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Captained a sea trial of a H43 today. What a bear of a boat! The thing
is quite difficult to handle compared to my quick 35s5, but winds were near perfect and she actually rolled along nicely once I had her trimmed right. The new owner plans to sail her to Florida, then Jamaica next season. http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/huntertrial.jpg The next few days look like great sailing weather! RB 35s5 NY |
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Oops...forgot to mention. The main went up at the push of a button!
Pretty cool, especially for an older couple. RB |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... Captained a sea trial of a H43 today. What a bear of a boat! The thing is quite difficult to handle compared to my quick 35s5, but winds were near perfect and she actually rolled along nicely once I had her trimmed right. The new owner plans to sail her to Florida, then Jamaica next season. http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/huntertrial.jpg Doesn't look like much wind. Is that one of those "rough" days? g Max |
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H stands for heel and/or head up. No instructor I know thinks they're worth
much. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Maxprop" wrote in message ink.net... "Capt. Rob" wrote in message oups.com... Captained a sea trial of a H43 today. What a bear of a boat! The thing is quite difficult to handle compared to my quick 35s5, but winds were near perfect and she actually rolled along nicely once I had her trimmed right. The new owner plans to sail her to Florida, then Jamaica next season. http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/huntertrial.jpg Doesn't look like much wind. Is that one of those "rough" days? g Max |
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Doesn't look like much wind. Is that one of those "rough" days? Shows you don't know much about boats. You need a good breeze to make the very stiff Hunter 43 heel like that. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... Doesn't look like much wind. Is that one of those "rough" days? Shows you don't know much about boats. You need a good breeze to make the very stiff Hunter 43 heel like that. That or really bad sail trim. The water shows no indication of strong winds and the sails no real strain. Were you sitting on the port rail and someone else took the pic? |
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H 43 selected as better liveaboard over the Beneteau 43:
http://www.sailboatowners.com/review...01135041222337 |
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If you thing sea state in the LIS is the only wind indicator, you've only further exposed your ignorance. September 25 2006 1:51 PM 71.1 °F 45.0 °F 39% 29.81 in 10.0 miles WNW 16.1 mph 20.7 mph N/A Scattered Clouds 2:51 PM 72.0 °F 45.0 °F 38% 29.81 in 10.0 miles WNW 16.1 mph - N/A Mostly Cloudy 3:51 PM 72.0 °F 44.1 °F 37% 29.79 in 10.0 miles West 10.4 mph - N/A Scattered Clouds 4:51 PM 73.0 °F 44.1 °F 35% 29.79 in 10.0 miles West 15.0 mph 19.6 mph N/A Partly Cloudy 5:51 PM 72.0 °F 46.0 °F 40% 29.80 in 10.0 miles West 13.8 mph - N/A Or see the WHOLE link, if you doubt it. http://weather.newsday.com/auto/news...sta tename=NA SMACKDOWN!!!!!!!! Bye bye! Sailing again this afternoon. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Swab Rob" wrote in ... - - - -If you thing - - -Bye bye! Sailing again this afternoon. What's your destination? |
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I've been on several large Hunters in the SF bay with wind speeds over 20
kts. They round up like crazy and don't hold a course well. They were impossible to trim well. Every single instructor who teaches on them has only negative things to say. Also, the heel in the picture isn't that much. Must not have been a good breeze... no white caps, no spray. Interestingly, Rob contributed not one item when there was a flurry of ASA questions. I guess he knows a lot about boats and sailing. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Gilligan" wrote in message . .. "Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... Doesn't look like much wind. Is that one of those "rough" days? Shows you don't know much about boats. You need a good breeze to make the very stiff Hunter 43 heel like that. That or really bad sail trim. The water shows no indication of strong winds and the sails no real strain. Were you sitting on the port rail and someone else took the pic? |
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Oh, they're great for a liveaboard until all the crappy joinery starts to
become obvious. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Gilligan" wrote in message . .. H 43 selected as better liveaboard over the Beneteau 43: http://www.sailboatowners.com/review...01135041222337 |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... I've been on several large Hunters in the SF bay with wind speeds over 20 kts. They round up like crazy and don't hold a course well. They were impossible to trim well. Every single instructor who teaches on them has only negative things to say. Also, the heel in the picture isn't that much. Must not have been a good breeze... no white caps, no spray. Interestingly, Rob contributed not one item when there was a flurry of ASA questions. I guess he knows a lot about boats and sailing. Yeah, let's keep it going like that. SBV |
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You really have to stop using the airport weather from 10 miles away
when you make up stories. There's a good weather station just a couple of miles from your slip that says the wind was 10 knots, gusts to 14, diminishing all afternoon. So I guess that's what you mean by "good breeze". http://tidesandcurrents.noaa.gov/cgi...lot_size=large http://tinyurl.com/qara6 Capt. Rob wrote: If you thing sea state in the LIS is the only wind indicator, you've only further exposed your ignorance. September 25 2006 1:51 PM 71.1 °F 45.0 °F 39% 29.81 in 10.0 miles WNW 16.1 mph 20.7 mph N/A Scattered Clouds 2:51 PM 72.0 °F 45.0 °F 38% 29.81 in 10.0 miles WNW 16.1 mph - N/A Mostly Cloudy 3:51 PM 72.0 °F 44.1 °F 37% 29.79 in 10.0 miles West 10.4 mph - N/A Scattered Clouds 4:51 PM 73.0 °F 44.1 °F 35% 29.79 in 10.0 miles West 15.0 mph 19.6 mph N/A Partly Cloudy 5:51 PM 72.0 °F 46.0 °F 40% 29.80 in 10.0 miles West 13.8 mph - N/A Or see the WHOLE link, if you doubt it. http://weather.newsday.com/auto/news...sta tename=NA SMACKDOWN!!!!!!!! Bye bye! Sailing again this afternoon. RB 35s5 NY |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote | Shows you don't know much about boats. You need a good breeze to make | the very stiff Hunter 43 heel like that. Shows your a liar again. That's the same boat you have pictures of on your list of pictures. And from way back in October 2005. Did the sea trial take almost a year? Hee hee! People look here http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/ You'll see other "hunter" pictures of the same boat from last year. Duh! Delete Capt. Rob's posts. They're all made up. He's just yanking your chain..... Cheers, Ellen |
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"Jeff" wrote in message . .. You really have to stop using the airport weather from 10 miles away when you make up stories. There's a good weather station just a couple of miles from your slip that says the wind was 10 knots, gusts to 14, diminishing all afternoon. So I guess that's what you mean by "good breeze". No, that was ''rough''! |
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Another 7 mile round trip?
"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... If you thing sea state in the LIS is the only wind indicator, you've only further exposed your ignorance. September 25 2006 1:51 PM 71.1 °F 45.0 °F 39% 29.81 in 10.0 miles WNW 16.1 mph 20.7 mph N/A Scattered Clouds 2:51 PM 72.0 °F 45.0 °F 38% 29.81 in 10.0 miles WNW 16.1 mph - N/A Mostly Cloudy 3:51 PM 72.0 °F 44.1 °F 37% 29.79 in 10.0 miles West 10.4 mph - N/A Scattered Clouds 4:51 PM 73.0 °F 44.1 °F 35% 29.79 in 10.0 miles West 15.0 mph 19.6 mph N/A Partly Cloudy 5:51 PM 72.0 °F 46.0 °F 40% 29.80 in 10.0 miles West 13.8 mph - N/A Or see the WHOLE link, if you doubt it. http://weather.newsday.com/auto/news...sta tename=NA SMACKDOWN!!!!!!!! Bye bye! Sailing again this afternoon. RB 35s5 NY |
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On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:55:21 -0700, "Capt. JG"
wrote: I've been on several large Hunters in the SF bay with wind speeds over 20 kts. They round up like crazy and don't hold a course well. They were impossible to trim well. I chartered a Hunter passage 42 probably a late 90's model. Took it outside the Sea of Abaco to the open atlantic one day when the wind was up pretty good. Handled like a dream. Very good balance. I was impressed I expected much less. Handled, in my opinion, much better than the later Beneteaus I've raced on for the last two seasons. A 311 and a 343. I'll admit to not being on either of them long enough to learn to properly trim to the weather and they were new to the owner also, but they seemed much less forgiving. Every single instructor who teaches on them has only negative things to say. Also, the heel in the picture isn't that much. Must not have been a good breeze... no white caps, no spray. From the picture, I would say "sea" trial was a misnomer. More like a LIS trial. Frank Interestingly, Rob contributed not one item when there was a flurry of ASA questions. I guess he knows a lot about boats and sailing. |
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Ellen MacArthur wrote: "Capt. Rob" wrote | Shows you don't know much about boats. You need a good breeze to make | the very stiff Hunter 43 heel like that. Shows your a liar again. That's the same boat you have pictures of on your list of pictures. And from way back in October 2005. Did the sea trial take almost a year? Hee hee! People look here http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/ You'll see other "hunter" pictures of the same boat from last year. Duh! Delete Capt. Rob's posts. They're all made up. He's just yanking your chain..... Cheers, Ellen By golly that looks like the same kind of boat, even has that wadded up canvas in the same place. But i've seen boats sit around here for years untouched, then someone buys them. Rob would never spin a tell, would he? Some dumbass bought it and Rob was surveying her making sure nothing's go to break, you can tell he's pushing it to the limit with wicked airport winds, don't let that false looking sea state in his fine photos fool you Ellen, LIS is sheltered and you can have a raging storm and just the slightest chopp. He was shaken her down, an manly mans job. Joe |
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Nutsy,
How in the Hell can you call a test sail in LIS with winds under 10 knots a "Sea Trial"?? The state of the water ( No White Caps) indicate upper Force 2 or lower Force 3. It does look like great conditions for a good sail, but a Sea Trial? I don't think so but to each his own. By the way, that heel is roughly 15 degrees and that is just about in the groove. Looks like you've got it trimmed properly. I truly envy you! Enjoy! Nice looking Boat. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT |
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I would be willing to take him out of my killfile if I had some assurance
that he would contribute to the sailing discussion vs. promoting his own toys and/or putting down others'. I apologize. I know that's unlikely. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Dave" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:55:21 -0700, "Capt. JG" said: Interestingly, Rob contributed not one item when there was a flurry of ASA questions. I guess he knows a lot about boats and sailing. Please, Jon. Don't encourage him. |
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I'm not familiar with the HP 42. I had a H42 out the Gate a month or so ago.
Fortunately, it was a very mild day, but she still heeled over like we were beating through 20 kts on other boats. I found her to be very sensitive to wind gusts, given the size of the boat. The interior looked great, except when you took a closer look and found cracks in the bulkhead due to flexing, apparently. This was a much newer boat than late 90s. Not certain, but I believe it was a 2001 or 2002. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Frank Boettcher" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 08:55:21 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: I've been on several large Hunters in the SF bay with wind speeds over 20 kts. They round up like crazy and don't hold a course well. They were impossible to trim well. I chartered a Hunter passage 42 probably a late 90's model. Took it outside the Sea of Abaco to the open atlantic one day when the wind was up pretty good. Handled like a dream. Very good balance. I was impressed I expected much less. Handled, in my opinion, much better than the later Beneteaus I've raced on for the last two seasons. A 311 and a 343. I'll admit to not being on either of them long enough to learn to properly trim to the weather and they were new to the owner also, but they seemed much less forgiving. Every single instructor who teaches on them has only negative things to say. Also, the heel in the picture isn't that much. Must not have been a good breeze... no white caps, no spray. From the picture, I would say "sea" trial was a misnomer. More like a LIS trial. Frank Interestingly, Rob contributed not one item when there was a flurry of ASA questions. I guess he knows a lot about boats and sailing. |
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Finally, I can say that I appreciate a post of yours. :-)
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message reenews.net... "Capt. Rob" wrote | Shows you don't know much about boats. You need a good breeze to make | the very stiff Hunter 43 heel like that. Shows your a liar again. That's the same boat you have pictures of on your list of pictures. And from way back in October 2005. Did the sea trial take almost a year? Hee hee! People look here http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/ You'll see other "hunter" pictures of the same boat from last year. Duh! Delete Capt. Rob's posts. They're all made up. He's just yanking your chain..... Cheers, Ellen |
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Nutsy,
Jeff wrote; ---------------------------------------------------- There's a good weather station just a couple of miles from your slip that says the wind was 10 knots, gusts to 14, diminishing all afternoon. ---------------------------------------------------- Now, Nutsy; That is a true SMACKDOWN!!!! and it's backed by your own Photograph http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT |
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10kts... almost not worth sailing in out here.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Thom Stewart" wrote in message ... Nutsy, Jeff wrote; ---------------------------------------------------- There's a good weather station just a couple of miles from your slip that says the wind was 10 knots, gusts to 14, diminishing all afternoon. ---------------------------------------------------- Now, Nutsy; That is a true SMACKDOWN!!!! and it's backed by your own Photograph http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT |
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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message reenews.net... "Capt. Rob" wrote | Shows you don't know much about boats. You need a good breeze to make | the very stiff Hunter 43 heel like that. Shows your a liar again. That's the same boat you have pictures of on your list of pictures. And from way back in October 2005. Did the sea trial take almost a year? Hee hee! People look here http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/ You'll see other "hunter" pictures of the same boat from last year. Duh! Delete Capt. Rob's posts. They're all made up. He's just yanking your chain..... Cheers, Ellen Looking through that directory one can see that Sudsy is a bleach blonde. |
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"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... I would be willing to take him out of my killfile if I had some assurance that he would contribute to the sailing discussion vs. promoting his own toys and/or putting down others'. That's about as likely as Krusty behaving like a normal human being. Scotty |
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Scotty wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote in message ... I would be willing to take him out of my killfile if I had some assurance that he would contribute to the sailing discussion vs. promoting his own toys and/or putting down others'. That's about as likely as Krusty behaving like a normal human being. Scotty He's been doing pretty well at it lately... |
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10 kts isn't that interesting out here. If it's not a small craft advisory
day, it's kinda boring. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 15:09:06 -0700, "Capt. JG" wrote: 10kts... almost not worth sailing in out here. And you consider that an advantage somehow? CWM |
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"katy" wrote in message ... Scotty wrote: "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... I would be willing to take him out of my killfile if I had some assurance that he would contribute to the sailing discussion vs. promoting his own toys and/or putting down others'. That's about as likely as Krusty behaving like a normal human being. Scotty He's been doing pretty well at it lately... tick tock...tick tock...tick |
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That's about as likely as Krusty behaving like a normal
human being. katy wrote: He's been doing pretty well at it lately... Other than stirring up **** over Scout's new boat, and acting like a spiteful child over the wind generator questions, and sucking up to Dave (wonder if he thinks he's going to need a lawyer soon). Yeah, he's acting pretty normal... for Bill/Krusty. DSK |
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DSK wrote:
That's about as likely as Krusty behaving like a normal human being. katy wrote: He's been doing pretty well at it lately... Other than stirring up **** over Scout's new boat, and acting like a spiteful child over the wind generator questions, and sucking up to Dave (wonder if he thinks he's going to need a lawyer soon). Yeah, he's acting pretty normal... for Bill/Krusty. DSK I was applying the concept that even faint praise makes a difference |
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see!
"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:31:20 -0400, DSK wrote: That's about as likely as Krusty behaving like a normal human being. katy wrote: He's been doing pretty well at it lately... Other than stirring up **** over Scout's new boat, I stirred up nothing. I spoke up in defense of Scout, and the regulars circled their wagons and ganged up on him. Why don't you like him? and acting like a spiteful child over the wind generator questions, I just said exactly what many others here said, including your beloved Katy. Is she a spiteful child too? Why don't you like her any more? and sucking up to Dave (wonder if he thinks he's going to need a lawyer soon). Yeah, I'm really sucking up to Dave. I'm just falling all over myself trying to please him. You are the one who may be needing a lawyer, from what I've been told. CWM |
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Scotty wrote:
see! "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:31:20 -0400, DSK wrote: That's about as likely as Krusty behaving like a normal human being. katy wrote: He's been doing pretty well at it lately... Other than stirring up **** over Scout's new boat, I stirred up nothing. I spoke up in defense of Scout, and the regulars circled their wagons and ganged up on him. Why don't you like him? and acting like a spiteful child over the wind generator questions, I just said exactly what many others here said, including your beloved Katy. Is she a spiteful child too? Why don't you like her any more? and sucking up to Dave (wonder if he thinks he's going to need a lawyer soon). Yeah, I'm really sucking up to Dave. I'm just falling all over myself trying to please him. You are the one who may be needing a lawyer, from what I've been told. CWM ....sigh.... |
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"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:31:20 -0400, DSK wrote: That's about as likely as Krusty behaving like a normal human being. katy wrote: He's been doing pretty well at it lately... Other than stirring up **** over Scout's new boat, I stirred up nothing. I spoke up in defense of Scout, and the regulars circled their wagons and ganged up on him. Why don't you like him? I read the thread. You were respectful and truthful. They were the jerks, you acted quite decently. It seems they were some type of destructive cult. and acting like a spiteful child over the wind generator questions, I just said exactly what many others here said, including your beloved Katy. Is she a spiteful child too? Why don't you like her any more? and sucking up to Dave (wonder if he thinks he's going to need a lawyer soon). Yeah, I'm really sucking up to Dave. I'm just falling all over myself trying to please him. You are the one who may be needing a lawyer, from what I've been told. CWM When Krusty isn't being mean, he is a very rational and informed person. I bet in real life he is an upstanding person. He has the power to be asshole when he needs to be (and guess what, in the real world sometimes you need this). |
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"Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... Doesn't look like much wind. Is that one of those "rough" days? Shows you don't know much about boats. You need a good breeze to make the very stiff Hunter 43 heel like that. Stiff? Hunter??? Max |
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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message reenews.net... "Capt. Rob" wrote | Shows you don't know much about boats. You need a good breeze to make | the very stiff Hunter 43 heel like that. Shows your a liar again. That's the same boat you have pictures of on your list of pictures. And from way back in October 2005. Did the sea trial take almost a year? Hee hee! People look here http://members.aol.com/bobsprit/images/ You'll see other "hunter" pictures of the same boat from last year. Duh! Delete Capt. Rob's posts. They're all made up. He's just yanking your chain..... Good call, Ellen/Neal. How about some more photos of the sweet young thing, whomever she is. Max |
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Yeah Katy,
Better than Neal. He is in so many "KILL FILES" that to get thru with his same old DUM BS he is using a Sock Puppet's ID to post. http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT |
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so
"katy" wrote in message ... Scotty wrote: see! "Charlie Morgan" wrote in message ... On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 19:31:20 -0400, DSK wrote: That's about as likely as Krusty behaving like a normal human being. katy wrote: He's been doing pretty well at it lately... Other than stirring up **** over Scout's new boat, I stirred up nothing. I spoke up in defense of Scout, and the regulars circled their wagons and ganged up on him. Why don't you like him? and acting like a spiteful child over the wind generator questions, I just said exactly what many others here said, including your beloved Katy. Is she a spiteful child too? Why don't you like her any more? and sucking up to Dave (wonder if he thinks he's going to need a lawyer soon). Yeah, I'm really sucking up to Dave. I'm just falling all over myself trying to please him. You are the one who may be needing a lawyer, from what I've been told. CWM ...sigh.... |
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It's oxymoronic. And, the ones I've been on flex like crazy. Of course, you
can't tell if there's no wind. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Maxprop" wrote in message nk.net... "Capt. Rob" wrote in message ups.com... Doesn't look like much wind. Is that one of those "rough" days? Shows you don't know much about boats. You need a good breeze to make the very stiff Hunter 43 heel like that. Stiff? Hunter??? Max |
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Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Tue, 26 Sep 2006 20:20:59 -0400, "Scotty" wrote: see! Sea! CWM Si'! |
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