Read the article. What's the lie you allege and where was it reported?


Ummm that would be the one where USGOVCo repeatedly denied that they
had secret overseas prisons.

Dave scribbled thusly:
I ask you again:

Where were these alleged denials reported?


Dave I can't believe you sometimes... are you really
isolated? Everybody from Rumsfeld & Rice on down have denied
torturing prisoners, denied prisoner overflights, denied
using secret holding facilities overseas, denied "extreme
rendition" etc etc. For years it's been a standard tactic of
the further right-wing that reports of same were the
traitorous libby-rull media trying to undermine the Bush
Administration and coddle terrorism.

Did you miss all that, or do you practice double-think on
such a grand scale that you claim it never happened?

Come to think of it, when our Secretary of State is shown a
short video clip of herself making statements, and then
immediately afterwards claims "I never said that" what
should we expect?


OzOne wrote:
You don't read much do you?

Here are just a few articles.
http://www.buzztracker.org/2005/11/03/Washington.html


yuck, more bloggers.

DSK

Dave wrote:
Same question to you, Doug. Where are these alleged denials reported?

Let's see... Channel 2, 3, 4, 7, 9, 11, and at least two
dozen more cable news shows. Radio: all over the dial.
Newspapers: all three in our area (two of which are strongly
pro-Bush) plus the national McNews plus newpapers from every
metro area I've been in over the past 3 years.

Let me ask you the opposite question: When did President
Bush... or *any* member of his Cabinet or staff... say to
reporters from *any* media: "Yes, we have flown prisoners
overseas to be tortured outside the U.S. and yes, we are
using secret prison facilities overseas including some
former KGB strongholds."

Can you point me to a SINGLE quote of that nature?

Regards
Doug King

Dave wrote:
Wrong question, Doug.

No it isn't.


... Oz alleges the administration said there were no such
prisons.

He's right.


... That's implicit in his use of the term "lie." But claiming there
were no such prisons is not the same as not confirming that there are such
prisons.


OK, then since there have been reports about "extreme
rendition" & secret prisoner overflights (although not
secret from the civil air authorities of the countries we
were overflying... isn't that kinda dumb, like telling the
Russians when & where we're about to bomb Viet Nam?) &
overseas holding & torture facilities, the whole nine yards.

Are you saying that NOT ONE question has EVER been asked of
the administration on these topics? Are you saying the when
such a question was asked, it was answered in the
affirmative? Are you saying that such questions have always
& uniformly answered "I can neither confirm nor deny
anything related to that subject"?


I'm not asking for some impressionistic fairy tale you've dreamed up based
on your recollection of a mosaic of TV stories you've heard in the past.

Good, 'cuz I don't watch TV very much.

OTOH I do actually PAY ATTENTION and I'm not interested in
dreaming up some bizarro excuses based on partisan extremism.


.... I'm
asking for a specific report of a denial.

Thereby totally and completely losing the forest while
hunting for a tree.

Meanwhile, you answer my question and I'll answer yours. I
asked first!

DSK

DSK wrote:
Dave wrote:



.... I'm
asking for a specific report of a denial.

Thereby totally and completely losing the forest while
hunting for a tree.

You mean the liberal forest of fantasy.?

I'd like to see a valid denial myself.

Maybe it will be found published with the bank account numbers being
watch for suspected terriorist funding activities. Or this weeks
detailed plans for hunting Ossama.

Joe

Meanwhile, you answer my question and I'll answer yours. I
asked first!

DSK

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Dave wrote:
On Thu, 07 Sep 2006 08:11:20 -0400, DSK said:

Where were these alleged denials reported?


Dave I can't believe you sometimes... are you really
isolated? Everybody from Rumsfeld & Rice on down have denied
...
using secret holding facilities overseas,

Same question to you, Doug. Where are these alleged denials reported? Please
give me something specific, not a ton of articles like those Oz supplied,
which say things like the administration had no comment.

It would be a whole lot easier if Condi would just give Bush a
blowjob. Then we could impeach him.


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Dave wrote:
On 7 Sep 2006 11:11:53 -0700, lid (Jonathan Ganz) said:

It would be a whole lot easier if

You wann jump in and help Oz and Doug find that illusive report Jon? They
seem to be having a bit of difficulty in their search.

Why should I. I gave everyone a solution. If it was ok for Clinton,
why isn't it ok for Bush. Condi probably gives good blowjobs.


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