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Walt November 2nd 06 10:14 PM

Name that sail
 
Bart wrote:

Now about the staysail. You notice it is long in the foot and
short in the luff. What is the name for that sort of staysail?


Ok. It's been a couple of days, and nobody's posted the answer. What
is it?

//Walt

Ellen MacArthur November 2nd 06 10:45 PM

Another Ketch Sail
 

"Bart" .@. wrote in
|I see one of these sailing inthe harbor. I have no idea
| what it is called.
| http://www.theyachtmarket.com/userimages/24272.jpg


CSY 44 walkover model.

Cheers,
Ellen

Ellen MacArthur November 2nd 06 10:51 PM

Another Ketch Sail
 

|I see one of these sailing inthe harbor. I have no idea
| what it is called.
| http://www.theyachtmarket.com/userimages/24272.jpg


If you mean the sail its called a mizzen staysail. Thank me very much....

Cheers,
Ellen



Thom Stewart November 2nd 06 11:07 PM

Another Ketch Sail
 
Sorry Joe,

Can't open the attachment.

Youse guys ain't playing fair anyways. You're talking Ketch Rigs and the
boat in the picture is a Yawl ( Damn pretty Yawl)

There is a big difference. A Yawl will have a large Main Sail, and a
standing back stay for support. The Mizzen isn't any part of that
standing rigging for the Main Sail.

You Ketch guys split the rig to reduce the sail load, with two sails,
usually providing standing rigging support together as per Mast Tips.

By the way; A Yawl will just about sail the same with or without her
Mizzen. The Mizzen is to limit "Weather Helm" just like in the picture
with all that Head Sail pressure.

I thought every one knew this. I feel foolish posting it. The Mizzen on
a Yawl will produce neutral Helm.


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT



Thom Stewart November 2nd 06 11:34 PM

Another Ketch Sail
 
Ah Yes,

I see the Picture now and it does have a name BUT I can't remember it
right now. Old age.

It is a commonly used sail to increase sail aloft. Used both on Ketchs
and Schooner rigs

Sir Chichister used it on his boat ( That name slipped my mind also)
Don't take this name to the Bank but it's something like; "Upper
Staysail" Chichester didn't use a Fore Sail but elected to go with
Staysails. Upper & lower. It was easier on single handing..


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT



Bart November 3rd 06 05:12 AM

Another Ketch Sail
 

"Thom Stewart"
I thought every one knew this. I feel foolish posting it. The Mizzen on
a Yawl will produce neutral Helm.


mizzen is he arabic word meaning to balance.



Joe November 3rd 06 04:04 PM

Another Ketch Sail
 

Thom Stewart wrote:
Sorry Joe,

Can't open the attachment.

Youse guys ain't playing fair anyways. You're talking Ketch Rigs and the
boat in the picture is a Yawl ( Damn pretty Yawl)

There is a big difference. A Yawl will have a large Main Sail, and a
standing back stay for support. The Mizzen isn't any part of that
standing rigging for the Main Sail.

You Ketch guys split the rig to reduce the sail load, with two sails,
usually providing standing rigging support together as per Mast Tips.

By the way; A Yawl will just about sail the same with or without her
Mizzen. The Mizzen is to limit "Weather Helm" just like in the picture
with all that Head Sail pressure.

I thought every one knew this. I feel foolish posting it. The Mizzen on
a Yawl will produce neutral Helm.


Great info Thom, I might add that on the Yawl the mizzen mast is aft
the rudder, and a Ketch it is forward of the rudder.

Joe


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT



Ansley W. Sawyer November 3rd 06 10:27 PM

Another Ketch Sail
 
The ketch in the picture is sailing a genoa, main, mule, and mizzen.

"mule sail n. A staysail hung with the point down and carried between the
mainmast and the mizzen on ketches."

The Sailor's Illustrated Dictionary by Thompson Lenfestey published 1994 The
Lyons Press

Ansley Sawyer
SV Pacem
39' Camper Nicholson Ketch



Ansley W. Sawyer November 3rd 06 10:27 PM

Name that sail
 
The ketch in the picture is sailing a genoa, main, mule, and mizzen.

"mule sail n. A staysail hung with the point down and carried between the
mainmast and the mizzen on ketches."

The Sailor's Illustrated Dictionary by Thompson Lenfestey published 1994 The
Lyons Press

Ansley Sawyer
SV Pacem
39' Camper Nicholson Ketch



Ellen MacArthur November 3rd 06 11:08 PM

Another Ketch Sail
 

"Thom Stewart" wrote
| Ah Yes,
| Sir Chichister used it on his boat ( That name slipped my mind also)

Sir Francis Chichester is the spelling I think. Gypsy Moth is the boat name. He had four of them I think.
The last one he had was just wrecked on a reef in the South Pacific. There's a story about it in Cruising World.


Cheers,
Ellen




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