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cruisin November 1st 06 08:33 AM

Name that sail
 


On Oct 31, 11:53 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:56:37 -0800, (Thom Stewart)
scribbled thusly:

The Staysail on the Mizzen Mast is often called a Mizzen Runner.Well done Thom....There are sailors and old sailors...


Well, maybe so, but on my ketch, the mizzen runners are running
backstays, and the staysail forward would be called a spinnaker
staysail, to differentiate it from the forestaysail one might set if
the boat were rigged as a cutter-yawl, or a heavy weather staysail.
KISS is more than a thing you do with your lips, y'all agree?
Cheers,
Mike


Walt November 1st 06 02:41 PM

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OzOne wrote:

It wasn't anything like a snipe....


Gotta agree with you there. A Snipe is a 15 foot sloop, not a yawl at all.

It was a challenge to look again.


I looked again, and the slot between the mizzen and the mizzen staysail
(or whatever you want to call it) looks awful. Am I missing something?

//Walt

Walt November 1st 06 02:46 PM

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Bart wrote:

Now about the staysail. You notice it is long in the foot and
short in the luff. What is the name for that sort of staysail?


Low aspect? Very low aspect? Ultra low aspect?

You probably have in mind some salty word like "sputterer" or
"gollywacker" or something. Sorry, but I'm tapped. (c:

//Walt

Maxprop November 1st 06 03:35 PM

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"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Also; The Staysail off the Main Mast is should be classified as the Main
Staysail or the Fore Staysail.

The Staysail on the Mizzen Mast is often called a Mizzen Runner.


I've never heard it referred to as a "runner," but I think that term fits
nicely. Maybe better than "staysail."

Max



Maxprop November 1st 06 03:37 PM

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OzOne wrote in message ...
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 20:56:37 -0800, (Thom Stewart)
scribbled thusly:


The Staysail on the Mizzen Mast is often called a Mizzen Runner.


Well done Thom....There are sailors and old sailors...

WHAT A PRETTY PICTURE!!!!


It is a beauty eh!


When flying our genoa, main, mizzen staysail and mizzen on our former
Mariner ketch, we used to count the number of boats that sailed or motored
close by to take photos. One Sunday afternoon we counted 66.

Max



Maxprop November 1st 06 03:40 PM

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"cruisin" wrote in message
oups.com...


On Oct 31, 11:53 pm, OzOne wrote:
On Tue, 31 Oct 2006 23:09:45 -0500, "Bart" .@. scribbled thusly:

Oz gets no credit because he didn't answer the question, as
usual, and his only comment was a snipe. 1 lash for Oz.It wasn't
anything like a snipe....It was a challenge to look again.


Oz1...of the 3 twins.

I welcome you to crackerbox palace,We've been expecting you.


OK, Oz, I looked again, and if I were to modify my answer I'd say it's
a high-cut mizzen staysail, one that allows the helmsman to see where
he's going, unlike most mizzen staysails. What name are you so
reticent to divulge that would describe it better? Bart? I would be
surprised to hear a different name used in common parliance. The
skipper would have to educate his crew and label the bag in large
lettering if so. Do you think this boat carries a differently cut
mizzen staysail as well?
Curious,
Mike


Perhaps Oz thinks it's a mizzen staysail of yankee cut? A mizzerable
yankstaysail?

Max



Thom Stewart November 1st 06 04:00 PM

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Max & (Mike)
A Staysail is usally named and flown from a STAY (Even if it is a
temporary set Stay) A Wire Luff isn't a Stay.

A Stay is part of the STANDING RIGGING. A Luff Line is part of the
RUNNING RIGGING, even if it is wire, it is part of the Sail and not the
RIGGING.


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT



Thom Stewart November 1st 06 04:42 PM

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Max,

The name comes from the tack you're on when you fly it. The Main Boom
has to be out of the way, as in a down wind Tack or RUNNING before the
wind.

It is one of the saving graces of a Yawl Mizen Masts (Besides being very
pretty)


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT



Walt November 1st 06 05:03 PM

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Thom Stewart wrote:

The name comes from the tack you're on when you fly it. The Main Boom
has to be out of the way, as in a down wind Tack or RUNNING before the
wind.

It is one of the saving graces of a Yawl Mizen Masts (Besides being very
pretty)



Hmmm. It looks to me like the yawl in the picture is reaching, not
running - tough to tell from a 2D picture, but the spinaker pole looks
to be barely to windward of the bow.

http://www.goodoldboat.com/classifieds/TonyPeot.jpg

//Walt

Thom Stewart November 1st 06 07:54 PM

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Walt,

If you look at the picture, you will see that the Sail is set on the Lee
side of the Back Stay. With the Runner Set there is no way that the Main
Boom can be brought in.

I'm sorry if I miss lead you though. A RUNNING SAIL is a sail not set on
a stay, used mostly on conditions of working down wind, being broad
reaching or dead downwind. It is a Three point, free Flying sail not
unlike a Spinnaker. As you can see in the picture, it is set to sail on
that Tack. It will have to be lowered to even Jibe. It cannot be used UP
WIND because it will interfer with the Main Sail Boom.

It's a Running Sail, Set for the Tack that the boat is Sailing, which is
Before the Wind. Common called Running


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