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Oh, NJ? ;(
Saw the big Seaward at the boat show, looked nice. Scotty "Scout" wrote in message . .. Scotty, It has an adequate coat of bottom paint for now but I'll keep the VC-17 in mind. I'm not planning on trailering it more than once a year at this point (between home and a marina). Takes all the fun out of it if I have to drop the mast and pull it home every time. I have a place lined up for next summer, in Tuckerton, NJ. I've pressure washed the Gulf gunk off. Looks pretty good. Not sure when I'll get my first voyage in, too much on my plate to worry about it but I'm having fun figuring stuff out on the hard. Scout "Scotty" wrote in message . .. Scout, check out VC-17 bottom paint. Great stuff for trailer sailors. When's the maiden voyage? Scotty "Scout" wrote in message . .. "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Scout wrote: Anyone practicing safe sacks? Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get water for the AC's and head. Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I wonder though if it still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag doesn't actually obstruct your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through the plastic would be enough to keep the condensing water at or below design temp. As for the head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the head which would end up in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say you're flushing your waste into the marina waters (like we did in the 60's & 70's). In any event, I would imagine enough make-up water would get into the bag. It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides, I don't mind diving with goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind. The worst thing that ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in charlie horse) while I had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from floating up. Painful stuff. Scout |
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At least for a year so I can get my parents out sailing as much as
possible - it's only 20 minutes from their place. Ultimately I want to be in the Chessy though. Scout "Scotty" wrote in message . .. Oh, NJ? ;( Saw the big Seaward at the boat show, looked nice. Scotty "Scout" wrote in message . .. Scotty, It has an adequate coat of bottom paint for now but I'll keep the VC-17 in mind. I'm not planning on trailering it more than once a year at this point (between home and a marina). Takes all the fun out of it if I have to drop the mast and pull it home every time. I have a place lined up for next summer, in Tuckerton, NJ. I've pressure washed the Gulf gunk off. Looks pretty good. Not sure when I'll get my first voyage in, too much on my plate to worry about it but I'm having fun figuring stuff out on the hard. Scout "Scotty" wrote in message . .. Scout, check out VC-17 bottom paint. Great stuff for trailer sailors. When's the maiden voyage? Scotty "Scout" wrote in message . .. "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Scout wrote: Anyone practicing safe sacks? Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get water for the AC's and head. Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I wonder though if it still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag doesn't actually obstruct your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through the plastic would be enough to keep the condensing water at or below design temp. As for the head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the head which would end up in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say you're flushing your waste into the marina waters (like we did in the 60's & 70's). In any event, I would imagine enough make-up water would get into the bag. It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides, I don't mind diving with goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind. The worst thing that ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in charlie horse) while I had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from floating up. Painful stuff. Scout |
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you renting a slip? mooring? private dock space?
"Scout" wrote in message . .. At least for a year so I can get my parents out sailing as much as possible - it's only 20 minutes from their place. Ultimately I want to be in the Chessy though. Scout "Scotty" wrote in message . .. Oh, NJ? ;( Saw the big Seaward at the boat show, looked nice. Scotty "Scout" wrote in message . .. Scotty, It has an adequate coat of bottom paint for now but I'll keep the VC-17 in mind. I'm not planning on trailering it more than once a year at this point (between home and a marina). Takes all the fun out of it if I have to drop the mast and pull it home every time. I have a place lined up for next summer, in Tuckerton, NJ. I've pressure washed the Gulf gunk off. Looks pretty good. Not sure when I'll get my first voyage in, too much on my plate to worry about it but I'm having fun figuring stuff out on the hard. Scout "Scotty" wrote in message . .. Scout, check out VC-17 bottom paint. Great stuff for trailer sailors. When's the maiden voyage? Scotty "Scout" wrote in message . .. "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Scout wrote: Anyone practicing safe sacks? Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get water for the AC's and head. Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I wonder though if it still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag doesn't actually obstruct your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through the plastic would be enough to keep the condensing water at or below design temp. As for the head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the head which would end up in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say you're flushing your waste into the marina waters (like we did in the 60's & 70's). In any event, I would imagine enough make-up water would get into the bag. It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides, I don't mind diving with goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind. The worst thing that ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in charlie horse) while I had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from floating up. Painful stuff. Scout |
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Renting a slip, hopefully they have a place for me - I'm waiting to hear
back. Marina on the Bass River. "Scotty" wrote in message . .. you renting a slip? mooring? private dock space? "Scout" wrote in message . .. At least for a year so I can get my parents out sailing as much as possible - it's only 20 minutes from their place. Ultimately I want to be in the Chessy though. Scout "Scotty" wrote in message . .. Oh, NJ? ;( Saw the big Seaward at the boat show, looked nice. Scotty "Scout" wrote in message . .. Scotty, It has an adequate coat of bottom paint for now but I'll keep the VC-17 in mind. I'm not planning on trailering it more than once a year at this point (between home and a marina). Takes all the fun out of it if I have to drop the mast and pull it home every time. I have a place lined up for next summer, in Tuckerton, NJ. I've pressure washed the Gulf gunk off. Looks pretty good. Not sure when I'll get my first voyage in, too much on my plate to worry about it but I'm having fun figuring stuff out on the hard. Scout "Scotty" wrote in message . .. Scout, check out VC-17 bottom paint. Great stuff for trailer sailors. When's the maiden voyage? Scotty "Scout" wrote in message . .. "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Scout wrote: Anyone practicing safe sacks? Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get water for the AC's and head. Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I wonder though if it still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag doesn't actually obstruct your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through the plastic would be enough to keep the condensing water at or below design temp. As for the head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the head which would end up in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say you're flushing your waste into the marina waters (like we did in the 60's & 70's). In any event, I would imagine enough make-up water would get into the bag. It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides, I don't mind diving with goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind. The worst thing that ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in charlie horse) while I had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from floating up. Painful stuff. Scout |
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Scout wrote: "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Scout wrote: Anyone practicing safe sacks? Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get water for the AC's and head. Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I wonder though if it still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag doesn't actually obstruct your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through the plastic would be enough to keep the condensing water at or below design temp. Not down here it would not be. I like closed loop keel coolers but you need water movement or a large area of water. I think the bags water would be steaming here in just a few hours, But the water temp is 82 here. In NY it might work. If I bagged my boat I'd fill the bag with fresh water and avoid the clorine. As for the head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the head which would end up in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say you're flushing your waste into the marina waters (like we did in the 60's & 70's). Suction to flush, we have a 75 gallon new holding tank. In any event, I would imagine enough make-up water would get into the bag. It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides, I don't mind diving with goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind. The worst thing that ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in charlie horse) while I had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from floating up. Painful stuff. Yeah cramps hurt, and can be dangerious under water. I like to get offshore and scrub the bottom myself in clear water, and chip barneys off the prop. If I owned my own dock, then I'd build a submergeable barge, pull the boat over it and lift the boat out of the water. Or a belt lift. Joe Scout |
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Scotty wrote:
Scout, check out VC-17 bottom paint. Great stuff for trailer sailors. When's the maiden voyage? Scotty "Scout" wrote in message . .. "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Scout wrote: Anyone practicing safe sacks? Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first...Second cant get water for the AC's and head. Good point Joe, I guess I hadn't consider the AC! I wonder though if it still wouldn't work, that is, assuming the bag doesn't actually obstruct your intake, I wonder if the heat transfer through the plastic would be enough to keep the condensing water at or below design temp. As for the head, I assume (uh-oh) that you mean water for the head which would end up in your holding tank, and that you don't mean to say you're flushing your waste into the marina waters (like we did in the 60's & 70's). In any event, I would imagine enough make-up water would get into the bag. It looks like too much trouble for me, and besides, I don't mind diving with goggles and scraping, which I did with my Starwind. The worst thing that ever happened was some serious leg cramping (as in charlie horse) while I had my foot hooked under the keel to keep me from floating up. Painful stuff. Scout You had good luck with it? We put on VC 17 biocide but it didn't hold over the 7 months it was in the water, even that far up the Neuse...we went to an ablative paint by Sea Hawk this time...problem wuth the BC;s is that if he does decide to slip her, he will have to completely strip the bottom before putting on something else |
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Scout wrote:
Anyone practicing safe sacks? I saw those a couple of years ago up on the Chesapeake, haven't seen any for a while though. It was supposed to be a cheap alternative to dry sailing. Joe wrote: Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first... Not on fiberglass, it isn't. .... Second cant get water for the AC's and head. The AC would be an easy fix, as for the head.... WHY ARE YOU FLUSHING YOUR HEAD OVERBOARD IN A MARINA, YOU DIRTBAG? DSK |
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DSK wrote:
Scout wrote: Anyone practicing safe sacks? I saw those a couple of years ago up on the Chesapeake, haven't seen any for a while though. It was supposed to be a cheap alternative to dry sailing. Joe wrote: Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first... Not on fiberglass, it isn't. .... Second cant get water for the AC's and head. The AC would be an easy fix, as for the head.... WHY ARE YOU FLUSHING YOUR HEAD OVERBOARD IN A MARINA, YOU DIRTBAG? DSK Although overboard dumping is illegal everywhere that there are marinas in the US, but in practice I've only seen a few places where liveaboards actually use a pumpout. The several marinas I frequent have liveaboards, but I've never seen one go to the pumpout station. At my current place, I've never seen the pumpout actually used. Here in New England, East of the Cape, there are 9+ foot tides, and fairly directly access to the ocean, so folks aren't that concerned about the commercial harbors. The recreational harbors that aren't cleansed by tides tend to provide free pumpouts - places like Martha's Vineyard provide that service. But before you get "holier than though," when last I traveled through the south, it was virtually impossible to get a pumpout anywhere, even at places that advertised a free pumpout with a fillup. |
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Jeff wrote:
DSK wrote: Scout wrote: Anyone practicing safe sacks? I saw those a couple of years ago up on the Chesapeake, haven't seen any for a while though. It was supposed to be a cheap alternative to dry sailing. Joe wrote: Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first... Not on fiberglass, it isn't. .... Second cant get water for the AC's and head. The AC would be an easy fix, as for the head.... WHY ARE YOU FLUSHING YOUR HEAD OVERBOARD IN A MARINA, YOU DIRTBAG? DSK Although overboard dumping is illegal everywhere that there are marinas in the US, but in practice I've only seen a few places where liveaboards actually use a pumpout. The several marinas I frequent have liveaboards, but I've never seen one go to the pumpout station. At my current place, I've never seen the pumpout actually used. Here in New England, East of the Cape, there are 9+ foot tides, and fairly directly access to the ocean, so folks aren't that concerned about the commercial harbors. The recreational harbors that aren't cleansed by tides tend to provide free pumpouts - places like Martha's Vineyard provide that service. But before you get "holier than though," when last I traveled through the south, it was virtually impossible to get a pumpout anywhere, even at places that advertised a free pumpout with a fillup. That's strange becasue alal three of the big marinas in New Bern have working pump-outs and with a low tidal sluggish waterway, the idea that someone would be actively pumping straight to a river system that is already overflowing with pllutants irks me no end. And yes, I have noticed that some of the liveaboards never pump out..ut's disgusting... |
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DSK wrote: Scout wrote: Anyone practicing safe sacks? I saw those a couple of years ago up on the Chesapeake, haven't seen any for a while though. It was supposed to be a cheap alternative to dry sailing. Joe wrote: Hell no. Clorine is corrosive first... Not on fiberglass, it isn't. .... Second cant get water for the AC's and head. The AC would be an easy fix, as for the head.... WHY ARE YOU FLUSHING YOUR HEAD OVERBOARD IN A MARINA, YOU DIRTBAG? Yo dip****, raw water is used to flush the head, I have a 75 gallon holding tank, and pump off service that visits weekly. You need to take a chill pill. Joe DSK |
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