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Capt. JG September 27th 06 05:13 PM

ASA question #312.6
 
I don't recall any US requirement for signage on an uninspected commercial
vessel, but since I didn't specifically say it was uninspected (although the
OUPV license would indicate as much), I'll give you a point for being
correct for inspected vessels. (Not a bad idea for all vessels, but the sign
might class with the mauve cushions. :-)

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"Martin Baxter" wrote in message
...
"Capt. JG" wrote:

Unfortunately, you've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard and found
not
to be in compliance for two issues related to the lifejackets. One of the
issues is kind of nitpicky, but these guys are thorough! The other is
obviously observed. What are these issues?

5 pts for the nitpicky issue.
2 pts for the obvious one.



You require signage, to so the idiot passengers can find them without
you pointing them out again!

Cheers
Marty




Capt. JG September 27th 06 05:16 PM

ASA question #312.6
 
Definitely two points for the lack of boat name on the PFDs. I don't believe
a whistle is required, however. I know a light is. If you happen to have a
reference for the whistle (a damn good/cheap item)....

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"Joe" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
You own and operate a commercial vessel under 12 meters upon the open
ocean
with your OUPV near coastal license. You have the requisite number of
offshore Type I PFDs purchased approximately one year ago. They are
stowed
in an easily accessible location, have never been opened nor used. The
passengers have been briefed on their donning and operation. They have a
chemical luminescent light attached to each of them, as required by the
regs.

Unfortunately, you've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard and found
not
to be in compliance for two issues related to the lifejackets. One of the
issues is kind of nitpicky, but these guys are thorough! The other is
obviously observed. What are these issues?

5 pts for the nitpicky issue.
2 pts for the obvious one.


New in the pkg means they do not have the boat name stenciled on them,
and they do not have a whistle.

Joe



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DSK September 27th 06 05:34 PM

ASA question #312.6
 
Capt. JG wrote:
Definitely two points for the lack of boat name on the PFDs. I don't believe
a whistle is required, however. I know a light is. If you happen to have a
reference for the whistle (a damn good/cheap item)....


If the lifejackets are new in the package, then how could
the lights have batteries in them?

DSK


DSK September 27th 06 06:39 PM

ASA question #312.6
 
If the lifejackets are new in the package, then how could
the lights have batteries in them?



Dave wrote:
Er....what kind of batteries does a chemical luminescent light use?



What kind of chemical luminescent light conforms to the
standard for emergency strobe lights at sea?

As for what kind of battery, obviously the kind that must be
a-salted.

DSK


katy September 27th 06 06:46 PM

ASA question #312.6
 
DSK wrote:
If the lifejackets are new in the package, then how could the lights
have batteries in them?



Dave wrote:
Er....what kind of batteries does a chemical luminescent light use?



What kind of chemical luminescent light conforms to the standard for
emergency strobe lights at sea?

As for what kind of battery, obviously the kind that must be a-salted.

DSK

Sodium?

Joe September 27th 06 06:50 PM

ASA question #312.6
 

Capt. JG wrote:
Definitely two points for the lack of boat name on the PFDs. I don't believe
a whistle is required, however. I know a light is. If you happen to have a
reference for the whistle (a damn good/cheap item)....


I dont have a copy of the CFR aboard. I just remember going thru many
inspections, stenciling, changing batteries, and making sure all
jackets had whistles.
If you have a CFR I bet it's in there.

And as Doug said, I doubt glow stick pass mustard.

Joe



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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Capt. JG wrote:
You own and operate a commercial vessel under 12 meters upon the open
ocean
with your OUPV near coastal license. You have the requisite number of
offshore Type I PFDs purchased approximately one year ago. They are
stowed
in an easily accessible location, have never been opened nor used. The
passengers have been briefed on their donning and operation. They have a
chemical luminescent light attached to each of them, as required by the
regs.

Unfortunately, you've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard and found
not
to be in compliance for two issues related to the lifejackets. One of the
issues is kind of nitpicky, but these guys are thorough! The other is
obviously observed. What are these issues?

5 pts for the nitpicky issue.
2 pts for the obvious one.


New in the pkg means they do not have the boat name stenciled on them,
and they do not have a whistle.

Joe



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Capt. JG September 27th 06 07:13 PM

ASA question #312.6
 
Good point! So, maybe the CG officer isn't as thorough as we thought!

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"DSK" wrote in message
. ..
Capt. JG wrote:
Definitely two points for the lack of boat name on the PFDs. I don't
believe a whistle is required, however. I know a light is. If you happen
to have a reference for the whistle (a damn good/cheap item)....


If the lifejackets are new in the package, then how could the lights have
batteries in them?

DSK




Capt. JG September 27th 06 07:14 PM

ASA question #312.6
 
Lights with batteries are acceptable according to the regs, but I think
there's a contradiction in the original question. My apologies for being
imprecise.

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"Dave" wrote in message
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On Wed, 27 Sep 2006 12:34:20 -0400, DSK said:

If the lifejackets are new in the package, then how could
the lights have batteries in them?


Er....what kind of batteries does a chemical luminescent light use?




Capt. JG September 27th 06 07:16 PM

ASA question #312.6
 
Actually, on that very question, I spoke with the CG officer responsible for
the information being updated just yesterday. Glow sticks are acceptable, as
long as they're CG approved and have an expiration date (they don't last
forever and the camping ones aren't kosher).

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"Joe" wrote in message
ups.com...

Capt. JG wrote:
Definitely two points for the lack of boat name on the PFDs. I don't
believe
a whistle is required, however. I know a light is. If you happen to have
a
reference for the whistle (a damn good/cheap item)....


I dont have a copy of the CFR aboard. I just remember going thru many
inspections, stenciling, changing batteries, and making sure all
jackets had whistles.
If you have a CFR I bet it's in there.

And as Doug said, I doubt glow stick pass mustard.

Joe



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Capt. JG wrote:
You own and operate a commercial vessel under 12 meters upon the open
ocean
with your OUPV near coastal license. You have the requisite number of
offshore Type I PFDs purchased approximately one year ago. They are
stowed
in an easily accessible location, have never been opened nor used. The
passengers have been briefed on their donning and operation. They have
a
chemical luminescent light attached to each of them, as required by
the
regs.

Unfortunately, you've been randomly boarded by the Coast Guard and
found
not
to be in compliance for two issues related to the lifejackets. One of
the
issues is kind of nitpicky, but these guys are thorough! The other is
obviously observed. What are these issues?

5 pts for the nitpicky issue.
2 pts for the obvious one.


New in the pkg means they do not have the boat name stenciled on them,
and they do not have a whistle.

Joe



--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com





DSK September 27th 06 07:40 PM

ASA question #312.6
 
Dave wrote:
The kind Jon posited in his hypothetical when he said: "They have a
chemical luminescent light attached to each of them, as required by the
regs."


Ah so. My mistake, that's what happens when you try to
answer a question after reading it 34 bad puns ago.

Battery powered strobes for lifejackets are definitely
approved, I have two and they have both been nodded at
approvingly by the USCG (even though they are British made).

DSK



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