So Doug...do you think you could handle a Moth?
Think it's easier than a wind surfer?
Have you seen one underway?
Have you watched any of the videos?

OZ how much is 16,000 AUD?

Joe

Joe wrote:
So Doug...do you think you could handle a Moth?

Not without a heck of a lot of practice

Think it's easier than a wind surfer?

No, I think it's probably a bit harder

Have you seen one underway?

The new foil-riders? No. The old unicycle ones? Yes.

Actually I have raced Moths but it was so long ago that the
hot boats were designed like scows.


Have you watched any of the videos?


Yes... very cool! Did you see the speed record for them is
26 knots?

OZ how much is 16,000 AUD?


About $43

Actually it would be $12,200, Aussie money has been going
strong lately. Shipping one from up there would be a bitch
though. There are a bunch of new Moths in the UK... ask
Donal to send you one.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

DSK wrote:
Joe wrote:
So Doug...do you think you could handle a Moth?

Not without a heck of a lot of practice

Think it's easier than a wind surfer?

No, I think it's probably a bit harder

Wind surfing's a bitch, I think it looks easier myself.

Have you seen one underway?

The new foil-riders? No. The old unicycle ones? Yes.

Actually I have raced Moths but it was so long ago that the
hot boats were designed like scows.


Have you watched any of the videos?


Yes... very cool! Did you see the speed record for them is
26 knots?

26.4 knots and smooth as glass and quiet!...I see lots of splicing on
the videos, I wonder how much film they needed to get the film they did
post.

OZ how much is 16,000 AUD?


About $43

Thats what I was thinking..

Actually it would be $12,200, Aussie money has been going
strong lately. Shipping one from up there would be a bitch
though. There are a bunch of new Moths in the UK... ask
Donal to send you one.

ohhh

I could get one buildt here for less, maybe buy the foils.
Still an expensive toy. But long runs across the bays and lakes here
would be way too much fun and addictive.

Joe

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

Think it's easier than a wind surfer?

No, I think it's probably a bit harder


Joe wrote:
Wind surfing's a bitch, I think it looks easier myself.


Shucks, I can windsurf fairly well. I would need to practice
again before being able to sail a sinker, but it didn't take
all that much time or effort to learn the first time. The
knees are a bit creakier nowadays, though.


Joe wrote:
26.4 knots and smooth as glass and quiet!...

No trap either. I think these boats are likely to be faster
than the one-man skiff types.



I could get one buildt here for less, maybe buy the foils.
Still an expensive toy.

Yeah, the foils are a big chunk of the cost. The trick is to
get the foil control system adjusted right and strong enough
to withstand a bit of chop.

One reason these things are so fast is that the T-foil is a
lot more efficient than a U-shaped one... the old foilers
had W-shaped foils for stability. A huge amount of drag was
caused by the foil piercing the surface. The tri-foiler
works the same way only not quite as efficiently.

But long runs across the bays and lakes here
would be way too much fun and addictive.


Popping up and down on the foils while swooping around an
anchorage would be fun too... did you see the video of two
chasing each other in figure eights?

I personally would enjoy the looks on the faces of people in
catamarans as you went slicing past them... but then I
already did that on the Johnson 18... these boats would do
it a lot more often though.

Fresh Breezes- Doug King

DSK wrote:
Think it's easier than a wind surfer?

No, I think it's probably a bit harder


Joe wrote:
Wind surfing's a bitch, I think it looks easier myself.


Shucks, I can windsurf fairly well. I would need to practice
again before being able to sail a sinker, but it didn't take
all that much time or effort to learn the first time. The
knees are a bit creakier nowadays, though.

I can windsurf too, but I hate the starts, and my back's a bit creekier
as well


Joe wrote:
26.4 knots and smooth as glass and quiet!...

No trap either. I think these boats are likely to be faster
than the one-man skiff types.



I could get one buildt here for less, maybe buy the foils.
Still an expensive toy.

Yeah, the foils are a big chunk of the cost. The trick is to
get the foil control system adjusted right and strong enough
to withstand a bit of chop.

Seems like many of the home builders are using lots of bicycle tech.
Lot's of blogs with all the specs on the foils ect...seems the class
members seem happy to share information. A wand control on the forward
foil and the hand twish tiller on the stern seems the way to go


One reason these things are so fast is that the T-foil is a
lot more efficient than a U-shaped one... the old foilers
had W-shaped foils for stability. A huge amount of drag was
caused by the foil piercing the surface. The tri-foiler
works the same way only not quite as efficiently.

But long runs across the bays and lakes here
would be way too much fun and addictive.


Popping up and down on the foils while swooping around an
anchorage would be fun too... did you see the video of two
chasing each other in figure eights?

Yelp.

I personally would enjoy the looks on the faces of people in
catamarans as you went slicing past them... but then I
already did that on the Johnson 18... these boats would do
it a lot more often though.

I would love flying above the water silently, I took a test ride on a
rave a few years ago, on a slow wind day, lot more stable but no where
as fast or responsive, seeing the moth tack over and over again on
foil was pretty impressive.

Joe

Fresh Breezes- Doug King