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Force 5 stove report
Capt. JG wrote: I have a two-burner low pressure alcohol system (no oven). I'm thinking about converting it to CNG. a propane conversion isn't recommended by Sabre, apparently. I think it has to do with the difficulty of installation. You can even mount your tank outside. Alcohol is more dangerious IMO. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Well we had the force 5 in the galley for about 6-8 mo. now. What a fuel saver, the gas will last about 3 times as long as with other stoves like Attwoods ect.. Has no pilot light to waste fuel. Easy to clean, solid HD stainless steel. Nothing but positive things to say about the stove. Joe |
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You can put alcohol out with water.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Capt. JG wrote: I have a two-burner low pressure alcohol system (no oven). I'm thinking about converting it to CNG. a propane conversion isn't recommended by Sabre, apparently. I think it has to do with the difficulty of installation. You can even mount your tank outside. Alcohol is more dangerious IMO. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Well we had the force 5 in the galley for about 6-8 mo. now. What a fuel saver, the gas will last about 3 times as long as with other stoves like Attwoods ect.. Has no pilot light to waste fuel. Easy to clean, solid HD stainless steel. Nothing but positive things to say about the stove. Joe |
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Capt. JG wrote: You can put alcohol out with water. Thats good, cuz when your covered with flames you an not see the best thing to do is jump in the water. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Capt. JG wrote: I have a two-burner low pressure alcohol system (no oven). I'm thinking about converting it to CNG. a propane conversion isn't recommended by Sabre, apparently. I think it has to do with the difficulty of installation. You can even mount your tank outside. Alcohol is more dangerious IMO. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Well we had the force 5 in the galley for about 6-8 mo. now. What a fuel saver, the gas will last about 3 times as long as with other stoves like Attwoods ect.. Has no pilot light to waste fuel. Easy to clean, solid HD stainless steel. Nothing but positive things to say about the stove. Joe |
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Capt. JG wrote:
You can put alcohol out with water. Joe wrote: Thats good, cuz when your covered with flames you an not see the best thing to do is jump in the water. IMHO alcohol is a perfectly OK fuel, a bit expensive per BTU but handy and makes the cabin smell nice. I bet Joe is thinking of those old-time pump-up alcohol stoves that had to be primed with kerosene and used a pressurized vapor at the burner. Those things were funky although I wouldn't call them really dangerous. Maybe Joe's had some leaks or else rusted-thru burner throats. Hey Joe, those things are dinosaurs... do you know anything about any technology that is more recent that say 1875? DSK |
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DSK wrote: Capt. JG wrote: You can put alcohol out with water. Joe wrote: Thats good, cuz when your covered with flames you an not see the best thing to do is jump in the water. IMHO alcohol is a perfectly OK fuel, a bit expensive per BTU but handy and makes the cabin smell nice. I bet Joe is thinking of those old-time pump-up alcohol stoves that had to be primed with kerosene and used a pressurized vapor at the burner. Those things were funky although I wouldn't call them really dangerous. Maybe Joe's had some leaks or else rusted-thru burner throats. Hey Joe, those things are dinosaurs... do you know anything about any technology that is more recent that say 1875? DSK No don't know anything about them, cept some lady on the other side of the lake caught on fire and got burned up pretty bad, don't remember all the details but not seeing herself on fire was a big factor, she jumped in the lake to put it out. Joe |
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Joe,
I had a two burner "Origo" and loved it. I've heard some bad reports about them. I've no proof of them but it did force to take special cautions. The worst I heard ,was a woman went to fill a canister that went dry and tried to fill it to finish cooking. It flashed she dropped the gallon container of Alcohol, which flashed and started a fire on the floor and cut off her ability to get to the extinguisher. Made a mess of the cabin and burnt she pretty bad. Like I say, don't know if true but made me get two extra canisters and always transload alcohol from gallon jug to a pint plastic bottle to refuel any canister. Always a cold canister. I loved those Alky instant light canisters. I also had a Origo Cabin heater but discovered it was a LOT cheaper to run the Diesel Aux. & Red Dot heater. 17 plus years and never a problem. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT http://community.webtv.net/tassail/IDONTFEELGOOD |
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Thom Stewart wrote:
Joe, I had a two burner "Origo" and loved it. I've heard some bad reports about them. I've no proof of them but it did force to take special cautions. The biggest precaution is to not try to fill the cannister when it's hot. They only have about 6 warning labels, with big red lettering, all over every part of the stove. The worst I heard ,was a woman went to fill a canister that went dry and tried to fill it to finish cooking. It flashed she dropped the gallon container of Alcohol, which flashed and started a fire on the floor and cut off her ability to get to the extinguisher. Made a mess of the cabin and burnt she pretty bad. Like I say, don't know if true but made me get two extra canisters and always transload alcohol from gallon jug to a pint plastic bottle to refuel any canister. Always a cold canister. We stored it in a camper's fuel jug, sturdy with a good pouring spout. The stuff evaporates out of the burner cannister, so you can't just fill it up and use it up, you have to pour a measured amount into the cannister before every use. Some would call that too much of a PITA, I found it less so than other systems (and certainly less so that running out of fuel half way thru making coffee). I think this is one of the complaints about the expense of alcohol as a cooking fuel, people don't realize how much they are allowing to evaporate. I loved those Alky instant light canisters. I also had a Origo Cabin heater but discovered it was a LOT cheaper to run the Diesel Aux. & Red Dot heater. 17 plus years and never a problem. We never had a problem either. DSK |
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"DSK" wrote in message . .. Capt. JG wrote: You can put alcohol out with water. Joe wrote: Thats good, cuz when your covered with flames you an not see the best thing to do is jump in the water. IMHO alcohol is a perfectly OK fuel, a bit expensive per BTU but handy and makes the cabin smell nice. You burning Brandy? When I had a non-pressurized alcohol stove, I hated the smell. SBV |
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IMHO alcohol is a perfectly OK fuel, a bit expensive per
BTU but handy and makes the cabin smell nice. Scotty wrote: You burning Brandy? When I had a non-pressurized alcohol stove, I hated the smell. Sometimes we used peppermint schnapps, sometimes apple brandy. For special occasions: Courvoisier XO. Gives new meaning to the phrase "beer bread." DSK |
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Jump in the water? Can't I just step into the shower? I have a pressurize
system. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Capt. JG wrote: You can put alcohol out with water. Thats good, cuz when your covered with flames you an not see the best thing to do is jump in the water. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message oups.com... Capt. JG wrote: I have a two-burner low pressure alcohol system (no oven). I'm thinking about converting it to CNG. a propane conversion isn't recommended by Sabre, apparently. I think it has to do with the difficulty of installation. You can even mount your tank outside. Alcohol is more dangerious IMO. Joe -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... Well we had the force 5 in the galley for about 6-8 mo. now. What a fuel saver, the gas will last about 3 times as long as with other stoves like Attwoods ect.. Has no pilot light to waste fuel. Easy to clean, solid HD stainless steel. Nothing but positive things to say about the stove. Joe |
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