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On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 10:09:01 -0700, Gilligan wrote:


That
Democrat politician from New York, Rangel, wants to start a draft so the
educated white folk suffer too - he has said that.

No, he hasn't and there is something to be said for the draft. As it
stands now, we are asking some of our service men and women to return to
Iraq for their fourth and fifth times. It seems to me, that is asking too
much of too few. War is a national endeavor, and the risks should be
spread nationally. Asking a few to risk it all, over, and over, and over,
is bull****.

More people fled the military under peace during the Clinton administration
than have under fire during the Bush administration.

People join the military to fight.

Gilligan wrote:

More people fled the military under peace during the Clinton administration
than have under fire during the Bush administration.

Care to provide a citation from a valid source?

People join the military to fight.

What unit were you in?

(And please provide a citation. I provided one already from the DoD
that shows this claim is inaccurate.)

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Gilligan wrote:

More people fled the military under peace during the Clinton
administration
than have under fire during the Bush administration.

Care to provide a citation from a valid source?

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/60575.pdf

Under the Clinton regime the military troop strength was reduced by about
25%.

Under the reign of Bush it has increased.




People join the military to fight.

What unit were you in?

I was with the 6th Fleet.



(And please provide a citation. I provided one already from the DoD
that shows this claim is inaccurate.)


????

Where is it?

Gilligan wrote:
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Gilligan wrote:

More people fled the military under peace during the Clinton
administration
than have under fire during the Bush administration.

Care to provide a citation from a valid source?

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/60575.pdf

Under the Clinton regime the military troop strength was reduced by about
25%.

Under the reign of Bush it has increased.

LOL! 'Reign.' King Georgie, eh?

Increased or decreased troop levels are a far cry from 'fleeing.'

If you're going to lie or distort, why not just say so?

People join the military to fight.

What unit were you in?

I was with the 6th Fleet.

Navy or Marines?

If the Marines, 'Ooorah.'

If the Navy (aside from some corpsman and a few others that actually
get their boots dirty): pussy.

(And please provide a citation. I provided one already from the DoD
that shows this claim is inaccurate.)

????

Where is it?

About two posts up this thread. Here it is again. People join the
military for many reasons. Fighting is not generally one of them.

http://www.dod.gov/prhome/poprep2004...ons/index.html

The One wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
"The One" wrote in message
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Gilligan wrote:

More people fled the military under peace during the Clinton
administration
than have under fire during the Bush administration.

Care to provide a citation from a valid source?

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/60575.pdf

Under the Clinton regime the military troop strength was reduced by about
25%.

Under the reign of Bush it has increased.

LOL! 'Reign.' King Georgie, eh?

Increased or decreased troop levels are a far cry from 'fleeing.'

If you're going to lie or distort, why not just say so?

People join the military to fight.

What unit were you in?

I was with the 6th Fleet.

Navy or Marines?

Sheeeze watta dope.


If the Marines, 'Ooorah.'

Jarheads...bwhahahahaha

If the Navy (aside from some corpsman and a few others that actually
get their boots dirty): pussy.

**** off asshole, it's crystal clear you never served.

Joe

Ignore Joe - he served aboard an ocean liner that happened to be painted
gray.

It didn't even have a gun.

Gilligan wrote:
Ignore Joe - he served aboard an ocean liner that happened to be painted
gray.


You are mistaken Gilly it was more like a floating repair shop / bar,
playboy mansion, frat house, traveling circus with a large fleet of
boats.

Did you have a shipmate who was a Playboy playmate?
http://cr3.com/adult/playboy/covers/1980_04.jpg

It didn't even have a gun.

Liar liar pants on fi
http://images.military.com/MemberImageUpload/1851

What is that on the 01 level just aft the forecastle?

Joe

Joe wrote:
The One wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
"The One" wrote in message
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Gilligan wrote:

More people fled the military under peace during the Clinton
administration
than have under fire during the Bush administration.

Care to provide a citation from a valid source?

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/60575.pdf

Under the Clinton regime the military troop strength was reduced by about
25%.

Under the reign of Bush it has increased.

LOL! 'Reign.' King Georgie, eh?

Increased or decreased troop levels are a far cry from 'fleeing.'

If you're going to lie or distort, why not just say so?

People join the military to fight.

What unit were you in?

I was with the 6th Fleet.

Navy or Marines?

Sheeeze watta dope.

Hm. Marines guard 'national assets' and serve other roles in the fleet,
from what I understand. I believe they do that at places like Bangor as
well. When in that role, do they say "I'm with the Second MarDiv"?

If the Marines, 'Ooorah.'

Jarheads...bwhahahahaha

Generally, I'd agree with you, but keep in mind that we're comparing
them to the Navy.

If the Navy (aside from some corpsman and a few others that actually
get their boots dirty): pussy.

**** off asshole, it's crystal clear you never served.

Wrongo. In fact, very wrongo.

Now back to your foxhole, corporal.

LOL!

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Gilligan wrote:
"The One" wrote in message
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Gilligan wrote:

More people fled the military under peace during the Clinton
administration
than have under fire during the Bush administration.

Care to provide a citation from a valid source?

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/60575.pdf

Under the Clinton regime the military troop strength was reduced by about
25%.

Under the reign of Bush it has increased.

LOL! 'Reign.' King Georgie, eh?

Increased or decreased troop levels are a far cry from 'fleeing.'

There are several here who fled, cut their careers short because of Clinton.
I think it may be difficult to provide actual confirmed documentation.


If you're going to lie or distort, why not just say so?

That takes the fun out of it.



People join the military to fight.

What unit were you in?

I was with the 6th Fleet.

Navy or Marines?

If the Marines, 'Ooorah.'

The Marine Corp really pushes the hype doesn't it? It's definitely a cult.


If the Navy (aside from some corpsman and a few others that actually
get their boots dirty): pussy.

Pilots, both Navy and Marine adon't get their boots dirty. Unless they ****
upon their brown shoes.

You are a pussy, not matter what branch you served in. You are a double
pussy if you are a former jarhead.


(And please provide a citation. I provided one already from the DoD
that shows this claim is inaccurate.)

????

Where is it?

About two posts up this thread. Here it is again. People join the
military for many reasons. Fighting is not generally one of them.

http://www.dod.gov/prhome/poprep2004...ons/index.html


Some join to avoid prison. I know two guys that got the choice - jail or
join the beloved Corps. They joined and got straightened right out when they
saw double pussies such as you. Did you get that choice when they arrested
you in that San Francisco bath house? You are the type who lacks motivation.
The beloved Corps couldn't beat the pussy out of you even if you re-upped
twice.

Gilligan wrote:
"The One" wrote in message
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Gilligan wrote:
"The One" wrote in message
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Gilligan wrote:

More people fled the military under peace during the Clinton
administration
than have under fire during the Bush administration.

Care to provide a citation from a valid source?

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/60575.pdf

Under the Clinton regime the military troop strength was reduced by about
25%.

Under the reign of Bush it has increased.

LOL! 'Reign.' King Georgie, eh?

Increased or decreased troop levels are a far cry from 'fleeing.'

There are several here who fled, cut their careers short because of Clinton.
I think it may be difficult to provide actual confirmed documentation.

Clinton downsized the military, but since we were not facing the
'teeming red horde' of the Cold War that made sense.

The Fulda Gap just wasn't the threat it once was.

If you're going to lie or distort, why not just say so?

That takes the fun out of it.

OK, we agree here.

People join the military to fight.

What unit were you in?

I was with the 6th Fleet.

Navy or Marines?

If the Marines, 'Ooorah.'

The Marine Corp really pushes the hype doesn't it? It's definitely a cult.

I could tell a pretty funny (true) story about some Marine EMs I ran
into in a bar outside Ft. Sill, OK.

If the Navy (aside from some corpsman and a few others that actually
get their boots dirty): pussy.

Pilots, both Navy and Marine adon't get their boots dirty. Unless they ****
upon their brown shoes.

Pilots actually face danger. I was talking about the rest of the Navy.

You are a pussy, not matter what branch you served in. You are a double
pussy if you are a former jarhead.

I agree: I am a pussy. I was not a jarhead, but I still may be a double
pussy.

(And please provide a citation. I provided one already from the DoD
that shows this claim is inaccurate.)

????

Where is it?

About two posts up this thread. Here it is again. People join the
military for many reasons. Fighting is not generally one of them.

http://www.dod.gov/prhome/poprep2004...ons/index.html

Some join to avoid prison. I know two guys that got the choice - jail or
join the beloved Corps. They joined and got straightened right out when they
saw double pussies such as you. Did you get that choice when they arrested
you in that San Francisco bath house? You are the type who lacks motivation.
The beloved Corps couldn't beat the pussy out of you even if you re-upped
twice.

The point was, they didn't join to fight. I remember at BCT the drill
sergeant asking why people had joined. Not one said "To fight."

Corrections: 1. I am a triple pussy. Maybe even a quadruple one. 2. The
bath house was not in San Francisco. It was in Key West. It was filled
with Navy pilots from NAS Key West. Some had also skipped down from NAS
Pensacola. Marine pilots give the best head. 3. I wasn't going to tell
the Marine story as it's too long, but since it applies to Marines
beating me, oh well.

The story about the marines at Ft. Sill runs thus: I was down for my FA
officer's basic course. (I think Navy guys would've called me a
'maverick.' I was enlisted for five years and then went to OCS. I
retired as a Major last year.) A group of about 75 2LTs were out
drinking. There were three enlisted marines (there was a MarDet there)
who were slamming beer bottles on top of other beer bottles and then
chugging when it foamed up. (How could I tell they were Marines? Aside
from their haircuts and their constant yelps of 'ooorah' were the
'USMC' sweatshirts they were all wearing.)

One of the bottles broke and cut one of their hands. About 20 minutes
later I went to the bathroom and this guy is in there and his hand is
still bleeding pretty badly. I didn't figure this Marine had a car, so
I told him that he may need stitches and I offered him a ride to
Reynolds (the Army hospital on post). He turns to me and says, "I'm a
US Marine. I could rip your head off and **** down your neck before you
knew what hit you."

I got mad. After all, I was just offering to help out a fellow military
member. So I (for the only time in my career) pulled out my ID card and
pulled rank. I played the whole game. I locked him up and said, "That
may indeed be true. But when the MPs find this on my body it may change
the scope of the investigation, don't you think? Who is your CO?" This
Marine turns as white as a sheet. He say, "I'm UA Sir." He saw that I
didn't know what that meant. "You guys call it AWOL."

It turns out that these three had decided not to obey the MarDet CO's
lights out at 2200 order and had snuck off post to have a few beers. I
laid into him about how I expected people in my military, no matter the
branch, to behave in public. I told him that there were about 75 Army
officers in the next room. I told him that he must be the dumbest MF on
earth.

And I made an early-20s mistake. I realized that if I turned this guy
in, my night of fun was over and that I would be filling out forms and
making statements at the Provost Marshal's office (good early-20s call,
as it turns out. I met a girl from the local college and got laid...).
But in retrospect, I probably should've turned him in. I told him that
he'd better get his ass into his CO's office before 0800 and tell him
what happened, because at 0800 I was going to be there and the ****
would hit the fan if he hadn't beaten me there. I went back to my
group. About 10 minutes later, the waitress brought a round of beers to
my group. She pointed to who they were from. It was the three Marines.
The one with the cut hand pointed at me and saluted, then they all
left. I never went to the MarDet CO's office...

Since we both agree that lying is more fun, I'll point out that my
father and my uncle were both Navy pilots. Dad flew P2 Neptunes and my
uncle flew A-4s off the Constellation. I've had many other family
members who also served in the Navy. One still is. He's an 0-6. So
actually, I have nothing against the Navy. I was lying about that.

I do have a soft spot for military people who walk in the mud though.
They're the true manly men (and women. The Army and Marines have some
very manly women.).:-)