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Ellen MacArthur September 14th 06 09:17 PM

My seamanship question #5
 

"Capt. JG" wrote
| Please let us know how many times you're going to repeat that statement...



When y'all stop being mean I'll stop saying it.

Cheers,
Ellen

Jeff September 14th 06 09:22 PM

My seamanship question #5
 
Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote
| Please let us know how many times you're going to repeat that statement...



When y'all stop being mean I'll stop saying it.

Most of us aren't mean. Its just Tough Love. Of course, there are a
few exceptions.

Jeff September 14th 06 09:46 PM

My seamanship question #5
 
Capt. JG wrote:
The demarcation line?

Yes - its often listed on charts as the "COLREGS DEMARCATION LINE"

Capt. JG September 14th 06 10:01 PM

My seamanship question #5
 
Yeah. I'm the mean one.

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"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Capt. JG" wrote | Please let us know how many
times you're going to repeat that statement...



When y'all stop being mean I'll stop saying it.

Most of us aren't mean. Its just Tough Love. Of course, there are a few
exceptions.




Capt. JG September 14th 06 10:01 PM

My seamanship question #5
 
Whew... thought there was another one. :-)

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"Jeff" wrote in message
...
Capt. JG wrote:
The demarcation line?

Yes - its often listed on charts as the "COLREGS DEMARCATION LINE"




Maxprop September 14th 06 11:05 PM

My seamanship question #5
 

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

A tall ship's sailing down a narrow channel. It has fair winds and most
of its sails up.
It's in international waters. It has a black cylinder displayed which
means it's C.B.D.
A Coast Guard inflatable pulls up along side. It hails the captain of the
tall ship and tells
him he's breaking the rules because sailboats can't show the black
cylinder. The captain
smirks and says he's using the motor too. The Coast Guard writes him a
ticket because he's
in violation of another rule. What other rule did he violate.


Mooning the coasties?

Max



Donal September 14th 06 11:50 PM

My seamanship question #5
 

"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
huge sections
of the coast and outlaying islands are outside the ColRegs line.



Sooooo ... your ColRegs are nothing to do with the "**International**
Regulations for the prevention of Collisions at Sea"????

Regards


Donal
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Donal September 14th 06 11:57 PM

My seamanship question #5
 

"Scotty" wrote in message
...

Did he have his inverted cone displayed?



People over here never fly an inverted cone. A few miles away, in France,
everybody flies it when they are under engine.

Do you use it in the States?



Regards


Donal
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Jeff September 15th 06 12:30 AM

My seamanship question #5
 
Donal wrote:
"Jeff" wrote in message
. ..
huge sections
of the coast and outlaying islands are outside the ColRegs line.



Sooooo ... your ColRegs are nothing to do with the "**International**
Regulations for the prevention of Collisions at Sea"????


Wrong, our ColRegs *are* the "Convention on the International
Regulations for Preventing Collisions at Sea," I assume identical to
yours. The US also exercised its prerogative to create a slightly
modified version for use in Inland Waters.

The standard government book lists the two on alternating pages so you
can see the differences. There are a number of changes, mostly
dealing with the special rules on the Western Rivers. Also, the
category of "Constrained by Draft" does not exist in the inland rules.
And, the sound signals are a bit different. The inverted cone is
not needed for motorsailers under 12 meters (which surprises Americans
abroad who have never heard of the rule), but the 7 meter/7 knots
sidelight exclusion does not exist in the Inland rules (which
surprises visitors to the US).

The Master's exam, required for anyone carrying passengers for hire,
includes a test on the rules, closed book, 90% required for passing.
Many of the question specify Inland or International, so we must learn
both to have a professional license. The vast majority of
recreational boaters have never read the ColRegs.

The ColRegs Demarcation line is drawn on many charts, and shows where
the Inland Rules take over from the International rules. Some sailing
areas of the country are largely Inland, like Long Island Sound, and
most of the Waterway south, other parts are largely ColRegs, like
Downeast Maine or Alaska. In other parts, like where I live, you
cross over the line whenever you take a short hop up or down the coast.

DSK September 15th 06 12:36 AM

My seamanship question #5
 
Donal wrote:
People over here never fly an inverted cone. A few miles away, in France,
everybody flies it when they are under engine.

Do you use it in the States?


Why yes we do. In fact there are a number of people who feel
that it is a symbol of much more than simply motor-sailing,
they are the inverted cone heads. I'm surprised you haven't
heard of them, for a while they had a TV show.

DSK



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