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Docking Situation Question #2
1/2 point for you Joe.
It is better to use an forward spring line to pivot the boat off the dock. A stern line would let the boat slip aft a bit and could be trouble if there is a boat close behind you. For those who don't know, an forward spring is a line from the aft of the boat forward to a point on the dock admiships for foarther forward on the dock. It prevents the boat from moving backwards. I like to double up the line so it starts at an aft cleat, goes forward on the dock, one turn, and back to the aft cleat or perhaps a winch. I can ease if from the boat as the boat pivots away from the dock. Why does the boat pivot? Because you back the jib to push the bow away from the dock. This works with any size sailboat--even very large schooners. "Joe" wrote in message ups.com... wrote: How do you sail off a dock when the wind is on the bow? [Assume an end-tie situation] 1 pt. Hoist the fore sail, toss the bow lines, spring out with yor stern line and yer off. Joe |
Docking Situation Question #2
1/2 point for Jon for mentioning that the jib backs.
"Capt. JG" wrote Tighten the jib at the dock. Cast off the bow line hall in on the stern line. As the jib back winds, you start falling away from the dock. Release the stern line, move the jib to the other side. You're gone. wrote How do you sail off a dock when the wind is on the bow? [Assume an end-tie situation] 1 pt. |
Docking Situation Question #2
Bart Senior wrote:
1/2 point for you Joe. It is better to use an forward spring line to pivot the boat off the dock. A stern line would let the boat slip aft a bit and could be trouble if there is a boat close behind you. For those who don't know, an forward spring is a line from the aft of the boat forward to a point on the dock admiships for foarther forward on the dock. It prevents the boat from moving backwards. I like to double up the line so it starts at an aft cleat, goes forward on the dock, one turn, and back to the aft cleat or perhaps a winch. I can ease if from the boat as the boat pivots away from the dock. Why does the boat pivot? Because you back the jib to push the bow away from the dock. This works with any size sailboat--even very large schooners. About 80% of the time we use the doubled back forward spring to spring the boat off the dock. Of course, I'm not often sailing off, and I'd guess Mooron would consider using twin diesels cheating. |
Docking Situation Question #2
Sez just about anyone who's ever tried it.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message reenews.net... "Capt. JG" wrote | You don't need, nor should you use, an anchor to sail away from a dock. Sez who? Cheers, Ellen |
Docking Situation Question #2
You're not safer using an anchor. You're using more equipment that
necessary. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message reenews.net... "Jeff" wrote | You certainly don't need it for your boat. | | I can understand using it for a 6 ton crab crusher. For that matter, | I'm not sure about my boat, especially if I had a lot of constraints. | | On the other hand, I did it many times, perhaps hundreds, with boats | like a Rhodes 19. You just push it off and get going. Or you get | someone else to push the boom. I'd rather be safe than sorry. It's better not to put other boats at risk because you cut things too close. It's not fun being embarrassed because you ran into somebody's boat. Using an anchor to kedge off is tried and true and professional. It's just about foolproof. Cheers, Ellen |
Docking Situation Question #2
You sound awfully angry... poor guy.
-- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "silverback" wrote in message news:HE_Og.18286$E67.12073@clgrps13... IDIOT! "Capt. JG" wrote in message ... You don't need, nor should you use, an anchor to sail away from a dock. -- "j" ganz @@ www.sailnow.com "Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message reenews.net... wrote | How do you sail off a dock when the wind is on | the bow? [Assume an end-tie situation] 1 pt. Attach the line from a small anchor to a cleat on the front of your boat. Row the anchor out with your dinghy. Drop the anchor three or four boat lengths in front of your bow. Untie the dock lines and pull on the anchor line till your over the anchor. Weigh the anchor and off you go... Cheers, Ellen |
Docking Situation Question #2
"Jeff" wrote in message Good Grief, what a wimp! Tell me how professional you feel when the club launch fouls on your anchor line while you're rowing back in the dink. What a total idiotic comment that is Jeff! The only whinning wimp I can see here is you spouting force loads of 700 to 1000 lbs. Hogwash! Sailing a dinghy or even a small keel boat off of a lee dock is one of the basic maneuvers that you have to learn. If you have any concerns, you are permitted to practice it a few times when the dock is empty. Or even find an unused dock to practice on in different conditions. Big difference between a punt and a boat Jeff!!!! Casting off is a useful skill, worth learning in its own right. But spending half an hour doing when someone else can just hop in the boat and sail off, doesn't look too professional. Yeah Jeff... you can sail off a lee dock in gale force winds without a kedge and no auxilliary! Shure Jeff! Tell us about the time you sailed backward for six hours now.... Thing is... none of you have ever handled a large vessel with no auxillary off a lee dock.... you are talking bull****! I have handled as such... and it's obvious that you're totally devoid of any experience regarding this matter. As Bart said... shut up and listen to people with actual experience here. It's obvious you have none. CM |
Docking Situation Question #2
Jeff... shut up until you have a clue about what you're talking about.... so
far you don't! ....and quit quoting your reference manual... you sound like Ganzy. CM "Jeff" wrote in message . .. Now that's just being wimpy. Unless you had a barge tight on the stern, you should be able to spin your boat off just by backing the jib. With a bit of coordination you could even use a spring line to pull the stern forward along the dock so you'd need little if any clearance on the stern. silverback wrote: clearence requirements required to be clarified. Tight and I would elect the method for lee dock conditions. CM wrote in message oups.com... How do you sail off a dock when the wind is on the bow? [Assume an end-tie situation] 1 pt. |
Docking Situation Question #2
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Docking Situation Question #2
How Large?
"Bart Senior" .@. wrote in message ... That might not work in a larger yacht. You could always ring for a stewardess. "Scotty" wrote Push off from the bow, roll out jib, sail off, turn on AP and hoist main, grab drink from below. Scotty wrote . How do you sail off a dock when the wind is on the bow? [Assume an end-tie situation] 1 pt. |
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