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Capt. Rob August 25th 06 06:43 PM

No Way, Joe
 
RedClouds hull speed is much faster than the 35s5. Simple Logic.



So then my boat must be faster than a J29, right?

Joe, just slink away quietly. We all like your slow boat, really, we
do.



RB
35s5
NY


Joe August 25th 06 06:58 PM

No Way, Joe
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
RedClouds hull speed is much faster than the 35s5. Simple Logic.



So then my boat must be faster than a J29, right?

right! But Only if it can leave the J29 behind, like RedCloud would
leave your 35s5 way behind, in-fact over the horizon behind in no time
at all. Then it would indeed be faster.

It's OK Rob, your boat is nice for a real tender flat water day
boat...really.

Joe


Capt. Rob August 25th 06 07:05 PM

No Way, Joe
 
So then my boat must be faster than a J29, right?

right! But Only if it can leave the J29 behind


Wrong, Joe. A 35s5 is slower than a J29. And a J29 would clobber your
boat even worse then my 35s5.
It's starting to seem unlikely you are any kind of captain, or at least
you know very little of the basics regarding sailboats.
Redcloud could beat John Cairn's Catalina 28 in most conditions...I
think! But that's about it.



RB
35s5
NY


Joe August 25th 06 07:05 PM

No Way, Joe
 

Charlie Morgan wrote:
On 25 Aug 2006 10:11:22 -0700, "Joe" wrote:


Capt. Rob wrote:
Joe, shape is only part of the formula. Weight, LWL and Sail area are
among many factors.
Indeed, that why I said "your 35s5 would fall off behind the
horizon in no time."



Joe, our 35s5 has a higher SA/D than your boat, and a faster DISP to
LWL ratio and less wetted surface for her length as well.
Feel free to post the specs of your boat.


My boats faster than your boat Rob, thats all you need to know.

Joe.


Yeah, it's rusting faster!


I doubt it. I'm a world class expert on rust prevention. I have a Phd
in rustoligy.

I'm quite sure Rob zincs are boiling, his swedges are swelling and the
rod rigging is cracking, the lifelines are streached out, the wiring is
corroded, and his keel bolts are settleing in and starting to crush and
grind and weaken the glass. Not to mention the blisters, core rotting,
spider cracking of the gel coat, crazing of the big gull wing windows,
and slack in his R&P steering.

Joe

CWM



Capt. Rob August 25th 06 07:17 PM

No Way, Joe
 

I doubt it. I'm a world class expert on rust prevention.



The above is a yet another good reason to own a faster glass boat of
course. I had my floorboards up yesterday for a cleaning and found all
keelbolts as new.



RB
35s5
NY


Bob Crantz August 25th 06 08:07 PM

No Way, Joe
 

"Charlie Morgan" wrote in message
...

My boats faster than your boat Rob, thats all you need to know.

Joe.


Yeah, it's rusting faster!


Bwahahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!! !!!!!!!!!!!!



Thom Stewart August 25th 06 08:43 PM

No Way, Joe
 
Nutsy,

Cripes!! Don't you realize what Joe is saying. His boat is faster than
your's. He has that big engine which makes his boat faster than your's.
When he is motorsailing he is FASTER THAN YOUR BOAT. Even is you would
motor sail at full throttle you wouldn't be as fast as his "Tin Can"

He is faster! You seem to be the only person that doesn't understand it.
He isn't Lying; he is laughing! Wise Up!

Sorry Joe, but I'm tired of reading his stupid replies. He is without a
Clue. You've had him on the "HOOK" long enough. Reel him in, unhook him
and throw him back. He's not a keeper.




http://community.webtv.net/tassail/ThomPage


Joe August 25th 06 11:14 PM

No Way, Joe
 

Capt. Rob wrote:
So then my boat must be faster than a J29, right?


right! But Only if it can leave the J29 behind


Wrong, Joe. A 35s5 is slower than a J29. And a J29 would clobber your
boat even worse then my 35s5.


Wrong, put Redcloud and a J29 and a 35s5 in the middle of the Gulf of
mexico, toss in 28 kt winds and 12 ft seas. I would cruise at 9 kts
steady without engine and both the J & 35s5 would be in survival mode.
You would be douched more than a lipton tea bag on a plantation porch.
You be about as fast and graceful as a grey hound on ice.

It's starting to seem unlikely you are any kind of captain, or at least
you know very little of the basics regarding sailboats.


USMM masters # 607529....look it up, thats with over 11 yrs underway
bubbles. 7 as Captain & Master. then add 10 yrs living on my own vessel
RedCloud.

Redcloud could beat John Cairn's Catalina 28 in most conditions...I
think! But that's about it.


Your boat is slower than RedCloud Rob. No if's, ands, or but's about
it.
De Vries builds the sleekest fastest steel hulls on earth. Very high
quaility.

Oh and BTW my Helm is much nicer than yours, it's hand made by one of
the finest craftsman on earth. Even has a lucky charm inside her.

And I bet the coin's under both my mast's are worth more than the coins
under your SINGLE mast.(if you have one)....... that is smaller than my
mizzen BTW.

Joe



RB
35s5
NY



DSK August 25th 06 11:31 PM

No Way, Joe
 
Joe wrote:
Wrong, put Redcloud and a J29 and a 35s5 in the middle of the Gulf of
mexico, toss in 28 kt winds and 12 ft seas. I would cruise at 9 kts
steady without engine and both the J & 35s5 would be in survival mode.


The Benny maybe, but for the J-29 it greatly depends on who
is sailing it, and the course you want to take. Anywhere
below a close reach, a decent crew can get 8 ~ 12 knots
pretty easily... heck if going downwind, I'd be using the
spinnaker and going 15.

It's called "fun."

A well equipped and properly sailed J-29 should be shifting
into 'survival mode' until somehwere over 40 knots...
depending on the sea state, of course. It's not a great boat
for dealing with big breaking waves.

DSK


John Cairns August 26th 06 12:15 AM

No Way, Joe
 

"Capt. Rob" wrote in message
oups.com...
So then my boat must be faster than a J29, right?


right! But Only if it can leave the J29 behind


Wrong, Joe. A 35s5 is slower than a J29. And a J29 would clobber your
boat even worse then my 35s5.
It's starting to seem unlikely you are any kind of captain, or at least
you know very little of the basics regarding sailboats.
Redcloud could beat John Cairn's Catalina 28 in most conditions...I
think! But that's about it.



RB
35s5
NY


Bubbles, you're nutz.

A phrf certificate is around $35.
Most regatta entry fees are under $100.
Making it real easy here, come back with a flag, any flag, we'll even settle
for evidence that you CREWED on a boat that took ANY flag.

John




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