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Ellen MacArthur September 16th 06 06:31 PM

Docking Situation Question #4
 

wrote
| You are motoring into a guest slip at a strange dock,
| in a 34' Catalina with diesel auxiliary. You realize
| someone has taken your guest berth and there are no
| others available. The fairway is 40' wide.
|
| What is the procedure for turning around without
| outside assistance. [Assume Right Hand Prop]


No fair! Foul!!!! Time out... That's not a sailing question....

Cheers,
Ellen

Scotty September 16th 06 06:42 PM

Docking Situation Question #4
 

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
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| You are motoring into a guest slip at a strange dock,
| in a 34' Catalina with diesel auxiliary. You realize
| someone has taken your guest berth and there are no
| others available. The fairway is 40' wide.



I would cut his dock lines and push it out of my berth.

Scotty



Capt. JG September 16th 06 07:30 PM

Docking Situation Question #4
 
I sure have thought about doing it... :-)

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"Scotty" wrote in message
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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
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| You are motoring into a guest slip at a strange dock,
| in a 34' Catalina with diesel auxiliary. You realize
| someone has taken your guest berth and there are no
| others available. The fairway is 40' wide.



I would cut his dock lines and push it out of my berth.

Scotty





silverback September 16th 06 10:10 PM

Docking Situation Question #4
 
First off I can turn even my 30 ft full keeler in a 40 ft fairway...
crosswind or not. I can also station keep with my single screw. The one time
I had to effect an emergency stop and 180 into a narrow docking facilty...
sailing in... no auxillary on or engaged. I dropped the hook, it brought me
staight about and then I dropped the genny, engaged the engine and weighed
hook to exit the area. It was the slickest thing you've ever seen.

More sailors should take time to practise maneuvers under power and sail
with their vessels to really comprehend not only the limitations ... but the
potential.

Drift or "carry" is another thing I find most sailors don't understand about
their vessels.

To answer your question..... reverse to your walk and swing the bow thru
the wind if a fin keeler...... opposite if you are a full keeler. [
Remember to hug to the appropraite side of the channel... windward for fin
keeler and leeward for full keeler.]

CM

"Scotty" wrote in message
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Why turn around?

SBV


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oups.com..
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You are motoring into a guest slip at a strange dock,
in a 34' Catalina with diesel auxiliary. You realize
someone has taken your guest berth and there are no
others available. The fairway is 40' wide.

What is the procedure for turning around without
outside assistance. [Assume Right Hand Prop]

2 pts for complete answers






DSK September 17th 06 10:01 PM

Docking Situation Question #4
 
silverback wrote:

First off I can turn even my 30 ft full keeler in a 40 ft fairway...
crosswind or not. I can also station keep with my single screw.


When you understand prop walk and the wash against the
rudder, you do a number of things. There also things that
cannot be done, and prop walk has it's limits.


... The one time
I had to effect an emergency stop and 180 into a narrow docking facilty...
sailing in... no auxillary on or engaged. I dropped the hook


heh heh they did that in "Pirates of the Caribbean" too.


... it brought me
staight about and then I dropped the genny, engaged the engine and weighed
hook to exit the area. It was the slickest thing you've ever seen.

More sailors should take time to practise maneuvers under power and sail
with their vessels to really comprehend not only the limitations ... but the
potential.


Agreed.

Drift or "carry" is another thing I find most sailors don't understand about
their vessels.


Relatively few people practice any maneuvers; much less work
out ways of carrying out less-common ones and practice those.

It is one reason why racers are better sailors... they
regularly carry out a lot more actions under varying
conditions, and do them more often.


To answer your question..... reverse to your walk and swing the bow thru
the wind if a fin keeler...... opposite if you are a full keeler. [
Remember to hug to the appropraite side of the channel... windward for fin
keeler and leeward for full keeler.]


Why would you hug the lee side of a channel if a full keeler??

Fresh Breezes- Doug King


Bart Senior September 19th 06 03:46 PM

Docking Situation Question #4
 
What if you can't make a full turn? some back and forth is
necessary.

"Joe" wrote

wrote:
You are motoring into a guest slip at a strange dock,
in a 34' Catalina with diesel auxiliary. You realize
someone has taken your guest berth and there are no
others available. The fairway is 40' wide.

What is the procedure for turning around without
outside assistance. [Assume Right Hand Prop]

2 pts for complete answers


Turn to the stbd and back down hard to pivot around..

Joe




Bart Senior September 19th 06 03:48 PM

Docking Situation Question #4
 
Burst of throttle in forward would not be appropriate.
More prolonged throttling in forward a single time is
correct, with burst in reverse to take advantage of
prop walk.

"PrefersOffshore" wrote

From center of fairway turn right rudder to the stops, give burst of

throttle alternating both forward and reverse. If too close to one
side of fairway, adjust fore or aft to correct, as you spin around on
keel in overall length - fin keel does have an advantage at times.

Joe wrote:
wrote:
You are motoring into a guest slip at a strange dock,
in a 34' Catalina with diesel auxiliary. You realize
someone has taken your guest berth and there are no
others available. The fairway is 40' wide.

What is the procedure for turning around without
outside assistance. [Assume Right Hand Prop]

2 pts for complete answers


Turn to the stbd and back down hard to pivot around..

Joe





Bart Senior September 19th 06 03:52 PM

Docking Situation Question #4
 
Good point Scotty. However I wanted to address
how to back and fill with this question.

"Scotty" wrote in message
...
Why turn around?

SBV


wrote in message
oups.com..
.
You are motoring into a guest slip at a strange dock,
in a 34' Catalina with diesel auxiliary. You realize
someone has taken your guest berth and there are no
others available. The fairway is 40' wide.

What is the procedure for turning around without
outside assistance. [Assume Right Hand Prop]

2 pts for complete answers






Bart Senior September 19th 06 03:55 PM

Docking Situation Question #4
 
1 point to you.

"PrefersOffshore" wrote

From center of fairway turn right rudder to the stops, give burst of

throttle alternating both forward and reverse. If too close to one
side of fairway, adjust fore or aft to correct, as you spin around on
keel in overall length - fin keel does have an advantage at times.




Bart Senior September 19th 06 04:00 PM

Docking Situation Question #4
 
Explain why you would want the windward side for
a Fin keel? (The question was for a Catalina 34)

Also, why leeward for full keel?


"silverback" wrote

First off I can turn even my 30 ft full keeler in a 40 ft fairway...
crosswind or not. I can also station keep with my single screw. The one
time I had to effect an emergency stop and 180 into a narrow docking
facilty... sailing in... no auxillary on or engaged. I dropped the hook,
it brought me staight about and then I dropped the genny, engaged the
engine and weighed hook to exit the area. It was the slickest thing
you've ever seen.

More sailors should take time to practise maneuvers under power and sail
with their vessels to really comprehend not only the limitations ... but
the potential.

Drift or "carry" is another thing I find most sailors don't understand
about their vessels.

To answer your question..... reverse to your walk and swing the bow thru
the wind if a fin keeler...... opposite if you are a full keeler. [
Remember to hug to the appropraite side of the channel... windward for fin
keeler and leeward for full keeler.]

CM





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