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Capt. Rob October 23rd 06 07:25 PM

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It's funny how someone like Jeff could know so little about weather.
LaGuardia reported 17 knots steady Kings Point less, Execution Rocks
quite a bit more.

Well, unlike MOST people here, we actually got on our boat, left the
slip and raised sail.
Many of you, just to try something different, should try this.
Winds were between 17-20 knots and there were occasional gusts to 30,
turning the water green in spots. Whitecaps were constant as we sailed
out further.
Some big boats were out...a C&C 40 or 41 and a few larger J-boats. Like
us, the J's did not hoist their headsails. The C&C was sailing with a
furled down genoa (too much) and wasn't sailing well. Heart of Gold was
quite composed...at least for that moment!
The kevlar main is a like a GIANT BLACK JET WING!!!!! The 35s5 gybed
and Suzanne said "holy sh*t" as the boat accelerated. I eased the main
to calm things as we tacked a few times, watching the battens...and
headed for Execution Rocks. Suzanne suggested we leave the genoa furled
and I agreed. We were making 6-7 knots. I noticed that the #2 batten
was ticking the backstay on tacks, but not on gybes. It's an easy fix.
The Kevlar sail is more like a solid object. There is little luffing or
any indication that the sail is doing anything less than transmitting
maximum force possible. It's silent and heavy looking, though much
lighter than the original main. Off the wind the new main felt
amazingly efficient. I had always felt the 35s5 sluggish dead downwind,
but not now!
And then it happened. A fairly lumpy set of waves caught us on the port
side. Suzanne was about to take a photo, holding onto the furled genoa
and a nice wave broke over her. She was soaked from the belly-button
down. The next wave added insult to injury and soaked her pretty much
all over!
No big deal except she had taken her clothing off the boat and had
nothing to change into. Damn!!!! Well, she went below and warned up and
I sailed back to are slip fast. It was fun while it lasted. Still
waiting for a slightly calmer day to play with these sails....and
running out of time. I'm hauling in two weeks!


RB
35s5
NY


Joe October 23rd 06 07:38 PM

Calm Weather on the LIS
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
It's funny how someone like Jeff could know so little about weather.
LaGuardia reported 17 knots steady Kings Point less, Execution Rocks
quite a bit more.

Well, unlike MOST people here, we actually got on our boat, left the
slip and raised sail.
Many of you, just to try something different, should try this.
Winds were between 17-20 knots and there were occasional gusts to 30,
turning the water green in spots. Whitecaps were constant as we sailed
out further.
Some big boats were out...a C&C 40 or 41 and a few larger J-boats. Like
us, the J's did not hoist their headsails. The C&C was sailing with a
furled down genoa (too much) and wasn't sailing well. Heart of Gold was
quite composed...at least for that moment!
The kevlar main is a like a GIANT BLACK JET WING!!!!! The 35s5 gybed
and Suzanne said "holy sh*t" as the boat accelerated. I eased the main
to calm things as we tacked a few times, watching the battens...and
headed for Execution Rocks. Suzanne suggested we leave the genoa furled
and I agreed. We were making 6-7 knots. I noticed that the #2 batten
was ticking the backstay on tacks, but not on gybes. It's an easy fix.
The Kevlar sail is more like a solid object. There is little luffing or
any indication that the sail is doing anything less than transmitting
maximum force possible. It's silent and heavy looking, though much
lighter than the original main. Off the wind the new main felt
amazingly efficient. I had always felt the 35s5 sluggish dead downwind,
but not now!
And then it happened. A fairly lumpy set of waves caught us on the port
side. Suzanne was about to take a photo, holding onto the furled genoa
and a nice wave broke over her. She was soaked from the belly-button
down. The next wave added insult to injury and soaked her pretty much
all over!
No big deal except she had taken her clothing off the boat and had
nothing to change into. Damn!!!! Well, she went below and warned up and
I sailed back to are slip fast. It was fun while it lasted. Still
waiting for a slightly calmer day to play with these sails....and
running out of time. I'm hauling in two weeks!


Hope her camera was not damaged. you got any new pictures of the sails?

Joe


RB
35s5
NY



Capt. Rob October 23rd 06 07:50 PM

Calm Weather on the LIS
 

Hope her camera was not damaged. you got any new pictures of the sails?



The little casio got splashed but seems to work fine. I got no pics
from today, but here's a very light air shot from yesterday
morning.....

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/imag...ck35s5weby.jpg


R.


Jeff October 23rd 06 08:11 PM

Calm Weather on the LIS
 
Capt. Rob wrote:

It's funny how someone like Jeff could know so little about weather.
LaGuardia reported 17 knots steady Kings Point less, Execution Rocks
quite a bit more.


You're the one who claim "40 knots." I said the forecast was for
10-15, gusts to 25, which is pretty much what there was.


To bad your boat is so wet, I hope everyone is OK.

Goofball_star_dot_etal October 23rd 06 09:32 PM

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On 23 Oct 2006 11:25:28 -0700, "Capt. Rob" wrote:
Suzanne suggested we leave the genoa furled
and I agreed.


Take no notice. Reef.
I have never even seen anyone sail under main alone..


Capt. Rob October 24th 06 11:54 AM

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I have never even seen anyone sail under main alone..





That's hard to believe. Quite a few fractional rigs sail very well with
just the main.


RB
35s5
NY


Capt. Rob October 24th 06 12:09 PM

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You're the one who claim "40 knots." I said the forecast was for
10-15, gusts to 25, which is pretty much what there was.





Jeff, why do you need to lie to defend your posts? I said the weather
called for winds to 40 knots. I never REPORTED 40 knots, just echoed
what I heard on the radio.
Beyond that your wind report is STILL wrong as we were in more that
10-15 constant. Or, if you will, please admit to the group that my
kevlar main is SO GREAT that the 35s5 can break hull speed in 10 knots
without the genoa!
The execution rocks link wind report matched what we observed 1st hand
in any case.

Go away, Jeff...you're busted again.



RB
35s5
NY


Jeff October 24th 06 01:21 PM

Calm Weather on the LIS
 
Capt. Rob wrote:
You're the one who claim "40 knots." I said the forecast was for
10-15, gusts to 25, which is pretty much what there was.

Jeff, why do you need to lie to defend your posts? I said the weather
called for winds to 40 knots. I never REPORTED 40 knots, just echoed
what I heard on the radio.


Why do you lie like this Rob? I followed my comment with the marine
forecast. Why don't you show us the forecast that claimed 40 knots?
The actual wind was, as forecast, 15 kts with gusts 20 to 25.

Your "forecast" was apparently pulled out of your butt.

Beyond that your wind report is STILL wrong as we were in more that
10-15 constant.


Yes, at Execution Rock the steady wind was as high as 16 knots for a
brief period. It must have been horrific!

Or, if you will, please admit to the group that my
kevlar main is SO GREAT that the 35s5 can break hull speed in 10 knots
without the genoa!


I'm surprised you don't need extra ballast to keep from going airborne!

The execution rocks link wind report matched what we observed 1st hand
in any case.


Really? So this whole little tantrum is because I said the forecast
was 15 kts and you really saw 16? But what happened to your
"forecast" of 40?


Go away, Jeff...you're busted again.


Me? You're the one who went out in moderate conditions, carried main
only, and then repeatedly drenched your unprepared crew so you had to
turn tail and run back in. Good show there, booby!

Scotty October 24th 06 02:06 PM

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"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..

Go away, Jeff...


At least Jeff does 'go away' once in a while. Sailing, that
is.
How many times are you going to post about your silly
little day sails to Ex. Rock ?

SBV



Joe October 24th 06 03:03 PM

Calm Weather on the LIS
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
Hope her camera was not damaged. you got any new pictures of the sails?



The little casio got splashed but seems to work fine. I got no pics
from today, but here's a very light air shot from yesterday
morning.....

http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/imag...ck35s5weby.jpg


R.


What are you going to do about that topping lift?

Joe



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