Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?

Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get water for the
AC's and head.

Joe

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Scout
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"Joe" wrote in message
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Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?

Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get water for the
AC's and head.

Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I wonder though if it
still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag doesn't actually obstruct
your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through the plastic would be
enough to keep the condensing water at or below design temp. As for the
head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the head which would end up
in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say you're flushing your
waste into the marina waters (like we did in the 60's & 70's). In any
event, I would imagine enough make-up water would get into the bag.
It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides, I don't mind diving with
goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind. The worst thing that
ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in charlie horse) while I
had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from floating up. Painful
stuff.
Scout

Scout, check out VC-17 bottom paint. Great stuff for
trailer sailors.

When's the maiden voyage?

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...

Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?

Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get
water for the
AC's and head.

Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I
wonder though if it
still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag doesn't
actually obstruct
your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through the
plastic would be
enough to keep the condensing water at or below design
temp. As for the
head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the head
which would end up
in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say
you're flushing your
waste into the marina waters (like we did in the 60's &
70's). In any
event, I would imagine enough make-up water would get into
the bag.
It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides, I
don't mind diving with
goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind. The
worst thing that
ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in charlie
horse) while I
had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from floating
up. Painful
stuff.
Scout

Scotty,
It has an adequate coat of bottom paint for now but I'll keep the VC-17 in
mind. I'm not planning on trailering it more than once a year at this point
(between home and a marina). Takes all the fun out of it if I have to drop
the mast and pull it home every time. I have a place lined up for next
summer, in Tuckerton, NJ.
I've pressure washed the Gulf gunk off. Looks pretty good. Not sure when
I'll get my first voyage in, too much on my plate to worry about it but I'm
having fun figuring stuff out on the hard.
Scout


"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Scout, check out VC-17 bottom paint. Great stuff for
trailer sailors.

When's the maiden voyage?

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...

Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?

Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get
water for the
AC's and head.

Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I
wonder though if it
still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag doesn't
actually obstruct
your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through the
plastic would be
enough to keep the condensing water at or below design
temp. As for the
head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the head
which would end up
in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say
you're flushing your
waste into the marina waters (like we did in the 60's &
70's). In any
event, I would imagine enough make-up water would get into
the bag.
It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides, I
don't mind diving with
goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind. The
worst thing that
ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in charlie
horse) while I
had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from floating
up. Painful
stuff.
Scout

Oh, NJ? ;(

Saw the big Seaward at the boat show, looked nice.

Scotty



"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
Scotty,
It has an adequate coat of bottom paint for now but I'll
keep the VC-17 in
mind. I'm not planning on trailering it more than once a
year at this point
(between home and a marina). Takes all the fun out of it
if I have to drop
the mast and pull it home every time. I have a place lined
up for next
summer, in Tuckerton, NJ.
I've pressure washed the Gulf gunk off. Looks pretty good.
Not sure when
I'll get my first voyage in, too much on my plate to worry
about it but I'm
having fun figuring stuff out on the hard.
Scout


"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Scout, check out VC-17 bottom paint. Great stuff for
trailer sailors.

When's the maiden voyage?

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Joe" wrote in message


ups.com...

Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?

Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get
water for the
AC's and head.

Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I
wonder though if it
still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag doesn't
actually obstruct
your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through the
plastic would be
enough to keep the condensing water at or below design
temp. As for the
head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the head
which would end up
in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say
you're flushing your
waste into the marina waters (like we did in the 60's &
70's). In any
event, I would imagine enough make-up water would get
into
the bag.
It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides, I
don't mind diving with
goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind. The
worst thing that
ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in
charlie
horse) while I
had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from
floating
up. Painful
stuff.
Scout

At least for a year so I can get my parents out sailing as much as
possible - it's only 20 minutes from their place. Ultimately I want to be in
the Chessy though.
Scout

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Oh, NJ? ;(

Saw the big Seaward at the boat show, looked nice.

Scotty



"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
Scotty,
It has an adequate coat of bottom paint for now but I'll
keep the VC-17 in
mind. I'm not planning on trailering it more than once a
year at this point
(between home and a marina). Takes all the fun out of it
if I have to drop
the mast and pull it home every time. I have a place lined
up for next
summer, in Tuckerton, NJ.
I've pressure washed the Gulf gunk off. Looks pretty good.
Not sure when
I'll get my first voyage in, too much on my plate to worry
about it but I'm
having fun figuring stuff out on the hard.
Scout


"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Scout, check out VC-17 bottom paint. Great stuff for
trailer sailors.

When's the maiden voyage?

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Joe" wrote in message


ups.com...

Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?

Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get
water for the
AC's and head.

Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I
wonder though if it
still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag doesn't
actually obstruct
your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through the
plastic would be
enough to keep the condensing water at or below design
temp. As for the
head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the head
which would end up
in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say
you're flushing your
waste into the marina waters (like we did in the 60's &
70's). In any
event, I would imagine enough make-up water would get
into
the bag.
It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides, I
don't mind diving with
goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind. The
worst thing that
ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in
charlie
horse) while I
had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from
floating
up. Painful
stuff.
Scout

you renting a slip? mooring? private dock space?


"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
At least for a year so I can get my parents out sailing as
much as
possible - it's only 20 minutes from their place.
Ultimately I want to be in
the Chessy though.
Scout

"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Oh, NJ? ;(

Saw the big Seaward at the boat show, looked nice.

Scotty



"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
Scotty,
It has an adequate coat of bottom paint for now but
I'll
keep the VC-17 in
mind. I'm not planning on trailering it more than once
a
year at this point
(between home and a marina). Takes all the fun out of
it
if I have to drop
the mast and pull it home every time. I have a place
lined
up for next
summer, in Tuckerton, NJ.
I've pressure washed the Gulf gunk off. Looks pretty
good.
Not sure when
I'll get my first voyage in, too much on my plate to
worry
about it but I'm
having fun figuring stuff out on the hard.
Scout


"Scotty" wrote in message
. ..
Scout, check out VC-17 bottom paint. Great stuff for
trailer sailors.

When's the maiden voyage?

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Joe" wrote in message



ups.com...

Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?

Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant
get
water for the
AC's and head.

Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I
wonder though if it
still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag
doesn't
actually obstruct
your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through
the
plastic would be
enough to keep the condensing water at or below
design
temp. As for the
head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the
head
which would end up
in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say
you're flushing your
waste into the marina waters (like we did in the
60's &
70's). In any
event, I would imagine enough make-up water would
get
into
the bag.
It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides,
I
don't mind diving with
goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind.
The
worst thing that
ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in
charlie
horse) while I
had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from
floating
up. Painful
stuff.
Scout

Scotty wrote:
Scout, check out VC-17 bottom paint. Great stuff for
trailer sailors.

When's the maiden voyage?

Scotty


"Scout" wrote in message
. ..
"Joe" wrote in message

ups.com...
Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?
Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get
water for the
AC's and head.
Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I
wonder though if it
still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag doesn't
actually obstruct
your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through the
plastic would be
enough to keep the condensing water at or below design
temp. As for the
head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the head
which would end up
in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say
you're flushing your
waste into the marina waters (like we did in the 60's &
70's). In any
event, I would imagine enough make-up water would get into
the bag.
It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides, I
don't mind diving with
goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind. The
worst thing that
ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in charlie
horse) while I
had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from floating
up. Painful
stuff.
Scout




You had good luck with it? We put on VC 17 biocide but it didn't hold
over the 7 months it was in the water, even that far up the Neuse...we
went to an ablative paint by Sea Hawk this time...problem wuth the BC;s
is that if he does decide to slip her, he will have to completely strip
the bottom before putting on something else

"katy" wrote in message
...
Scotty wrote:
Scout, check out VC-17 bottom paint. Great stuff for
trailer sailors.

When's the maiden voyage?

You had good luck with it?

Yes, on my trailer sailor. That's what I wrote.


We put on VC 17 biocide but it didn't hold
over the 7 months it was in the water, even that far up
the Neuse...we
went to an ablative paint by Sea Hawk this time...problem
wuth the BC;s
is that if he does decide to slip her, he will have to
completely strip
the bottom before putting on something else


I didn't realize , before, that Scout was going to slip his
boat.

Scotty

Scout wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks?

Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get water for the
AC's and head.

Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I wonder though if it
still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag doesn't actually obstruct
your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through the plastic would be
enough to keep the condensing water at or below design temp.


Not down here it would not be. I like closed loop keel coolers but you
need water movement or a large area of water. I think the bags water
would be steaming here in just a few hours, But the water temp is 82
here. In NY it might work. If I bagged my boat I'd fill the bag with
fresh water and avoid the clorine.


As for the
head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the head which would end up
in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say you're flushing your
waste into the marina waters (like we did in the 60's & 70's).

Suction to flush, we have a 75 gallon new holding tank.

In any
event, I would imagine enough make-up water would get into the bag.
It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides, I don't mind diving with
goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind. The worst thing that
ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in charlie horse) while I
had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from floating up. Painful
stuff.

Yeah cramps hurt, and can be dangerious under water. I like to get
offshore and scrub the bottom myself in clear water, and chip barneys
off the prop.

If I owned my own dock, then I'd build a submergeable barge, pull the
boat over it and lift the boat out of the water. Or a belt lift.

Joe

Scout