Hi,

Looking for a boat. Have a 2 & 4 year old and a wife. I have some
experience with a Hobie & Sunfish. I have the ASA BKB and BCC
certificates.

I live a mile from Kentucky Lake and can keep the boat at the water on
a trailer with the mast up. Will only go out for a few hours at a
time.

Something I think I would like to do is take the boat to Florida west
coast around Sanibel and visit small islands for shells, picnic, etc.

Any thoughts are really appreciated.

Kevin

One more thing. I will also sail by myself quite a bit.


wrote:
Hi,

Looking for a boat. Have a 2 & 4 year old and a wife. I have some
experience with a Hobie & Sunfish. I have the ASA BKB and BCC
certificates.

I live a mile from Kentucky Lake and can keep the boat at the water on
a trailer with the mast up. Will only go out for a few hours at a
time.

Something I think I would like to do is take the boat to Florida west
coast around Sanibel and visit small islands for shells, picnic, etc.

Any thoughts are really appreciated.

Kevin

wrote:
Hi,

Looking for a boat. Have a 2 & 4 year old and a wife. I have some
experience with a Hobie & Sunfish.

Neither is really much like the other two. But the basics
are the same... one of the fun things about sailing is the
wide variety in different boats.

As for Capri 16.5 vs Flying Scot-
Capri 16.5: sportier, more responsive, easier to handle
around beaches & docks, more able to do something resembling
"sailing" in light air.

Flying Scot: bigger by far, more stable, more stowage,
larger/better one-design class.

Either boat could be fitted with a small outboard although
the Flying Scot would better stand the added weight. The
downside of the Scot's roominess & stability is that if you
do manage to capsize or swamp it, you've got a serious
problem and will almost certainly need assistance. The Capri
16.5 is fully self-rescuing although it takes a bit more
grunt than a Sunfish.

The difference in size has to be seen to be appreciated.
Your kids will probably be able to run around up under the
Scot's fore deck, they will think it's like a summer cabin
all for them. It will also be drier. OTOH if you like the
sensation of responsive sailing, the Capri is a much
sportier (not necessarily faster, although it should be most
of the time) design.


I live a mile from Kentucky Lake and can keep the boat at the water on
a trailer with the mast up. Will only go out for a few hours at a
time.

Something I think I would like to do is take the boat to Florida west
coast around Sanibel and visit small islands for shells, picnic, etc.


Either would be fine for that; the Scot will have more room
for picnic supplies. At one time I did some camp-cruising on
a Highlander, the slightly bigger sister to the Flying Scot
and could pack an awesome pile of supplies. So the choice
comes down to your preferences & priorities.

If you are interested in a racing class, even if just for
social activites with people who own the same type boat,
check around local sailing clubs. The Flying Scot has a
great organization, don't know about the Capri 16.5 there
could be a local fleet.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Kevin,

Sounds like you've prepare yourself a lot better than most of us. Think
your discision is more than capable.

Happy Sails
P/S both boats are good Daysailers


http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

We have a bunch of 16.5s in our fleet. They're great boats, but can be hard
to handle short-handed in high winds, which are common out here. They're
primarily used for beginning classes, with great care taken to ensure a
safety boat is nearby.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

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Hi,

Looking for a boat. Have a 2 & 4 year old and a wife. I have some
experience with a Hobie & Sunfish. I have the ASA BKB and BCC
certificates.

I live a mile from Kentucky Lake and can keep the boat at the water on
a trailer with the mast up. Will only go out for a few hours at a
time.

Something I think I would like to do is take the boat to Florida west
coast around Sanibel and visit small islands for shells, picnic, etc.

Any thoughts are really appreciated.

Kevin

Capt. JG wrote:
We have a bunch of 16.5s in our fleet. They're great boats, but can be hard
to handle short-handed in high winds, which are common out here.

Well, duh. As for the strong winds, that's why sailing out
there is so much fun (not to mention dodging freighters).


... They're
primarily used for beginning classes, with great care taken to ensure a
safety boat is nearby.


Why? Don't you teach capsize recovery?

BTW there are float-top mainsails that prevent turtling, a
big plus for club boats. Next time you all think about new
sails for these Capris (or any other crew-ballasted boats)
consider 'em. It's also possible to just tie a swim noodle
to the main halyard shackle, but looks dorky.

DSK

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Hi,

Looking for a boat. Have a 2 & 4 year old and a wife. I have some
experience with a Hobie & Sunfish. I have the ASA BKB and BCC
certificates.

I live a mile from Kentucky Lake and can keep the boat at the water on
a trailer with the mast up. Will only go out for a few hours at a
time.

Something I think I would like to do is take the boat to Florida west
coast around Sanibel and visit small islands for shells, picnic, etc.

Any thoughts are really appreciated.

Kevin

I had a Capri 13.2. It was impossible for one man to get back over if you
turtled it. This was a concern for me because I sail in very cold water. I
considered putting a Hobie float on top of the mast. The 16.5 may have a
similar problem

"DSK" wrote in message
.. .
Capt. JG wrote:
We have a bunch of 16.5s in our fleet. They're great boats, but can be
hard to handle short-handed in high winds, which are common out here.

Well, duh. As for the strong winds, that's why sailing out there is so
much fun (not to mention dodging freighters).


... They're primarily used for beginning classes, with great care taken
to ensure a safety boat is nearby.


Why? Don't you teach capsize recovery?

Moi? I stay away from cold water. Yes, though, that is taught. Sometimes,
it's not enough.

BTW there are float-top mainsails that prevent turtling, a big plus for
club boats. Next time you all think about new sails for these Capris (or
any other crew-ballasted boats) consider 'em. It's also possible to just
tie a swim noodle to the main halyard shackle, but looks dorky.

DSK

wrote:
Hi,

Looking for a boat. Have a 2 & 4 year old and a wife. I have some
experience with a Hobie & Sunfish. I have the ASA BKB and BCC
certificates.

I live a mile from Kentucky Lake and can keep the boat at the water on
a trailer with the mast up. Will only go out for a few hours at a
time.

Something I think I would like to do is take the boat to Florida west
coast around Sanibel and visit small islands for shells, picnic, etc.

Any thoughts are really appreciated.

Kevin

Get a Catalina or O'Day 22...they are easy trailer boats, have a small
but useful cabin, and are nice to putt around in. With an auxiallary
9.9 sail outboard, you can go a lot of places to daysail and still have
the option of camping overnight.

Gilligan wrote:
I had a Capri 13.2.

Was it the 14.2 sloop or the 13 cat (like a Laser)?

It was impossible for one man to get back over if you
turtled it.

Hmmm... I wonder how you were trying it. I have never seen a
crew-ballasted centerboarder, including a Flying Scot or
Lightning, that couldn't be pulled back up *IF* the right
technique were used. The Johnson 18 with it's wide beam &
side tanks was like a catamaran when turtled, it took a
righting line (similar to one used by a catamaran) and crew
weight on the bow.

We have rescued people from Hobie 1-14s, along with other
small boats, that seemed extremely reluctant to come back
up. Once you get the boat oriented right, uncleat the sheets
& sometimes the vang, and get the right leverage (such as a
righting line across the bottom from one of the chainplates)
then they come right back.

The worst scenario is when a double-hulled boat, such as is
intended to be self-rescuing, has taken on water between the
hull & cockpit floor/sides. This makes it difficult to right
because the free surface effect inside the hull keeps
yanking the boat back, then once the boat is upright, it
negates the boat's form stability. Big PITA. This is why
some old-timers insist that modern self-bailing dinghy are
unsafe (kind of the way some salty types insist that roller
furling is no darn good).


This was a concern for me because I sail in very cold water.

Hypothermia is a big problem, certainly not one to be taken
lightly.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King