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RogueIT September 13th 06 08:49 PM

Displacement Plus Ballest ?
 
When I see that a boat has a Displacement of 4550 and the ballast is
1900, should I think the overall weight of the boat is 4550 or 6450?
thanks
RogueIT


Capt. JG September 13th 06 08:57 PM

Displacement Plus Ballest ?
 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tonnage

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When I see that a boat has a Displacement of 4550 and the ballast is
1900, should I think the overall weight of the boat is 4550 or 6450?
thanks
RogueIT




Scotty September 13th 06 09:33 PM

Displacement Plus Ballest ?
 
4550 , the ballast is listed to give you an idea of
stability, or ''ballast to weight ratio''.

SBV





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When I see that a boat has a Displacement of 4550 and the

ballast is
1900, should I think the overall weight of the boat is

4550 or 6450?
thanks
RogueIT




Ellen MacArthur September 13th 06 09:35 PM

Displacement Plus Ballest ?
 

"RogueIT" wrote
| When I see that a boat has a Displacement of 4550 and the ballast is
| 1900, should I think the overall weight of the boat is 4550 or 6450?


You should think the overall weight is both added together. And, that's
probably on the light side because that's *empty* weight.


Cheers,
Ellen

RogueIT September 13th 06 09:40 PM

Displacement Plus Ballest ?
 
So displacement is the actual weight in pounds?
I quote from wikipedia
"Displacement is the actual total weight of the vessel." but I have
always tried to make things more complicated than they really are.

thanks,
RogueIT

Scotty wrote:
4550 , the ballast is listed to give you an idea of
stability, or ''ballast to weight ratio''.

SBV



Scotty September 13th 06 09:45 PM

Displacement Plus Ballest ?
 

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
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"RogueIT" wrote
| When I see that a boat has a Displacement of 4550 and

the ballast is
| 1900, should I think the overall weight of the boat is

4550 or 6450?


You should think the overall weight is both added

together. And, that's
probably on the light side because that's *empty* weight.



You should think again.

Scotty



Scotty September 13th 06 09:55 PM

Displacement Plus Ballest ?
 
Yup, the heavier the boat ,including the ballast, the more
water it''displaces''.



"RogueIT" wrote in message
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..
So displacement is the actual weight in pounds?
I quote from wikipedia
"Displacement is the actual total weight of the vessel."

but I have
always tried to make things more complicated than they

really are.

thanks,
RogueIT

Scotty wrote:
4550 , the ballast is listed to give you an idea of
stability, or ''ballast to weight ratio''.

SBV





Ellen MacArthur September 13th 06 09:59 PM

Displacement Plus Ballest ?
 

"Scotty" wrote

| You should think again.


Oh heck. I "screwed the pooch" again. I just don't know what I was thinking.
I know displacement includes the ballast. So I was thinking to add the two. But,
they're already added together. That's the ballast and the rest of the boat is
already added together. So you were right and I was wrong. Make you happy?
But, don't think we're even. I've been right much more often than you are....

Cheers,
Ellen

Thom Stewart September 14th 06 01:14 AM

Displacement Plus Ballast ?
 
Jon?

You brought a third term into the question. The Tonnage term only
confuses the issue farther.

Jon, read the Subject Header; "Displacement Plus Ballast?" You are
buying a new Boat, and have a CG Captains Title. To get it Yacht
Registered, it will have to List its displacement weight.

Answer the question that was asked. Does Total Displacement Weight
Include keel weight or not. It sounds like a simple question, why must
"Tunnage" enter the discuss? Are you going to carry cargo in you
"Saber"? Was it designed to cargo carrying capabilities?

I do think, and I may be wrong, but once a boat is designed, the
calculated weight of the water that it displaces is what is used for
Documentation. That would include the keel as a displacement weight of
water and the weight of the engine as a displacement of the weight of
water as well as all fittings rudders, etc.

That is displacement "Weight", sometimes (Often) refer to a Volume.

That would mean the ballast weight would be included in Displacement
Weight.

Now, Rogue, this is an old man explanation and it may have edges that
can be pick at but IT HAS WORKED FOR ME,




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Scotty September 14th 06 01:22 AM

Displacement Plus Ballest ?
 

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
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"Scotty" wrote

| You should think again.


Oh heck. I "screwed the pooch" again. I just don't

know what I was thinking.
I know displacement includes the ballast. So I was

thinking to add the two. But,
they're already added together. That's the ballast and the

rest of the boat is
already added together. So you were right and I was wrong.

Make you happy?

No, but it does make me feel superior. Thanks.


But, don't think we're even. I've been right much more

often than you are....


You've also been wrong more times than me.

Scotty




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