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"Joe" wrote in message
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Phoney gas hikes...Hey do you think over 300 platforms and drilling
rigs looking like this after Katrina, and Rita might have had something
to do with it?

Perhaps, but what controls gasoline prices at the pumps has less to do with
supply and demand than with speculation in the petroleum futures market.
When Katrina struck the south coastal states and wrecked some oil rigs, we
already had supplies that could sustain the current consumption levels for
well over three months. If prices had risen 15 cents or so--which would
have been appropriate--the supply reserves would have been sufficient for a
few months more. By then the importation levels from the Middle East (where
we only buy about 10% of our crude) and from South America (where we buy
substantially more) could have easily offset the supply losses due to
Katrina (less than 1% of our overall crude supply). BUT, the speculators
figured that Katrina gave them a golden opportunity to realize some serious
money on the futures market, and they were right. Of course this was all at
the expense of the US consumer. Big oil reaped monster profits while the
middle and lower classes suffered. And our 'gummint' did nothing to curb
the process; rather some powerful people no doubt realized some substantial
profits as well. I don't want to mention any names, but one such investor's
initials are George W. Bush.

The great American dream come true.

Max

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Did you see the oil company profits margins, Joe? Does THAT look like
the result of Katrina or just an excuse to hike prices almost 30%
beyond what was required?

This is most disturbing. Bubbles and I are in agreement on a
political/economic issue.

What's next? Dogs and cats living together? Gays dating straights? New
England states becoming 'red.'

Max

Capt. Rob wrote:
Let's address the winning little bitch boys rant.

Is being rich a bad thing?

Do you think he was right in attacking the President for attending
the
memorial services at ground zero, the pentagon and in that field in
PA?

It's his job to attend those events. You missed the entire point of the
"rant." Bush...and few others with the power to make things happen, has
done nothing to rebuild the towers.

What has Hillery, your senator done to speed up the process?
She was at the "photo op " too. She's right there in NYC.

Nothing thats what, It's none of her bussiness, let the owners who are
paying for it do it how they feel fit. You welfare bums will never
understand free enterprise and will always expect the govt to carry
your ass and tell you how to do everything.

Is it Presidents Bush fault that 5yrs...5yrs...5yrs later no new
super
structure has been buildt?

Yes. It. Is.

NO. IT. IS.NOT

Is this process slower than the normal
process for spending 800+ million dollars building multi sky scrapers?

Of course it is. This was supposed to be on the fast track and Bush
himself stated that the towers would go back up.

it is fast track, but seein how you no nothing about the process that
means nothing to you. Did you know the new Freedom towers will meet
LEED's gold standard for green buildings?

The Freedom Tower, World Trade Center Transportation Hub, Memorial and
Memorial Museum will be powered by renewable energy?

If you have ever been to Ground Zero you would know the Freedom Tower,
the World Trade Center Transportation Hub and the Memorial, "Reflecting
Absence", are currently all under construction at the site.

Santiago Calatrava designed one of the most stunning building I've
ever seen for your new transportation center:

http://www.lowermanhattan.info/image..._opener_lg.jpg

He could have done
many things to help the process along. He's the president of the united
states and he can get things done.

The complexity of the rebuild is massive. To me it looks like the
people paying for it, and doing it, are doing a fine job.

Your an idiot, perhaps Bush should have chopped off the hands of the
designer who did not design fast enough, the builder that did not spend
his money fast enough. You putz, it's a private enterprize to re-build,
this is not a govt building the president has nothing to do with it.

I like the new designs, they are well thought out and designed by one
of the worlds leading designers. Had you had your way, some cardboard
box would be standing.

If President Bush was not at ground zero for the "Photo Opp" you
and
bubbles would be outraged pointing to another left wingers little bitch

boy's rant.

Again, I guess you missed the point.

What that... the MSNBC bitch called it a photo opp....no I did not miss
that...sorry.

You and Rob jump on the band wagons of the lowest

A guy with opinions that differ from yours, who actually lost friends
on 9/11 has a right to his "bandwagon." But most of us true Americans,
who could care less about political agendas, walked away from Bush when
he lied for his phone war. No WMDs.

Did he yell on the telephone? What phone war?

You want to make a change in the way things are going you need to
find a better person with answers and solutions.

Bush has done tremendous damage. It's going to take a lot to
repair...more than one person.

Voting in Iraq, turning over a trained army to the elected leader of
Iraq, a mass murder is on trial in Iraq, Children going to schools in
Afganastan, girls for the first time in many decades, no more attacks
in the USA and we know many were foiled, Gas prices plunging after the
largest disaster in the oilfield ever, and a busted alaska pipeline. I
hear gas will be under 2.00 a gallon by Thanksgiving.

All you have to offer

Many of us offered our votes against Bush from day one. Today nearly
70% of the country agrees. To late I'm afraid. Oh, and I don't always
vote democrat, Joe. Not even close.

Seems loser's are always a little to late to make any difference...

I'm not a republican, never have been BTW.

Joe

RB
35s5
NY

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
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Let's address the winning little bitch boys rant.

Is being rich a bad thing?

Oh yes, it's a terrible thing. You should send all your money to me in
order to assuage your guilt.

Max

DSK wrote:
Maxprop wrote:
I believe it's something similar to having a sore elbow. If you smash your
big toe with a hammer, you'll no doubt forget all about your sore elbow.

That's a great explanation. Maybe you should recommend it to
the Republican National Committee for this fall's campaign.

Seriously, don't ask me--I'd never vote for GWB again for dogcatcher.

I wouldn't either. The difference is, I didn't vote for him
the first time around.

So, you're now planning to vote for Hillary in 2008?

BINGO!

Vote for the best....what will the dems and liberal offer? What did
they offer?
Only reason I voted for Bush was because Kerry was running against him.

You dems, liberals, and rob just keep bitching....do nothing to find
an alternative to hillery to support.... and them Republicans can
expect a victory in 2008 no matter who runs against her.

Like kerry... some people will stand outside the fence, throwing any
honor they have over that fence just to dis- the man making the
decisions. Thats OK when people vote they will do as they did before
and vote for the person they think will deal with the issues at hand in
the best way.

Jon keep screaming to vote for change....but hasent produced anyone
who has a good ideal how to change things or shown support for that
person, neither has Rob.

All you're doing is bitching and moaning.

I would not vote for Bush again either, he failed on many issues, but
he's still better than Kerry. He will be in office until 2008 when I
have faith John McCain will become our next president. Until then I
will focus on better local leaders like Kinky our next Gov.

http://www.kinkyfriedman.com

What are you going to do besides pitch a bitch as usual?

Joe

DSK

Maxprop wrote:
"Joe" wrote in message
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Phoney gas hikes...Hey do you think over 300 platforms and drilling
rigs looking like this after Katrina, and Rita might have had something
to do with it?

Perhaps, but what controls gasoline prices at the pumps has less to do with
supply and demand than with speculation in the petroleum futures market.
When Katrina struck the south coastal states and wrecked some oil rigs, we
already had supplies that could sustain the current consumption levels for
well over three months. If prices had risen 15 cents or so--which would
have been appropriate--the supply reserves would have been sufficient for a
few months more. By then the importation levels from the Middle East (where
we only buy about 10% of our crude) and from South America (where we buy
substantially more) could have easily offset the supply losses due to
Katrina (less than 1% of our overall crude supply). BUT, the speculators
figured that Katrina gave them a golden opportunity to realize some serious
money on the futures market, and they were right. Of course this was all at
the expense of the US consumer. Big oil reaped monster profits while the
middle and lower classes suffered. And our 'gummint' did nothing to curb
the process; rather some powerful people no doubt realized some substantial
profits as well. I don't want to mention any names, but one such investor's
initials are George W. Bush.

The great American dream come true.

Investors invest to make profits....right? The Bush family was pushing
barges when the oil field was flat on it's face in the late 80's and
90's, what they should sell before they make a profit again?

How much of that profit will be re-invested in exploration (like the
biggest find in decades in the Gulf a few weeks ago) which is great for
Houston. I saw the oil filed go to **** in the early 90 and the rest of
the nation cared less about Houston. Did you know Chevron will put out
about 5 billion dollars to get that oil they just discovered to shore?

Record profits in oil are good for Texas. You should see all the ads
for people wanted in the oil patch..it's a regular boom! Yeeee haaaa!
Black Gold, Texas Tea!

And BTW we are still paying much much less then most or the world for
our gasoline.

Joe

Max

Nutsy,

Joe, Americans are dying daily in terrorist attacks. An ALL TIME
HIGH. Sad that you only care about YOUR life HERE, but some people
actually think beyond that.
Grow up, Joe.

ALL TIME HIGH???? Nutsy, have you forgotten WW1 & WW2, Korea, Viet Nam?

I too hate Bush's Admin. There are enough Errors for real. When you lie
you just confirm their attitude about you;

Nutsy; "Attitude is the Minds paint brush, it can color any situation"
Stop giving the Right wingers the Paint.

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

You need to get in the right century. There were no WMDs at the time of the
second gulf war. We claimed that he had them or in the case of nukes was
about to have them. That was total bs. We went to war for the wrong reasons,
a war of choice rather than necessity. Reminds me of our reasons for going
to Vietnam.

Bushco claimed that there was a relationship between him and bin Laden's
followers. Completely untrue, according to every credible source then and
now.

Our trains, chemical plants to name just two things and there are many
others including *our embassys* are completely vulnerable. Now we're relying
on the Syrians to protect us????

Bushco and the right wingnuts sure are spending the billions wisely... NOT.

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"Joe" wrote in message
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Capt. Rob wrote:
Blaming Bush that a massive private construction project is not
finished in 5 years.

And Rob daddy calls all excited

Not excited.. It's shame for a country and it's leaders who have lied
and committed atrocities. Joe, I find it so very depressing that you
can't see this president for what he is.
Joe, it's a disaster. You were lied to. No WMD's.

No WMD's hummm I hear Saddam is on trial TODAY for murdering 180,000
mostly with chemical weapons..Check it out at the Brit site:

news.bbc.co.uk/.../world/middle_east/4875678.stm'

See all the dead women and children?

No real effort to
catch Bin Laden. The free distruction of Bin Ladin's greatest enemy.
Attempts to divide America successful. Attempts to generate fear
successful. No protection against phoney gas hikes,

Phoney gas hikes...Hey do you think over 300 platforms and drilling
rigs looking like this after Katrina, and Rita might have had something
to do with it?
http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a3...ormKatrina.jpg

How about the massave demand in China...is that Bush's doing to?

and lie after lie
after lie along with the USA taking part in the torture of human
beings. The complete breakdown of foreign relations.

http://ruste.org/images/coalition_large.gif

Terrorism at an
ALL TIME HIGH.

Not in America...No attack in 5 yrs, not even one of our Navy ships
have been attacked
http://www.terrorism-victims.org/ter.../cole-hole.jpg

Been to Europe lately? We're an international joke.

Bob's Hero:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/olmedia/435000...chirac-150.jpg

YOUR president Bush. At this point most of the country now gets it. But
don't worry. Scotty's on your side.

Yeah I can see how many seat thge republicans are not going to loose
because of people like you, you are the best campain tool the
Republicans will ever have...way to go bob!

Joe

RB
35s5
NY

US soldiers are dying on the lines in Afg. and Iraq on a daily basis. We're
loosing it in Afg also it seems. Things are getting worse there.

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www.sailnow.com

"Thom Stewart" wrote in message
...
Nutsy,

Joe, Americans are dying daily in terrorist attacks. An ALL TIME
HIGH. Sad that you only care about YOUR life HERE, but some people
actually think beyond that.
Grow up, Joe.

ALL TIME HIGH???? Nutsy, have you forgotten WW1 & WW2, Korea, Viet Nam?

I too hate Bush's Admin. There are enough Errors for real. When you lie
you just confirm their attitude about you;

Nutsy; "Attitude is the Minds paint brush, it can color any situation"
Stop giving the Right wingers the Paint.

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage

http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ILLDRINKTOTHAT

Joe, I haven't called you names, and if you do that, you pretty much end the
discussion. If that's your intent, fine with me. But, I won't respond beyond
this email to out of control anger as shown in the lead in to your comments.
A debate is one thing, but that doesn't get to include personal attacks.

"Joe" wrote in message
oups.com...

Capt. JG wrote:

Let's address the winning little bitch boys rant.

Do you think he was right in attacking the President for attending the
memorial services at ground zero, the pentagon and in that field in PA?

Attending? No. Some of what he said, talking about fighting in Iraq as it
relates to terrorism was completely wrong and obviously political.

Is it Presidents Bush fault that 5yrs...5yrs...5yrs later no new super
structure has been buildt? Is this process slower than the normal
process for spending 800+ million dollars building multi sky scrapers?

Neither his fault nor probably his doing. This is the result of the rest of
various arms of gov't and private sectors doing what they do best. Nothing.

If President Bush was not at ground zero for the "Photo Opp" you and
bubbles would be outraged pointing to another left wingers little bitch
boy's rant.

Don't include me with Rob. I would be outraged if he didn't show up.

You and Rob jump on the band wagons of the lowest usless lying
*******s on the internet and you wonder why more people vote for people
like Bush than the people you so enthusitically support.

Which ones? I don't believe that Oberlann said anything that was untrue. If
so, please calm down and point it out. Please support yourself with facts
not rants.

You want to make a change in the way things are going you need to
find a better person with answers and solutions. All you have to offer
is a pack of whining little bitches like the MSNBC reporter and Sen.
Ketch-up the momma boy metal tossing loser.

?? This is clearly an angry rant. These people are commentators. Talking
heads. You can agree or disagree.