My seamanship question #5
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote
| First tell us where there is a narrow channel in international waters
| where you could be written up for anything by "The Coast Guard"


It's a hypothetical question but how's about Egmont Channel?

Cheers,
Ellen

My seamanship question #5
 

Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:32:42 -0400, "Ellen MacArthur"
wrote:


A tall ship's sailing down a narrow channel. It has fair winds and most of its sails up.
It's in international waters. It has a black cylinder displayed which means it's C.B.D.
A Coast Guard inflatable pulls up along side. It hails the captain of the tall ship and tells
him he's breaking the rules because sailboats can't show the black cylinder. The captain
smirks and says he's using the motor too. The Coast Guard writes him a ticket because he's
in violation of another rule. What other rule did he violate.


Cheers,
Ellen

First tell us where there is a narrow channel in international waters
where you could be written up for anything by "The Coast Guard"

CWM
Wow, you don't get around much, do you? Try reading the appendix at
the end of the US Nav Rule Book, or 33CFR80. While the protected
waters, like Casco Bay, Buzzards Bay, etc. are Inland, huge sections
of the coast and outlaying islands are outside the ColRegs line.

For example, all of Maine down to Cape Small is Intl, and that
includes the Kennebec all the way up to Bath. Harbors such as Block
Island ans Edgartown are Intl, and so on. Admittedly, most of the
navigable channels south from there are Inland, but there are still
plenty of Intl channels, such as all of Alaska.

Now whether a CG boat would actually try to give a ticket to a tall
ship, that's a different question.

My seamanship question #5
 

If his engine is engaged, he'd need the inverted cone. Did the CG give way
or run into him?

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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
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A tall ship's sailing down a narrow channel. It has fair winds and most
of its sails up.
It's in international waters. It has a black cylinder displayed which
means it's C.B.D.
A Coast Guard inflatable pulls up along side. It hails the captain of the
tall ship and tells
him he's breaking the rules because sailboats can't show the black
cylinder. The captain
smirks and says he's using the motor too. The Coast Guard writes him a
ticket because he's
in violation of another rule. What other rule did he violate.


Cheers,
Ellen

My seamanship question #5
 

Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 14:28:42 -0400, Jeff wrote:

Charlie Morgan wrote:
On Thu, 14 Sep 2006 13:32:42 -0400, "Ellen MacArthur"
wrote:


A tall ship's sailing down a narrow channel. It has fair winds and most of its sails up.
It's in international waters. It has a black cylinder displayed which means it's C.B.D.
A Coast Guard inflatable pulls up along side. It hails the captain of the tall ship and tells
him he's breaking the rules because sailboats can't show the black cylinder. The captain
smirks and says he's using the motor too. The Coast Guard writes him a ticket because he's
in violation of another rule. What other rule did he violate.


Cheers,
Ellen
First tell us where there is a narrow channel in international waters
where you could be written up for anything by "The Coast Guard"

CWM
Wow, you don't get around much, do you? Try reading the appendix at
the end of the US Nav Rule Book, or 33CFR80. While the protected
waters, like Casco Bay, Buzzards Bay, etc. are Inland, huge sections
of the coast and outlaying islands are outside the ColRegs line.

For example, all of Maine down to Cape Small is Intl, and that
includes the Kennebec all the way up to Bath. Harbors such as Block
Island ans Edgartown are Intl, and so on. Admittedly, most of the
navigable channels south from there are Inland, but there are still
plenty of Intl channels, such as all of Alaska.

Now whether a CG boat would actually try to give a ticket to a tall
ship, that's a different question.

My question was directed at Ellen. Whether you or I know where there
are narrow channels in International waters was not the purpose of the
question I asked.

CWM
Now that's mean!

But it would appear that Ellen knew the answer to your question.

My seamanship question #5
 

"Jeff" wrote
| Now that's mean!


Didn't I say y'all were mean? :-)

Cheers,
Ellen

My seamanship question #5
 

For example, all of Maine down to Cape Small is Intl, and that includes
the Kennebec all the way up to Bath. Harbors such as Block Island ans
Edgartown are Intl, and so on. Admittedly, most of the navigable
channels south from there are Inland, but there are still plenty of Intl
channels, such as all of Alaska.

Now whether a CG boat would actually try to give a ticket to a tall
ship, that's a different question.

So does that mean the US can't keep ships under dither flags out of
those areas because they are International?

My seamanship question #5
 

katy wrote:

For example, all of Maine down to Cape Small is Intl, and that
includes the Kennebec all the way up to Bath. Harbors such as Block
Island ans Edgartown are Intl, and so on. Admittedly, most of the
navigable channels south from there are Inland, but there are still
plenty of Intl channels, such as all of Alaska.

Now whether a CG boat would actually try to give a ticket to a tall
ship, that's a different question.

So does that mean the US can't keep ships under dither flags out of
those areas because they are International?
That line, called the "Colregs Line," merely shows the area where the
International Rules are replaced by the Inland Rules. It has nothing
to do with territorial waters and economic zones and all that stuff.

My seamanship question #5
 

Jeff wrote:
katy wrote:

For example, all of Maine down to Cape Small is Intl, and that
includes the Kennebec all the way up to Bath. Harbors such as Block
Island ans Edgartown are Intl, and so on. Admittedly, most of the
navigable channels south from there are Inland, but there are still
plenty of Intl channels, such as all of Alaska.

Now whether a CG boat would actually try to give a ticket to a tall
ship, that's a different question.

So does that mean the US can't keep ships under dither flags out of
those areas because they are International?
That line, called the "Colregs Line," merely shows the area where the
International Rules are replaced by the Inland Rules. It has nothing to
do with territorial waters and economic zones and all that stuff.

thanks....

My seamanship question #5
 

Please let us know how many times you're going to repeat that statement...

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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
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"Jeff" wrote
| Now that's mean!


Didn't I say y'all were mean? :-)

Cheers,
Ellen

My seamanship question #5
 

The demarcation line?

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"Jeff" wrote in message
...
katy wrote:

For example, all of Maine down to Cape Small is Intl, and that includes
the Kennebec all the way up to Bath. Harbors such as Block Island ans
Edgartown are Intl, and so on. Admittedly, most of the navigable
channels south from there are Inland, but there are still plenty of Intl
channels, such as all of Alaska.

Now whether a CG boat would actually try to give a ticket to a tall
ship, that's a different question.

So does that mean the US can't keep ships under dither flags out of those
areas because they are International?
That line, called the "Colregs Line," merely shows the area where the
International Rules are replaced by the Inland Rules. It has nothing to
do with territorial waters and economic zones and all that stuff.