News/cackle.htm


Yeah! That's what I said.... But I never heard of cackle. Unless it's what chickens say.

Cheers,
Ellen

Joe November 28th 06 05:17 PM

whipping or dipping?
 

Walt wrote:
Martin Baxter wrote:
Joe wrote:


Hemp is tried and true..but I use nylon for sheets, cept the 100% jib
sheet it's big high tech, and the halyards they are stainless. I'm not
racing and like a bit of forgiveness. Nylons cheap and a pleasure to
work with.


Nylon for sheets? You must be mistaken, Dacron maybe but surely not
stretchy nylon.


Nylon sheets? Yee gad. Joe is as ignorant about sailing as he is about
politics.

Ok folks, let's take it from the beginning:

Sheets, halyards, control lines: Stretch BAD!

Docklines, towlines: Stretch GOOD!


Just how far do you think a 4 fold 3/4" nylon is going to stretch ?

Ill tell you...maybe 2-4 " in a gust that would put the rail under.

I'm not sailing a little trailor sailor ya know. You wanna use spectra
and carbon feel free.
High dollar line will do no better than nylon, I do not even use a
winch to sheet in my main or mizzen. My 100%+ Jibs all have 1" dacron
sheets.

Joe






Don't use stretchy nylon for sheets, and don't use low stretch
polyester/dacron for docklines. The high-tech ultra low stretch cordage
(e.g. technora, dynema, et al) is a bit better than polyester in some
situations, expensive unnecessary overkill in others.

//Walt




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