While you may not use it often or ever, using an anchor
to get off a dock is one way to distinguish the breath of
knowledge of a sailor. As CM stated, you don't need an
engine to get off a dock. If you have an engine and it fails,
you still have the option of using an anchor to get off a dock.
That is seamanship.

Capt. JG wrote:
Who gives a sh*t. Kedging is used by those who know when to use it and when
not to use it. You don't need to kedge off a dock to get going 99.999% of
the time.

Nothing in the link provided describes kedging so you can sail away from a
dock.

If you want to discuss running aground and how to deal with that, feel free,
but to use your anchor to leave a dock is not something that should be
considered without a lot of forethought. I suppose you're going to swing it
over your head and then throw it like the hammer throw in the Olympics? What
a joke.

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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
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Capt. JG said "You need to get past the anchor thing. It's not going
to help you much."


You've been nothing but snooty to me today. What's wrong? Get up on
the wrong side of the bed? :-)
But, I forgive you. No, not for your silly statement about the *anchor
thing*. BTW it's called *kedging*.
So you're wrong about using anchors for kedging off docks and so forth.
Maybe you should click this link:
http://www.nsc.ca/nsc_library/techta...te_kedging.htm
As you can see captain, it's a time honored tradition. How do you
think they got boats off docks before
motors were invented? Did they wait until the wind was right? Maybe you
should Google "kedging". You'll
see how it's valuable to know about it.
Anchors aren't just for anchoring.

Cheers,
Ellen

You clearly can't read. I have already said several times that it's possible
to do that, but it is hardly ever necessary. I think you're really trying
hard to be stupid, because no one could do it as well as you so naturally.

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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote
| Nothing in the link provided describes kedging so you can sail away from
a
| dock.


I guess you never read the part that says "The Manual of Seamanship
for Boys and Seamen of the
Royal Navy, 1904 (a recent fathers day gift) defines kedging as follows:
“Laying the kedge anchor out
in a boat and warping ahead to it”.
Are you saying you can't kedge off a dock? Are you saying I can't row
an anchor out from a dock and
warp ahead to it? Duh! Do you know how silly you sound? I hope your just
trying to joke around. A dry
sense of humor perhaps? Quick get the captain a fire hose. Wet him down.


Cheers,
Ellen

I never said otherwise. I could also kedge off a building or piling if that
made sense. It rarely does in the situation you described. You didn't say
what is the one option you want to hear. You ask an open-ended question
about how one should do it. I answered, and I answered correctly. Sure, you
can use an anchor. You can also use another boat, a building, a piling, or
if you're Jesus, you could walk on water while towing the line and boat with
you. The later ways are not common nor usually necessary. Knowing the best
technique and attempting to apply it is a lot more sailorly than trying to
do something without thinking it through. How do you plan on kedging if
you're alone at the dock? None of the people who have touting this anchoring
technique have yet to say. I'm still waiting.

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wrote in message
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While you may not use it often or ever, using an anchor
to get off a dock is one way to distinguish the breath of
knowledge of a sailor. As CM stated, you don't need an
engine to get off a dock. If you have an engine and it fails,
you still have the option of using an anchor to get off a dock.
That is seamanship.

Capt. JG wrote:
Who gives a sh*t. Kedging is used by those who know when to use it and
when
not to use it. You don't need to kedge off a dock to get going 99.999% of
the time.

Nothing in the link provided describes kedging so you can sail away from
a
dock.

If you want to discuss running aground and how to deal with that, feel
free,
but to use your anchor to leave a dock is not something that should be
considered without a lot of forethought. I suppose you're going to swing
it
over your head and then throw it like the hammer throw in the Olympics?
What
a joke.

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www.sailnow.com

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...
Capt. JG said "You need to get past the anchor thing. It's not
going
to help you much."


You've been nothing but snooty to me today. What's wrong? Get up on
the wrong side of the bed? :-)
But, I forgive you. No, not for your silly statement about the *anchor
thing*. BTW it's called *kedging*.
So you're wrong about using anchors for kedging off docks and so forth.
Maybe you should click this link:
http://www.nsc.ca/nsc_library/techta...te_kedging.htm
As you can see captain, it's a time honored tradition. How do you
think they got boats off docks before
motors were invented? Did they wait until the wind was right? Maybe you
should Google "kedging". You'll
see how it's valuable to know about it.
Anchors aren't just for anchoring.

Cheers,
Ellen

Capt. JG wrote:
.. I suppose you're going to swing it
over your head and then throw it like the hammer throw in the Olympics?

Thats how I do it with the 80LB aluminum danforth to get off oyster
reefs, that or just jump on the reef and walk it out, if it's to deep I
might even use the dink.

Joe

"Joe" wrote in message
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Capt. JG wrote:
. I suppose you're going to swing it
over your head and then throw it like the hammer throw in the Olympics?

Thats how I do it with the 80LB aluminum danforth to get off oyster
reefs, that or just jump on the reef and walk it out, if it's to deep I
might even use the dink.

Ganz is an ignorant dipstick. He refuses to learn anything that is not
outlined in a course book. Jon is the epitome of what is wrong with sailing
today. He's a pompous little dock diva with delusions of adequacy.

At least Ganzy can take cold comfort in the fact that I bother to take him
to task for his stupidity...... something I wouldn't bother doing with a
lap dog charlatan like Chucky.

CM-

Mooron is a pathetic little man, who tries to compensate for that fact by
berating others. Quite sad really.

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"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Capt. JG wrote:
. I suppose you're going to swing it
over your head and then throw it like the hammer throw in the Olympics?

Thats how I do it with the 80LB aluminum danforth to get off oyster
reefs, that or just jump on the reef and walk it out, if it's to deep I
might even use the dink.

Ganz is an ignorant dipstick. He refuses to learn anything that is not
outlined in a course book. Jon is the epitome of what is wrong with
sailing today. He's a pompous little dock diva with delusions of adequacy.

At least Ganzy can take cold comfort in the fact that I bother to take him
to task for his stupidity...... something I wouldn't bother doing with a
lap dog charlatan like Chucky.

CM-

"Capt. JG" wrote

| Mooron is a pathetic little man, who tries to compensate for that fact by
| berating others.


Now isn't that precious? You've spent the last week berating me. You've got
some nerve accusing somebody else of doing it. God bless you, captain.

Cheers,
Ellen

I'm sorry, but you're not a weeks worth of anyone's time, especially mine.
I've got lots of nerve a lot more brain power than you, apparently.

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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote

| Mooron is a pathetic little man, who tries to compensate for that fact
by
| berating others.


Now isn't that precious? You've spent the last week berating me. You've
got
some nerve accusing somebody else of doing it. God bless you, captain.

Cheers,
Ellen

"Capt. JG" wrote
| I've got lots of nerve a lot more brain power than you, apparently.


And probably the same thing between your legs as me, too....


Cheers,
Ellen

You have a dick? You must be LP.

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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
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"Capt. JG" wrote
| I've got lots of nerve a lot more brain power than you, apparently.


And probably the same thing between your legs as me, too....


Cheers,
Ellen