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Edgar December 6th 06 03:11 PM

whipping or dipping?
 

"Maxprop" wrote in message
nk.net...
snipped!

As for top-posting or bottom-posting, the old adage "when in Rome . . ."
applies in spades. It is frustrating, not to mention cumbersome, to have

to
deal with top-posters when the majority of the regulars in a NG

bottom-post.
If everyone top-posted, it would conversely be annoying to have someone
bottom-posting. Almost everyone here bottom-posts. Jon, you, and a few
others persist in top-posting, which makes for absolutely no continuity in
reading long threads *unless* the person who responded to your post cuts

and
pastes your post to the bottom, as I did here.

There is no rule governing where you post, just common courtesy.

Max


Well, is it not discourteous to asume that all your readers have such a
short attention span that they have to re-read everything from way back so
that they can catch up? Also, if they have not been paying attention why
should all those who have been have to suffer screenfuls of unsnipped
history just to help the lazy ones?
If insufficient attention is given to constructive snippage you cannot blame
anyone for top posting. Jonathan Ganz always top posts and although I
frequently disagree with what he says on non-sailing topics I do always look
at what he has to say because it is quick and easy, whereas most of the
unsnipped bottom posters get instantly marked 'ignore conversation'.
It is lazy and inconsiderate to make people scroll down a couple of screens
just to read something like 'I agree' or 'You are an
idiot/gayboy/lubber/sockpuppet/whatever.
End of rant- and hey! it was bottom posted after snippage!.



Jeff December 6th 06 03:42 PM

whipping or dipping?
 
Walt wrote:
jlrogers±³© wrote:

Why do most newsreaders , including Microsoft's "Outlook Express"
default to top posting?


Most do not. Only one that I am aware of does.

The reason is that it was designed by people ignorant of 30 years of
usenet conventions.

Fortunately, you can change the configuration and never be accused of
being a "top-posting ****wit" again. (not my words, btw)

//Walt

I hate bottom posters. They are Scum of the Earth!

Walt December 6th 06 03:46 PM

whipping or dipping?
 
Jeff wrote:
Walt wrote:
jlrogers±³© wrote:

Why do most newsreaders , including Microsoft's "Outlook Express"
default to top posting?


Most do not. Only one that I am aware of does.

The reason is that it was designed by people ignorant of 30 years of
usenet conventions.



actually, its those damn middle-posters that **** me off the most

and people who wont use the shift key or punctiation



Fortunately, you can change the configuration and never be accused of
being a "top-posting ****wit" again. (not my words, btw)


I hate bottom posters. They are Scum of the Earth!


Ellen MacArthur December 6th 06 03:54 PM

whipping or dipping?
 

"Walt" wrote
Fortunately, you can change the configuration and never be accused of being a "top-posting ****wit" again. (not my
words, btw)


Sounds sorta like what that Steve Leyland "f*cktard" (not my word, btw) (-: used to say before I
blocked all his off-topic potty mouth posts........ I wonder how many of the posts people like him make go
anywhere but the "intergalactic bit bucket" (not my words - Kim Komando's).

Cheers,
Ellen



Joe December 6th 06 04:46 PM

whipping or dipping?
 

Jeff wrote:
Walt wrote:
jlrogers±³© wrote:

Why do most newsreaders , including Microsoft's "Outlook Express"
default to top posting?


Most do not. Only one that I am aware of does.

The reason is that it was designed by people ignorant of 30 years of
usenet conventions.

Fortunately, you can change the configuration and never be accused of
being a "top-posting ****wit" again. (not my words, btw)

//Walt

I hate bottom posters. They are Scum of the Earth!


I agree

Joe


DSK December 6th 06 05:07 PM

Frostbiting (was whipping or dipping?)
 
Walt wrote:
I guess I wasn't clear: actually, they have the competitor stand on the
scale twice, once while holding the boat, once without, and then take
the difference. It's the easiest way to weigh the boat.

I don't think there's an all-up minimum weight, including crew.


Well, the rules on the class web site have what seems to be
an all-up minimum.

** * ** quote ** * **
http://www.capecodfrosty.org/rules.htm
Rules (... snip ...)

4. Weight correction. Hull weight shall be a minimum of 34
lbs. including flotation but without rudder, daggerboard,
spars and sail. Under-weight hulls must be reconstructed to
conform. The adding of non-buoyant materials to increase
hull weight is prohibited.

Minimum combined weight of hull and crew in sailing clothing
shall be 214 lbs. Weight correction to bring crew-hull to
proper weight shall be made by carryig water-filled plastic
ballast bottles (8 1/2 lbs. per gallon) in the boat, up to a
maximum of 4 gallons. Ballast bottles may not be moved while
racing.


DSK December 6th 06 05:10 PM

whipping or dipping?
 
"Maxprop" wrote
As for top-posting or bottom-posting, the old adage "when in Rome . . ."


Brain-dead conformist!




Edgar wrote:
Well, is it not discourteous to asume that all your readers have such a
short attention span that they have to re-read everything from way back so
that they can catch up?


Right, that's why I generally cut a lot of quoted previous
posts, just enough to get the drift if you haven't followed
the whole thread.



It is lazy and inconsiderate to make people scroll down a couple of screens
just to read something like 'I agree' or 'You are an
idiot/gayboy/lubber/sockpuppet/whatever.


Yep. That's totally lame.

End of rant- and hey! it was bottom posted after snippage!.


As is proper & intelligent.

DSK


Martin Baxter December 6th 06 05:18 PM

whipping or dipping?
 
Edgar wrote:
It is lazy and inconsiderate to make people scroll down a couple of screens
just to read something like 'I agree' or 'You are an
idiot/gayboy/lubber/sockpuppet/whatever.
End of rant- and hey! it was bottom posted after snippage!.



I like bottom posting, with all the caveats you have outlined.

I'ts much more important with emails, IMHO, at least at work. There's
very little more annoying than being the 5th person in a chain to get a
piece of electronic mail with heading "Can you look into this?" and then
having to read each persons input, from the bottom up.

Cheers
Marty

Walt December 6th 06 05:31 PM

Frostbiting (was whipping or dipping?)
 
DSK wrote:

Walt wrote:

I guess I wasn't clear: actually, they have the competitor stand on
the scale twice, once while holding the boat, once without, and then
take the difference. It's the easiest way to weigh the boat.

I don't think there's an all-up minimum weight, including crew.


Well, the rules on the class web site have what seems to be an all-up
minimum.

** * ** quote ** * **
http://www.capecodfrosty.org/rules.htm
Rules (... snip ...)

4. Weight correction. Hull weight shall be a minimum of 34 lbs.
including flotation but without rudder, daggerboard, spars and sail.
Under-weight hulls must be reconstructed to conform. The adding of
non-buoyant materials to increase hull weight is prohibited.

Minimum combined weight of hull and crew in sailing clothing shall be
214 lbs. Weight correction to bring crew-hull to proper weight shall be
made by carryig water-filled plastic ballast bottles (8 1/2 lbs. per
gallon) in the boat, up to a maximum of 4 gallons. Ballast bottles may
not be moved while racing.



Damn those pesky facts!

Do I get my usenet license suspended if I admit I was wrong?

//Walt


Ellen MacArthur December 6th 06 06:07 PM

and another thing.
 
It's also good etiquette to change the subject line when you go to a totally different
topic.....

Cheers,
Ellen




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