John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 13:37:10 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Is this something you'd like to continue to do? I'm sure there are positions
around, but I doubt you can live off the wages.


What part of building on the opportunity in front of you did you not
understand? Do you think that everyone who takes an entry level job
is destined to stay there forever.

From McDonalds I learned that I had to come to work on time, clean and
neatly dressed. I learned that I had to be polite to the customers,
even those who were rude to me. I learned that I could take it a
little easy during the slow times but had to step it up during the
rush. I learned that it was a low margin, competitive business, and I
had to be effiicient and effective and couldn't waste supplies. My
boss, the store manager, was the hardest worker I have ever known. He
ended up owning that location and several others, and quite wealthy.

Those are all valuable lessons, that if you learn them, you get to
move up in the economic system.

Do you not understand how that works?

And there were people living off of those wages, which adjusted for
inflation is less than what fast food pays today. Of course of what
"live" means has changed

Frank

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article . net,
Maxprop wrote:

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Yeah, if you don't mind working in the ever-expanding fast food
industry...

Another elitist comment. I have tremendous respect for kids and adults
who
choose to make themselves productive and work summers, evenings, and
weekends in McDonalds, etc. Why do you show disrespect for people who
choose to work in less-than-optimal jobs, rather than sit around
worthlessly? If a person works, he has my respect.

Bull****... attack the messenger instead of argue on the
merits... that's the rightwingnut tactic.

The leftwingnut crowd is fairly adept at it, too. Doug King.


I guess working at McDs is better than nothing, but it's not exactly a
skilled job, which is what we need to be promoting.

Promoting for whom? Do you believe that no one should be doing the sort of
labor that McDonalds offers? Are you willing to sacrifice the percentage of
the GDP that fast food comprises, simply because we must promote better,
more skilled labor to the point that no one will take such jobs?

Oh wait--that's what all the undocumented aliens are for, right?

Max

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 05:23:18 GMT, "Maxprop"
wrote:


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
Yeah, if you don't mind working in the ever-expanding fast food
industry...

Another elitist comment. I have tremendous respect for kids and adults
who
choose to make themselves productive and work summers, evenings, and
weekends in McDonalds, etc. Why do you show disrespect for people who
choose to work in less-than-optimal jobs, rather than sit around
worthlessly? If a person works, he has my respect.

Max



Thank you. McDonalds 1964-67. It was considered honorable work back
then. Certainly, no one working with me considered it a career, but
the experience was valuable. The concept of building on the
opportunity in front of you seems to be lost today, primarily because
kids are ridiculed for taking such jobs.

It was not covered by minimum wage back then. I made sixty-five cents
an hour for most of that time.

Yeah, but that would buy a cheesburger, fries, and a coke then.

You are right on all points, of course, Frank.

Max

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:


What I'm anxiously awaiting is the bitter fight between Hillary, Kerry,
Edwards, Obama, Bayh, Gore (?) and ??? in about a year. Should be fun
watching the Democrats once again fractionate themselves while someone
like
John McCain waltzes into the GOP nomination.

Looking at it from this great Socialist bastion to your north, I have to
agree with you. I don't think the Dems have a chance, no matter who they
nominate, the poor ******* will be like a race horse with two jockeys
facing opposite directions.


McCain, a centrist butt-kissing conservative, who disappointed a lot
of people when he sucked up to Bush so he can get the nomination. He's
even using the same attack-dog people Bush used. Very disappointing.

Thankfully a lot of Democrats disagree with you. McCain is more qualified
to lead than anyone the Dems or GOP have put up for office so far.

Max

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

"Gilligan" wrote in message
. ..
Right-O Thom!

What do you drink anyway?

Do you like single malts?

He likes boiler-room coffee, so I doubt if he'd go for single malts,
especially Islay.
Maybe Jim Beam?

Max

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Gilligan wrote:
"The One" wrote in message
ups.com...

Gilligan wrote:
"The One" wrote in message
ups.com...

Gilligan wrote:

More people fled the military under peace during the Clinton
administration
than have under fire during the Bush administration.

Care to provide a citation from a valid source?

http://fpc.state.gov/documents/organization/60575.pdf

Under the Clinton regime the military troop strength was reduced by about
25%.

Under the reign of Bush it has increased.

LOL! 'Reign.' King Georgie, eh?

Increased or decreased troop levels are a far cry from 'fleeing.'

There are several here who fled, cut their careers short because of Clinton.
I think it may be difficult to provide actual confirmed documentation.

Clinton downsized the military, but since we were not facing the
'teeming red horde' of the Cold War that made sense.

The Fulda Gap just wasn't the threat it once was.

If you're going to lie or distort, why not just say so?

That takes the fun out of it.

OK, we agree here.

People join the military to fight.

What unit were you in?

I was with the 6th Fleet.

Navy or Marines?

If the Marines, 'Ooorah.'

The Marine Corp really pushes the hype doesn't it? It's definitely a cult.

I could tell a pretty funny (true) story about some Marine EMs I ran
into in a bar outside Ft. Sill, OK.

If the Navy (aside from some corpsman and a few others that actually
get their boots dirty): pussy.

Pilots, both Navy and Marine adon't get their boots dirty. Unless they ****
upon their brown shoes.

Pilots actually face danger. I was talking about the rest of the Navy.

You are a pussy, not matter what branch you served in. You are a double
pussy if you are a former jarhead.

I agree: I am a pussy. I was not a jarhead, but I still may be a double
pussy.

(And please provide a citation. I provided one already from the DoD
that shows this claim is inaccurate.)

????

Where is it?

About two posts up this thread. Here it is again. People join the
military for many reasons. Fighting is not generally one of them.

http://www.dod.gov/prhome/poprep2004...ons/index.html

Some join to avoid prison. I know two guys that got the choice - jail or
join the beloved Corps. They joined and got straightened right out when they
saw double pussies such as you. Did you get that choice when they arrested
you in that San Francisco bath house? You are the type who lacks motivation.
The beloved Corps couldn't beat the pussy out of you even if you re-upped
twice.

The point was, they didn't join to fight. I remember at BCT the drill
sergeant asking why people had joined. Not one said "To fight."

Corrections: 1. I am a triple pussy. Maybe even a quadruple one. 2. The
bath house was not in San Francisco. It was in Key West. It was filled
with Navy pilots from NAS Key West. Some had also skipped down from NAS
Pensacola. Marine pilots give the best head. 3. I wasn't going to tell
the Marine story as it's too long, but since it applies to Marines
beating me, oh well.

The story about the marines at Ft. Sill runs thus: I was down for my FA
officer's basic course. (I think Navy guys would've called me a
'maverick.' I was enlisted for five years and then went to OCS. I
retired as a Major last year.) A group of about 75 2LTs were out
drinking. There were three enlisted marines (there was a MarDet there)
who were slamming beer bottles on top of other beer bottles and then
chugging when it foamed up. (How could I tell they were Marines? Aside
from their haircuts and their constant yelps of 'ooorah' were the
'USMC' sweatshirts they were all wearing.)

One of the bottles broke and cut one of their hands. About 20 minutes
later I went to the bathroom and this guy is in there and his hand is
still bleeding pretty badly. I didn't figure this Marine had a car, so
I told him that he may need stitches and I offered him a ride to
Reynolds (the Army hospital on post). He turns to me and says, "I'm a
US Marine. I could rip your head off and **** down your neck before you
knew what hit you."

I got mad. After all, I was just offering to help out a fellow military
member. So I (for the only time in my career) pulled out my ID card and
pulled rank. I played the whole game. I locked him up and said, "That
may indeed be true. But when the MPs find this on my body it may change
the scope of the investigation, don't you think? Who is your CO?" This
Marine turns as white as a sheet. He say, "I'm UA Sir." He saw that I
didn't know what that meant. "You guys call it AWOL."

It turns out that these three had decided not to obey the MarDet CO's
lights out at 2200 order and had snuck off post to have a few beers. I
laid into him about how I expected people in my military, no matter the
branch, to behave in public. I told him that there were about 75 Army
officers in the next room. I told him that he must be the dumbest MF on
earth.

And I made an early-20s mistake. I realized that if I turned this guy
in, my night of fun was over and that I would be filling out forms and
making statements at the Provost Marshal's office (good early-20s call,
as it turns out. I met a girl from the local college and got laid...).
But in retrospect, I probably should've turned him in. I told him that
he'd better get his ass into his CO's office before 0800 and tell him
what happened, because at 0800 I was going to be there and the ****
would hit the fan if he hadn't beaten me there. I went back to my
group. About 10 minutes later, the waitress brought a round of beers to
my group. She pointed to who they were from. It was the three Marines.
The one with the cut hand pointed at me and saluted, then they all
left. I never went to the MarDet CO's office...

Since we both agree that lying is more fun, I'll point out that my
father and my uncle were both Navy pilots. Dad flew P2 Neptunes and my
uncle flew A-4s off the Constellation. I've had many other family
members who also served in the Navy. One still is. He's an 0-6. So
actually, I have nothing against the Navy. I was lying about that.

I do have a soft spot for military people who walk in the mud though.
They're the true manly men (and women. The Army and Marines have some
very manly women.).:-)

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Gilligan wrote:
"The One" wrote in message

Increased or decreased troop levels are a far cry from 'fleeing.'

There are several here who fled, cut their careers short because of Clinton.
I think it may be difficult to provide actual confirmed documentation.

BTW, I recall being offered an 'early out.' I think that the offer was
made to all officers below Captain. There was severance pay involved. I
chose not to. Others chose to take the offer. IIRC, it was voluntary.
Some 'low speed, high drag' types may have been forced out, but the
overall effect would be that the higher-quality officers would remain.

Also IIRC, so many took it that there was a shortage of company-grade
officers and they needed to suddenly recruit more. Typical military...
LOL

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 22:39:08 GMT, "Maxprop"
wrote:


"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
.. .
On Fri, 03 Nov 2006 05:23:18 GMT, "Maxprop"
wrote:


"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...


It was not covered by minimum wage back then. I made sixty-five cents
an hour for most of that time.

Yeah, but that would buy a cheesburger, fries, and a coke then.

And after sales tax you would get about $.17 change.

Frank

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

In any case, though he may be more qualified, he's still just a politition
after all is said and done. He just wants to get elected, nothing more.

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"Maxprop" wrote in message
k.net...

"Jonathan Ganz" wrote in message
...
In article et,
Maxprop wrote:

"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
Maxprop wrote:


What I'm anxiously awaiting is the bitter fight between Hillary,
Kerry,
Edwards, Obama, Bayh, Gore (?) and ??? in about a year. Should be
fun
watching the Democrats once again fractionate themselves while someone
like
John McCain waltzes into the GOP nomination.

Looking at it from this great Socialist bastion to your north, I have
to
agree with you. I don't think the Dems have a chance, no matter who
they
nominate, the poor ******* will be like a race horse with two jockeys
facing opposite directions.


McCain, a centrist butt-kissing conservative, who disappointed a lot
of people when he sucked up to Bush so he can get the nomination. He's
even using the same attack-dog people Bush used. Very disappointing.

Thankfully a lot of Democrats disagree with you. McCain is more qualified
to lead than anyone the Dems or GOP have put up for office so far.

Max

John Kerry is a FN idiot
 

Frank,

I think you are wasting your energy.

He can't understand what you are talking about.



"Frank Boettcher" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 3 Nov 2006 13:37:10 -0800, "Capt. JG"
wrote:

Is this something you'd like to continue to do? I'm sure there are
positions
around, but I doubt you can live off the wages.


What part of building on the opportunity in front of you did you not
understand? Do you think that everyone who takes an entry level job
is destined to stay there forever.

From McDonalds I learned that I had to come to work on time, clean and
neatly dressed. I learned that I had to be polite to the customers,
even those who were rude to me. I learned that I could take it a
little easy during the slow times but had to step it up during the
rush. I learned that it was a low margin, competitive business, and I
had to be effiicient and effective and couldn't waste supplies. My
boss, the store manager, was the hardest worker I have ever known. He
ended up owning that location and several others, and quite wealthy.

Those are all valuable lessons, that if you learn them, you get to
move up in the economic system.

Do you not understand how that works?

And there were people living off of those wages, which adjusted for
inflation is less than what fast food pays today. Of course of what
"live" means has changed

Frank