John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

You're joking right? Aussie-land has a lot to win or lose by what we do or
don't do in a week.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Maxprop" wrote in message
.net...

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
OzOne wrote in message
...

You guys crack me up!
Because of something that one person says, something that may or may
not have been a badly spun joke, you're prepared to forget everything
that GWB has done 'for' your country and vote his politics back into
power......

If it wasn't so sad, it would be funny.

It's funny for Ozzy. He has absolutely nothing at stake in this election.

Max

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Maxprop wrote:


What I'm anxiously awaiting is the bitter fight between Hillary, Kerry,
Edwards, Obama, Bayh, Gore (?) and ??? in about a year. Should be fun
watching the Democrats once again fractionate themselves while someone like
John McCain waltzes into the GOP nomination.

Looking at it from this great Socialist bastion to your north, I have to
agree with you. I don't think the Dems have a chance, no matter who they
nominate, the poor ******* will be like a race horse with two jockeys
facing opposite directions.

Cheers
Marty

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"Walt" wrote in message
...
Gilligan wrote:

crap snipped

Shut up, Glen. Adults are trying to have a conversation.


Just pointing out the hypocrisy.

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"Dave" wrote in message
...
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 06:52:04 -0700, "Gilligan"
said:

Just pointing out the hypocrisy.

No need to do that Gilly. I'm simply letting Glen's absurd nonsense fall
of
its own weight.

Gilly? Glen? Typo? ?????????

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Dave wrote:
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 06:52:04 -0700, "Gilligan" said:
crap snipped

I'm simply letting Glen's absurd nonsense fall of
its own weight.

Yeah, I've been taking that approach with Glen as well. The more he
rants, the more ridiculous he sounds.



//Walt

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Walt wrote:
Dave wrote:
On Thu, 2 Nov 2006 06:52:04 -0700, "Gilligan" said:
crap snipped

I'm simply letting Glen's absurd nonsense fall of
its own weight.

Yeah, I've been taking that approach with Glen as well. The more he
rants, the more ridiculous he sounds.



//Walt

Are you not submitting to servatude/rule of others by paying taxes?

I would not pay so much if I were not forced to. And if I felt the need
to give to my country lots-0-cash, I assure you I could do a better job
of spending the money then the politicans/govt. does.

BTW I joined the military to travel and go to sea, I could have made
more money elsewhere.

Joe

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"thunder" wrote
| Asking a few to risk it all, over, and over, and over,
| is bull****.

Nobody held a gun to their head and made them enlist. Nobody holds a gun to their head and makes them re-up.
Duh. They do it because they're patriots.

Is that the only reason? Hm. While I am patriotic, I served for 21
years for a host of other reasons. You get a nice retirement; you get
good educational benefits (the main reason that I joined back in 1984,
BTW. I was a starving college student.); you get medical, dental, cheap
life insurance, a chance to see the world, adventure, and a sense on
comeraderie.

What do the soldiers themselves say?

"With an improving economy in 2004 as measured by unemployment rate,
recruiters have experienced challenges to signing up new recruits.
Although access to post-high school opportunities has expanded in
recent years, research suggests that the Service recruiting campaigns
are having an impact on the youth of our country. Among today's
youth, the military is perceived as providing opportunities, furthering
education, helping individuals grow and mature, and contributing to the
country."

http://www.dod.gov/prhome/poprep2004...ons/index.html

Some people do it because it's the only way to break out of the slums,
or to get trained on a certain job, or for many, many other reasons.

You hold their hands like they were little kids. You don't give them any credit.

You've obviously never commanded a military unit. Sometimes, even
often, it's very much like parenting young children.

You act like they're stupid and helpless.This insults them. Your as bad as Senator Kerry.

Personally, I think a draft would be a good thing. With an
all-volunteer military you end up with a military class much like the
Romans had. Diluting it by rotating non-professionals through is not a
bad thing. And sharing the burden is the right thing to do. You are not
considering, for example, the impact of multiple deployments on
military families, among other things (and from the party whose mantra
is 'family values.' LOL!). And most enlisted soldiers do come from
poorer socio-economic backgrounds.

That's one reason why officers get commissioned through multiple
sources. The fear is that if all officers only come through the service
academies, there's a much higher likelihood of a coup, or other 'bad'
stuff happening. If you dilute the officers from the academies with
ROTC, OCS, direct, and other commissioning sources, this is less likely
to occur. A draft, or a national service requirement, can serve the
same purpose. Deferments should be excluded. That would mean that even
Dick Cheney would have to serve.

I find it amusing that the people who have never served seem to have
the strongest opinions about the military.

So now this election now becomes a referendum on John Kerry in some
people's minds. LOL! The stupidity of some people never fails to amuse
me.

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Joe,

As "Commander-in-Chief" Bush is Stuck in Iraq, just as his troops are.
BUSH is the reason our military is there.

We won the War but are rather rapidly Losing the Peace. Iraq is not a
US colony. Let's get our "Military Ass" out of there

AND;---- I hope Kerry doesn't run against the GOP in '08. I have to
agree, he is a FN.

I truly want to vote against "George 2nd" I don't think I could Vote for
Kerry.


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Gilligan wrote:

More people fled the military under peace during the Clinton administration
than have under fire during the Bush administration.

Care to provide a citation from a valid source?

People join the military to fight.

What unit were you in?

(And please provide a citation. I provided one already from the DoD
that shows this claim is inaccurate.)

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...


Are you not submitting to servatude/rule of others by paying taxes?

I would not pay so much if I were not forced to. And if I felt the need
to give to my country lots-0-cash, I assure you I could do a better job
of spending the money then the politicans/govt. does.

BTW I joined the military to travel and go to sea, I could have made
more money elsewhere.

Joe


Joe,

If your neighbor came over and demanded 45% of your pay else he would lock
you up or confiscate your possessions - in some states it would be legal to
shoot him.

If several of your neighbors came over and did the same, it's still theft.

If the majority of the people in Texas did that to you it is still theft.

Only legitimate government has the power to tax. It is a delegated power in
the Constitution.

The Constitution also gives Congress the power to "raise and support Armies"
and "To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into
Execution the foregoing Powers,"

A draft at some times is necessary and proper to raise an Army.


What is striking is that the Democrats heavily favor a draft and higher
taxes. Why do they always want to punish people who have comitted no crime?

It's really ridiculous, they condemn the people they send off to war and
they condemn the rich whose money they steal. Why aren't they condemning
themselves for the absolute power they seek?

The Democrats are all about forcing others. Ever hear a Democrat in recent
decades call for lower taxes and more individual freedom? Do they even
mention individuals? They do, but in a negative connotation - "some
wacko-individualist type" or "some selfish individual".

In all this campaigning what have the Democrats stood for? Withdrawal from
a war they just voted us into? Making life simpler and better for Americans
by restructuring the tax code? School choice?

The Democrats are in the back pocket of special interests, particularly the
interests of dying antiquated, dead end ways - teacher's unions and unions
in general, anti-globalization lobby, pseudo science with man causing global
warming and the ozone hole, big government (except for self defense) and a
host of other ridiculous causes. Their solutions are not the get-dirty,
let's fix them type but rather the throw money feel good type.

Look into the junk drawer on your work bench. That is the Democrat party. A
hodge podge of special interests and odd pieces that should have been
discarded a long time ago. There is no unifying philosophy or message except
"we are against the other guys", "we are for more taxes", "we will punish
you", "you should not drive that car". Why such underlying guilt? Why such a
need to control? What kind of people are these? It's a party run amok by
emotion and very little thinking.

Joe, this election is very important. The Democrats haven't offered an
alternative, they just want to punish. Pull that lever for the Republicans.
Eventually the Democrats will offer us a better choice, but they aren't now
or in the near future. The Democrats are running on Republican failures, not
on Democrat strengths.

Get everyone you know to vote Republican.