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Capt. JG September 16th 06 07:28 PM

Docking Situation Question #2
 
You shouldn't have to be "fast" to sail away from a dock. You need to be
under control at all times. Fast usually gets you in touble.

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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

"Scotty" wrote

| 3 boat lengths? By the time you weigh anchor you'll be back
| crashing on the dock.


Not if your fast and not if you don't get in irons. The secret
is to break loose the anchor from the bottom only when the bow's
at an angle to the wind. That way your mainsail should sail you
away from the dock. It should be sheeted in about on the quarter.
If you use the jib too you have to make sure its full and not backed
before you break loose the anchor.

Cheers,
Ellen




Ellen MacArthur September 16th 06 10:23 PM

Docking Situation Question #2
 

"Capt. JG" wrote
| You don't need, nor should you use, an anchor to sail away from a dock.


Sez who?

Cheers,
Ellen



Jeff September 16th 06 10:54 PM

Docking Situation Question #2
 
Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote
| You don't need, nor should you use, an anchor to sail away from a dock.


Sez who?


You certainly don't need it for your boat.

I can understand using it for a 6 ton crab crusher. For that matter,
I'm not sure about my boat, especially if I had a lot of constraints.

On the other hand, I did it many times, perhaps hundreds, with boats
like a Rhodes 19. You just push it off and get going. Or you get
someone else to push the boom.

Ellen MacArthur September 16th 06 11:01 PM

Docking Situation Question #2
 

"Jeff" wrote
| You certainly don't need it for your boat.
|
| I can understand using it for a 6 ton crab crusher. For that matter,
| I'm not sure about my boat, especially if I had a lot of constraints.
|
| On the other hand, I did it many times, perhaps hundreds, with boats
| like a Rhodes 19. You just push it off and get going. Or you get
| someone else to push the boom.



I'd rather be safe than sorry. It's better not to put other boats at risk
because you cut things too close. It's not fun being embarrassed because
you ran into somebody's boat. Using an anchor to kedge off is tried and
true and professional. It's just about foolproof.

Cheers,
Ellen

silverback September 16th 06 11:08 PM

Docking Situation Question #2
 
clearence requirements required to be clarified.

Tight and I would elect the method for lee dock conditions.

CM

wrote in message
oups.com...
How do you sail off a dock when the wind is on
the bow? [Assume an end-tie situation] 1 pt.




silverback September 16th 06 11:11 PM

Docking Situation Question #2
 
IDIOT!

"Capt. JG" wrote in message
...
You don't need, nor should you use, an anchor to sail away from a dock.

--
"j" ganz @@
www.sailnow.com

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

wrote
| How do you sail off a dock when the wind is on
| the bow? [Assume an end-tie situation] 1 pt.


Attach the line from a small anchor to a cleat on the front of your
boat.
Row the anchor out with your dinghy. Drop the anchor three or four boat
lengths in front of your bow. Untie the dock lines and pull on the
anchor
line till your over the anchor. Weigh the anchor and off you go...

Cheers,
Ellen






Jeff September 16th 06 11:17 PM

Docking Situation Question #2
 
Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Jeff" wrote
| You certainly don't need it for your boat.
|
| I can understand using it for a 6 ton crab crusher. For that matter,
| I'm not sure about my boat, especially if I had a lot of constraints.
|
| On the other hand, I did it many times, perhaps hundreds, with boats
| like a Rhodes 19. You just push it off and get going. Or you get
| someone else to push the boom.



I'd rather be safe than sorry. It's better not to put other boats at risk
because you cut things too close. It's not fun being embarrassed because
you ran into somebody's boat. Using an anchor to kedge off is tried and
true and professional. It's just about foolproof.

Cheers,
Ellen


Good Grief, what a wimp! Tell me how professional you feel when the
club launch fouls on your anchor line while you're rowing back in the
dink. Sailing a dinghy or even a small keel boat off of a lee dock is
one of the basic maneuvers that you have to learn. If you have any
concerns, you are permitted to practice it a few times when the dock
is empty. Or even find an unused dock to practice on in different
conditions.

Casting off is a useful skill, worth learning in its own right. But
spending half an hour doing when someone else can just hop in the boat
and sail off, doesn't look too professional.

Jeff September 16th 06 11:29 PM

Docking Situation Question #2
 
Now that's just being wimpy. Unless you had a barge tight on the
stern, you should be able to spin your boat off just by backing the
jib. With a bit of coordination you could even use a spring line to
pull the stern forward along the dock so you'd need little if any
clearance on the stern.


silverback wrote:
clearence requirements required to be clarified.

Tight and I would elect the method for lee dock conditions.

CM

wrote in message
oups.com...
How do you sail off a dock when the wind is on
the bow? [Assume an end-tie situation] 1 pt.




Bart Senior September 17th 06 12:01 AM

Docking Situation Question #2
 
That might not work in a larger yacht.

You could always ring for a stewardess.

"Scotty" wrote
Push off from the bow, roll out jib, sail off, turn on AP
and hoist main, grab drink from below.

Scotty


wrote
.
How do you sail off a dock when the wind is on
the bow? [Assume an end-tie situation] 1 pt.




Bart Senior September 17th 06 12:03 AM

Docking Situation Question #2
 
That's the right answer for a different question.
Wrong for this question.

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote

wrote
| How do you sail off a dock when the wind is on
| the bow? [Assume an end-tie situation] 1 pt.


Attach the line from a small anchor to a cleat on the front of your
boat.
Row the anchor out with your dinghy. Drop the anchor three or four boat
lengths in front of your bow. Untie the dock lines and pull on the anchor
line till your over the anchor. Weigh the anchor and off you go...





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