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The One November 2nd 06 05:35 PM

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 
It scares me that nutjobs like this are freely roaming the streets of
America.

Gilligan wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:10:42 -0500, Walt
said:

But seriously, how do you reconcile freedom and conscription?


Why do you find it so difficult? Because to you "freedom" means the
absence
of responsibility? The absence of duty?


To liberals freedom means "freedom from" want, need, fear, etc. FDR even
said so. Freedoms for liberals comes from someone else's efforts.


I'm a liberal. To me, freedom means just that. It seems to me the
current crop of so-called conservatives (who in my mind are actually
very radical) want to deny freedom.

So, little buddy, how do you feel about gay marriage, abortion,
separation of church and state, and some of the other issues that help
define freedom?

To real Conservatives freedoms means "freedom to" pursue things as long as
they don't interfere with the fundamental rights of others. Freedom for true
Conservatives is the ability to pursue their own efforts.


Better tell that to the republicans, who want to reduce our rights.

Liberals are belly-aching slackers. Nothing is good enough or everything is
bad they cry! They are dependent and inculcate dependency. It does take a
village for a liberal.

Real Conservatives, such as Barry M. Goldwater, Ronald Reagan and Capt Neal
value independence, work, effort and achievement. Male real Conservatives
are real, manly men. They don't need a village or anything like that. They
don't want people getting in their way or interfering. They have things to
do and places to go. The world rests upon the shoulders of those manly men
and the real women who worship them.


I hope that this is toungue-in-cheek. If not, the conservative slogan
could be, "Conservative. Neanderthal. Period."

I've had my fill of all this Liberal tripe. I'm voting Republican because
that's where the Real Conservatives are. God, guns and guts made America!


I'd have voted for creativity, invention, brains, and hard work.

Amen!


Is that 'blow it out your ass' in some other language?

If so, then Amen.


Capt. JG November 2nd 06 05:35 PM

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 
I don't think I could either. I hope he goes quietly. Despite the fact that
he was clearly slamming Bush, he was so ham-handed about it.....

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Joe,

As "Commander-in-Chief" Bush is Stuck in Iraq, just as his troops are.
BUSH is the reason our military is there.

We won the War but are rather rapidly Losing the Peace. Iraq is not a
US colony. Let's get our "Military Ass" out of there

AND;---- I hope Kerry doesn't run against the GOP in '08. I have to
agree, he is a FN.

I truly want to vote against "George 2nd" I don't think I could Vote for
Kerry.


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT





The One November 2nd 06 05:49 PM

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

wrote:

The intellectually lazy become lawyers, the moral incompetents then
become senators from MA...


....while the truly dumb become republicans.


Gilligan November 2nd 06 05:55 PM

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"The One" wrote in message
ups.com...

Gilligan wrote:

More people fled the military under peace during the Clinton
administration
than have under fire during the Bush administration.


Care to provide a citation from a valid source?


http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/60575.pdf

Under the Clinton regime the military troop strength was reduced by about
25%.

Under the reign of Bush it has increased.




People join the military to fight.


What unit were you in?


I was with the 6th Fleet.



(And please provide a citation. I provided one already from the DoD
that shows this claim is inaccurate.)


????

Where is it?




Gilligan November 2nd 06 05:59 PM

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Joe,

As "Commander-in-Chief" Bush is Stuck in Iraq, just as his troops are.
BUSH is the reason our military is there.


Democrats in Congress voted to put our troops there. Congress has the power
to declare war. Why did the Senate vote 70-23?




Gilligan November 2nd 06 06:31 PM

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"The One" wrote in message
ups.com...
It scares me that nutjobs like this are freely roaming the streets of
America.


Your knee jerk bias is showing.


Gilligan wrote:
"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 01 Nov 2006 18:10:42 -0500, Walt
said:

But seriously, how do you reconcile freedom and conscription?

Why do you find it so difficult? Because to you "freedom" means the
absence
of responsibility? The absence of duty?


To liberals freedom means "freedom from" want, need, fear, etc. FDR even
said so. Freedoms for liberals comes from someone else's efforts.


I'm a liberal. To me, freedom means just that. It seems to me the
current crop of so-called conservatives (who in my mind are actually
very radical) want to deny freedom.


I'm a classic liberal. How can the guy providing the "from" part of your
freedom be as "free" as you?


So, little buddy, how do you feel about gay marriage, abortion,
separation of church and state, and some of the other issues that help
define freedom?


Freedom from abortion, freedom from gay marraige and freedom from separation
of church and state? That's how you define it! "Freedom from"!

Government should not license marriage (freedom TO choose your own partner),
a fetus up until a certain age is a parasite on the woman's body and an
individual has sole dominion over their body (freedom TO own your own body),
state power should be reduced (freedom TO own the fruits of your labors),
separation of state from church - business - individual lives (freedom TO
enter into contracts), free men own guns (freedom TO own guns). Is that too
much freedom for you?





To real Conservatives freedoms means "freedom to" pursue things as long
as
they don't interfere with the fundamental rights of others. Freedom for
true
Conservatives is the ability to pursue their own efforts.


Better tell that to the republicans, who want to reduce our rights.


All Republicans are not Conservatives. Bush is not Conservative. Both
Democrats and Republicans want to reduce our rights. The Republicans in the
bedroom, the Democrats in the wallet.


Liberals are belly-aching slackers. Nothing is good enough or everything
is
bad they cry! They are dependent and inculcate dependency. It does take a
village for a liberal.

Real Conservatives, such as Barry M. Goldwater, Ronald Reagan and Capt
Neal
value independence, work, effort and achievement. Male real
Conservatives
are real, manly men. They don't need a village or anything like that.
They
don't want people getting in their way or interfering. They have things
to
do and places to go. The world rests upon the shoulders of those manly
men
and the real women who worship them.


I hope that this is toungue-in-cheek. If not, the conservative slogan
could be, "Conservative. Neanderthal. Period."


Hey, you're catching on. You may not be a liberal. Liberals have NO sense of
humor. They take themselves and their politiks very seriously.

Read Goldwater's 1964 Acceptance Speech:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv...aterspeech.htm



I've had my fill of all this Liberal tripe. I'm voting Republican
because
that's where the Real Conservatives are. God, guns and guts made America!


I'd have voted for creativity, invention, brains, and hard work.


Better yet, vote for those who do the least. It will slow the inevitable
decline.


Amen!


Is that 'blow it out your ass' in some other language?


I have difficulty farting 2 syllable words.


If so, then Amen.


Amen!



The One November 2nd 06 07:22 PM

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Gilligan wrote:
"The One" wrote in message
ups.com...

Gilligan wrote:

More people fled the military under peace during the Clinton
administration
than have under fire during the Bush administration.


Care to provide a citation from a valid source?


http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/60575.pdf

Under the Clinton regime the military troop strength was reduced by about
25%.

Under the reign of Bush it has increased.


LOL! 'Reign.' King Georgie, eh?

Increased or decreased troop levels are a far cry from 'fleeing.'

If you're going to lie or distort, why not just say so?

People join the military to fight.


What unit were you in?


I was with the 6th Fleet.


Navy or Marines?

If the Marines, 'Ooorah.'

If the Navy (aside from some corpsman and a few others that actually
get their boots dirty): pussy.

(And please provide a citation. I provided one already from the DoD
that shows this claim is inaccurate.)


????

Where is it?


About two posts up this thread. Here it is again. People join the
military for many reasons. Fighting is not generally one of them.

http://www.dod.gov/prhome/poprep2004...ons/index.html


Joe November 2nd 06 07:36 PM

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

The One wrote:
Gilligan wrote:
"The One" wrote in message
ups.com...

Gilligan wrote:

More people fled the military under peace during the Clinton
administration
than have under fire during the Bush administration.

Care to provide a citation from a valid source?


http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/60575.pdf

Under the Clinton regime the military troop strength was reduced by about
25%.

Under the reign of Bush it has increased.


LOL! 'Reign.' King Georgie, eh?

Increased or decreased troop levels are a far cry from 'fleeing.'

If you're going to lie or distort, why not just say so?

People join the military to fight.

What unit were you in?


I was with the 6th Fleet.


Navy or Marines?


Sheeeze watta dope.


If the Marines, 'Ooorah.'


Jarheads...bwhahahahaha

If the Navy (aside from some corpsman and a few others that actually
get their boots dirty): pussy.


**** off asshole, it's crystal clear you never served.

Joe


Gilligan November 2nd 06 09:03 PM

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"The One" wrote in message
ups.com...

Gilligan wrote:
"The One" wrote in message
ups.com...

Gilligan wrote:

More people fled the military under peace during the Clinton
administration
than have under fire during the Bush administration.

Care to provide a citation from a valid source?


http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/60575.pdf

Under the Clinton regime the military troop strength was reduced by about
25%.

Under the reign of Bush it has increased.


LOL! 'Reign.' King Georgie, eh?

Increased or decreased troop levels are a far cry from 'fleeing.'


There are several here who fled, cut their careers short because of Clinton.
I think it may be difficult to provide actual confirmed documentation.


If you're going to lie or distort, why not just say so?


That takes the fun out of it.



People join the military to fight.

What unit were you in?


I was with the 6th Fleet.


Navy or Marines?

If the Marines, 'Ooorah.'


The Marine Corp really pushes the hype doesn't it? It's definitely a cult.


If the Navy (aside from some corpsman and a few others that actually
get their boots dirty): pussy.


Pilots, both Navy and Marine adon't get their boots dirty. Unless they ****
upon their brown shoes.

You are a pussy, not matter what branch you served in. You are a double
pussy if you are a former jarhead.


(And please provide a citation. I provided one already from the DoD
that shows this claim is inaccurate.)


????

Where is it?


About two posts up this thread. Here it is again. People join the
military for many reasons. Fighting is not generally one of them.

http://www.dod.gov/prhome/poprep2004...ons/index.html



Some join to avoid prison. I know two guys that got the choice - jail or
join the beloved Corps. They joined and got straightened right out when they
saw double pussies such as you. Did you get that choice when they arrested
you in that San Francisco bath house? You are the type who lacks motivation.
The beloved Corps couldn't beat the pussy out of you even if you re-upped
twice.





Gilligan November 2nd 06 09:06 PM

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 
Ignore Joe - he served aboard an ocean liner that happened to be painted
gray.

It didn't even have a gun.




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