My seamanship question #3
 

Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Jeff" wrote
| The Colregs give no particular guidance on this.


Wrong Jeff! There's definitely at least one rule covering it.

Cheers,
Ellen

Don't kill innocent chilfren trying to learn how to sail?

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DSK wrote:
"Scotty" wrote
| The Optimist Pram is at the bottom of the pecking order,
2nd
| to last, just above Yellow Coronado 27'.



"Ellen MacArthur" wrote
Can't you say something just once that makes sense?


Makes perfect sense to anybody that knows the ASA anti-collision rules.



Scotty wrote:
To you? Prolly knot.


Aww, give her a break. At least she apologized for dissing Ol' Thom,
sort of.

DSK


Made sense to me, too...knew exactly where he was coming from.

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Ellen MacArthur wrote:
"Jeff" wrote
| The Colregs give no particular guidance on this.


Wrong Jeff! There's definitely at least one rule covering it.

Cheers,
Ellen
Well, of course they both acted to avoid the collision, but whether to
turn left or right is not in the rules. The Opti was standon, but the
way you told it the Hobie bore off so the Opti was free to do
whatever. You could claim that the Opti should have held its course,
but if that's what you were looking for you should have worded it
differently.

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Since there's no indication of a collision from the text, I'd agree. There's
nothing wrong or improper in changing course as long as you don't make the
situation worse.

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"Jeff" wrote in message
...
Ellen MacArthur wrote:
You go sailing (not racing) in an Optimist pram. You're going north.
The east wind is right on your starboard beam.
Up ahead you see a Hobie Cat 14 sailing fast flying a hull and he's
headed right at your bow (he's going south). He changes course to the
west and you change course to the east. Did you act the way the colregs
tell you to?

Cheers,
Ellen

The Colregs give no particular guidance on this.

My seamanship question #3
 

"DSK" wrote in message
...
"Scotty" wrote
| The Optimist Pram is at the bottom of the pecking
order,
2nd
| to last, just above Yellow Coronado 27'.



"Ellen MacArthur" wrote
Can't you say something just once that makes sense?


Makes perfect sense to anybody that knows the ASA
anti-collision rules.



Scotty wrote:
To you? Prolly knot.


Aww, give her a break. At least she apologized for dissing
Ol' Thom, sort of.


This is as nice as I can be.

SBV

My seamanship question #3
 

You were on starboard tack and had right of way. You only needed to change
your course if you thouht a collision was imminent.

"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in message
reenews.net...

You go sailing (not racing) in an Optimist pram. You're going north.
The east wind is
right on your starboard beam.
Up ahead you see a Hobie Cat 14 sailing fast flying a hull and he's
headed right at
your bow (he's going south). He changes course to the west and you change
course to the
east.
Did you act the way the colregs tell you to?

Cheers,
Ellen

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"Jeff" wrote
| You could claim that the Opti should have held its course,
| but if that's what you were looking for you should have worded it
| differently.

I do claim the Optimist should have remained on course. The sailing rules
require it to stay on course. That's what stand on means. It means to stay on
the same course and speed. It was on starboard tack.
My wording was as clear as I could make it. It was clear enough for any
sensible person. You can nitpik anything if you've a mind to...

Cheers,
Ellen

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"Capt. JG" wrote
| Since there's no indication of a collision from the text, I'd agree. There's
| nothing wrong or improper in changing course as long as you don't make the
| situation worse.

There's definitely something wrong with the Optimist changing course. According
to the sailing rules it's required to hold to its course. It's not supposed to change
course unless the Hobie Cat doesn't and a collision is likely or even possible.
How can you say there's no incidation of a collision from the text? I said the
Hobie Cat was heading straight for the bow of the Optimist.
Both sailboats turning is following the motor boat rule and sailboats are supposed
to follow the sailing rules.

Cheers,
Ellen

|
| --
| "j" ganz @@
| www.sailnow.com
|
| "Jeff" wrote in message
| ...
| Ellen MacArthur wrote:
| You go sailing (not racing) in an Optimist pram. You're going north.
| The east wind is right on your starboard beam.
| Up ahead you see a Hobie Cat 14 sailing fast flying a hull and he's
| headed right at your bow (he's going south). He changes course to the
| west and you change course to the east. Did you act the way the colregs
| tell you to?
|
| Cheers,
| Ellen
|
| The Colregs give no particular guidance on this.
|
|

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"Edgar" wrote
| You were on starboard tack and had right of way. You only needed to change
| your course if you thouht a collision was imminent.



Bingo! Somebody give Edgar a prize for clear thinking....

Cheers,
Ellen

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"Ellen MacArthur" wrote in
message
reenews.ne
t...

"Capt. JG" wrote
| Since there's no indication of a collision from the
text, I'd agree. There's
| nothing wrong or improper in changing course as long as
you don't make the
| situation worse.

There's definitely something wrong with the Optimist
changing course. According
to the sailing rules it's required to hold to its course.


Stand on vessel is assureadly allowed to alter course if it
gives the burdened vessel more room.




How can you say there's no incidation of a collision
from the text? I said the
Hobie Cat was heading straight for the bow of the
Optimist.


''Heading straight for the bow'' does not necessarily mean a
collision is immanent.



Both sailboats turning is following the motor boat
rule and sailboats are supposed
to follow the sailing rules.



Are you getting this out of the 'Sailing For Dummies' book?

Keep reading!

Scotty