"Ellen MacArthur" said:
Does tugboat talk really belong in a sailing news group?

If it bothers you, I'll use shorter simpler words

..... Do sailboats
really need batteries? Mine does just fine with no battery.


Does your boat have lights? Instruments? Windlass? Pumps?
Refrigeration? An engine?

The technology of electricity is one of the cornerstones of
what is sometimes called Western civilization. If you don't
need it, that's fine. But are you sure of your ground in
criticising others for having it?

Dave wrote:
Most of us have something bigger than a sailing dink, and don't like to hand
start the diesel with a crank except in emergencies.

Starting your diesel with your crank? Now *that's* manly!!
Are you trying to impress Ellen here?!?

DSK

DSK wrote:
"Ellen MacArthur" said:
Does tugboat talk really belong in a sailing news group?

If it bothers you, I'll use shorter simpler words

..... Do sailboats
really need batteries? Mine does just fine with no battery.


Does your boat have lights? Instruments? Windlass? Pumps?
Refrigeration? An engine?

The technology of electricity is one of the cornerstones of
what is sometimes called Western civilization. If you don't
need it, that's fine. But are you sure of your ground in
criticising others for having it?

Dave wrote:
Most of us have something bigger than a sailing dink, and don't like to hand
start the diesel with a crank except in emergencies.

Starting your diesel with your crank? Now *that's* manly!!
Are you trying to impress Ellen here?!?

DSK

Whats so manly?

My 12 hp Lister is hand cranked all the time. Has petxoxks that
reklease the pressure, get her rolling and hit a trigger and she off
and running.

Joe
Your eyes are wild, your face is pale,--
This is no night for ships to sail!
The hungry wind is moaning low,
The storm is up--you shall not go!

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Whats so manly?


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Shame on you, Gilly. (blush)

Cheers,
Ellen

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Whats so manly?

My 12 hp Lister is hand cranked all the time. Has
petxoxks that
reklease the pressure, get her rolling and hit a trigger
and she off
and running.

BFD, I hand crank my Cat 3406...in the winter!

Scotty

"DSK" wrote
| Does your boat have lights? Instruments? Windlass? Pumps?
| Refrigeration? An engine?

No, no, no, no, no, no. It has a compass if you call that an instrument.

| The technology of electricity is one of the cornerstones of
| what is sometimes called Western civilization. If you don't
| need it, that's fine. But are you sure of your ground in
| criticising others for having it?

I guess it's nice on BIG sailboats but I still think it's not necessary and it
seems to take away from time spent sailing. Are sailboats supposed to hold
all of western civilization? I've got a house for all that stuff.

Cheers,
Ellen

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Are sailboats supposed to hold
all of western civilization? I've got a house for all that stuff.


Touche!

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Are sailboats supposed to hold
all of western civilization? I've got a house for all
that stuff.


Touchy!

and bitchy, too.


SBV

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Are sailboats supposed to hold
all of western civilization?


No, just the stuff that makes sailing more
enjoyable....including the kitchen sink.




I've got a house for all that stuff.

Is that were you 'hustle and bustle'?

SV

| Does your boat have lights? Instruments? Windlass? Pumps?
| Refrigeration? An engine?

Ellen MacArthur wrote:
No, no, no, no, no, no. It has a compass if you call that an instrument.


Sure.
A good compass is a great instrument.

Since your boat does have an enclosing deck & cabin you
should consider getting an electric automatic bilge pump.
It's far better to have one & not need it, than to need it
and not have it.


| ..... If you don't
| need it, that's fine. But are you sure of your ground in
| criticising others for having it?

I guess it's nice on BIG sailboats but I still think it's not necessary

Of course it's not *necessary*.


.... and it
seems to take away from time spent sailing.

That depends very much on the person. Some get distracted
and are more gadgeteers than sailors. Others keep it in
perspective and use available technology to make their
sailing & cruising better.


.... Are sailboats supposed to hold
all of western civilization? I've got a house for all that stuff.


Your house isn't the culmination of a long tradition
starting with primordial dugouts, triremes, Viking
longships, galleons, clipper ships, and racing cutters.

"Houses are merely vessels of a different kind, so firmly
aground that they cannot ever get unstuck and so poorly
constructed that they couldn't remain afloat if they did."
-Arthur Ransome

DSK